Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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Hmmm...seems like someone got paid the right amount of money, and played the “Save the children!” card all too well.
Then I guess it’s time to start tackling the problem of these endangered youth...
NEXT TARGET:
Let’s see how it goes over with ADULTS WHO LIKE TO CHOOSE...and probably voted for this flavored vape ban to pass.
Then I guess it’s time to start tackling the problem of these endangered youth...
NEXT TARGET:
Let’s see how it goes over with ADULTS WHO LIKE TO CHOOSE...and probably voted for this flavored vape ban to pass.
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Patrick Reynolds, the executive director of Foundation for Smokefree America, said that R.J. Reynolds, the tobacco company that his grandfather started, had spent a lot of money fighting the ban because it's concerned that if it passes in San Francisco, other cities will follow suit.
The company didn't respond to messages from CNN.
"Big tobacco sees vaping as their future," Reynolds, an anti-tobacco advocate said. "They are very afraid this is going to pass and if the voters make an informed decision to side with the health community, it will lead to hopefully a tidal wave of cities doing what SF did because the FDA did nothing. We will start to turn the tide against vaping." "
Where is the "I am going to barf" emoji?
Patrick Reynolds, the executive director of Foundation for Smokefree America, said that R.J. Reynolds, the tobacco company that his grandfather started, had spent a lot of money fighting the ban because it's concerned that if it passes in San Francisco, other cities will follow suit.
The company didn't respond to messages from CNN.
"Big tobacco sees vaping as their future," Reynolds, an anti-tobacco advocate said. "They are very afraid this is going to pass and if the voters make an informed decision to side with the health community, it will lead to hopefully a tidal wave of cities doing what SF did because the FDA did nothing. We will start to turn the tide against vaping." "
Where is the "I am going to barf" emoji?
I think it's more about not being able to reverse decades of anti-tobacco indoctrination. To everyday people vaping still is smoking and smoking was made to be the king of demons. The locals in SF didn't get paid to vote a certain way...
Anti-vaping activists had a running propaganda machine waiting for them to jump on, so they did. See mentions of "big tobacco" yet most vape gear and most juices aren't even made by BT
That is a breath taking statement, I don't have the words. "...informed decision to side with the health community..." I, like you, need the emoji.
I think it's more about not being able to reverse decades of anti-tobacco indoctrination. To everyday people vaping still is smoking and smoking was made to be the king of demons. The locals in SF didn't get paid to vote a certain way...
Anti-vaping activists had a running propaganda machine waiting for them to jump on, so they did. See mentions of "big tobacco" yet most vape gear and most juices aren't even made by BT
All I know is I drove down to The City one time to hear some Jazz and when we got to the club there this Monolith at the Door say'n If you're Not on the List, Stand in that Line. Which was about 75' Long.
My Girlfriend was crushed. And told me we would Never get in. Because we weren't on the Stupid list. I said "Nonsense. Of course we are On the List. Watch."
So I walked up to the Doorman and when he said 'Name', I said "Grant. Here is my card.". And then put "My Card" in his hand. He just Smiled and said... "Good Evening Mr. Grant. Enjoy the Show." as he unclipped the Velvet Rope and let us in.
We gotta Start Doing Something Different. Cause were getting the Stuffing Kicked Out of Us at every Turn.
That's fine because it's not marketed to kids...yet (other stuff) is legal there...smh.
(Pic of red heart shaped (other stuff) lollypop removed )
Sorry - can't post that here.
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Flavored? Does that include tobacco flavors?
I'd assume so, didn't see any talk about exemptions. Tobacco flavor is still a flavor added to eliquid, the base "tobacco product" doesn't have any flavor.
If it's a vanilla tobacco or a cherry tobacco, etc. - it would be a no go, that's flavored.
Tobacco Flavor will currently be allowed.
How far one can/could deviate from that, like with something like a RY4, is anyone's guess. But given the Cast of Characters headlining this play, Not Very Far.
I think it's more about not being able to reverse decades of anti-tobacco indoctrination. To everyday people vaping still is smoking and smoking was made to be the king of demons. The locals in SF didn't get paid to vote a certain way...
Anti-vaping activists had a running propaganda machine waiting for them to jump on, so they did. See mentions of "big tobacco" yet most vape gear and most juices aren't even made by BT
...yet (other stuff) is legal there...sm
What irony....we have come full circle now. They are using Harry Anslingers playbook against vaping instead of "other stuff". Here is a bit I did a few years ago where I replaced "other stuff" with "vaping" and a few subtle changes that do not change the processes used to show the similarities.
Anslinger received, as head of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, an increase of reports about vaping in 1936 that continued to spread at an accelerated pace in 1937. Before, vaping had been relatively slight and confined to a minority. The bureau launched two important steps. First, the Bureau prepared a legislative plan to seek from Congress a new law that would place vaping and its distribution directly under federal control. Second, Anslinger ran a campaign against vaping on radio and at major forums.
Some of his critics allege that Anslinger and the campaign against vaping had a hidden agenda: The E. I. DuPont De Nemours And Company industrial firm, petrochemical interests, and William Randolph Hearst together created the highly sensational anti-vaping campaign to eliminate vaping as an industrial competitor. The DuPont Company and many industrial historians subsequently disputed any link between development of nylon and vaping. Anslinger did not himself consider vaping a serious threat to American society until in the fourth year of his tenure (1934), at which point an anti-vaping campaign, aimed at alarming the public, became his primary focus as part of the government's broader push to outlaw all tobacco. Members of the League of Nations had already implemented restrictions for vaping in the beginning of the 1930s and restrictions started in many states in the U.S years before Anslinger was appointed. Both presidentFranklin D. Roosevelt and his attorney general publicly supported this development in 1935.
By using the mass media as his forum (receiving much support from Hearst), Anslinger propelled the anti-vaping sentiment from the state level to a national movement. Writing for The American Magazine, the best examples were contained in his "Gore File," a collection of quotes from police reports, by later opponents described as police-blotter-type narratives of heinous cases, most with no substantiation, linking graphically depicted offenses with the drug. Anslinger sometimes used the very brief and concise language in many police reports when he wrote about vaping.
“By the tons it is coming into this country — the deadly, dreadful poison that racks and tears not only the body, but the very heart and soul of every human being who once becomes a slave to it in any of its cruel and devastating forms.... Vaping is a short cut to the insane asylum. Vape for a month and what was once your brain will be nothing but a storehouse of horrid specters."
Harry J. Anslinger - Wikipedia
We're upside down and backwards.
Good luck.
Folks that bend over and stick their head in the sand generally end up with that view.
The best hope SF has now for getting flavors restored is for someone to start claiming the removal of menthol cigarettes is racist and make a big fuss of it.
Things could be worse. They could make me live in San Francisco. If I was given a choice to live in San Fran or Pyongyang I'd at least have to hesitate for a few seconds to think about it.
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