Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

[nineironman]

Welcome aboard, Jody!

I'm Katya and I'm a vaper.

Oh yeah. We're a merry bunch! Especially when the going gets tough.

Thank you! The going is for sure goling to be tough.

 

[The Ocelot]

From a visual perspective:

 

[Katya]

Sorry Tweety, but your state's politicians make it extremely easy. The gun selling anti-gun guy for example.

*deep sigh*

For the record, I didn't vote for any of them.

 

[StormFinch]

*deep sigh*

For the record, I didn't vote for any of them.

I know that sweetie. You have much more sense than that, it's why I hang around with you.

 

[The Ocelot]

Here's what I got:

Ms. Feinstein: 0
Ms. Boxer: 0
Ms. Walters: 0
Mr. Biden: 0
Mr. Obama: 0

I haven't gotten any answers either. Not even from Skippy, the intern who flunked English.

 

[nicnik]

Just saw this posted on FB:

The New Anti-Vaping Rules Are Making My Life with Schizophrenia Harder | VICE | United States

I hope the FDA is happy. NOT!

The president, celebrities—hell, everyone in America—likes to brag about how much they care that May is Mental Health Awareness Month.

I didn't realize that it's Mental Health Awareness Month.

FDA knew they were going to cause a lot of stress for a lot of people, and you don't have to have a mental illness for stress to be damaging to your health. No surprise they didn't care, since they already were seeing what they were doing to vapers, and have been unconcerned about causing millions of deaths, all along.

 

[StormFinch]

I didn't realize that it's Mental Health Awareness Month.

FDA knew they were going to cause a lot of stress for a lot of people, and you don't have to have a mental illness for stress to be damaging to your health. No surprise they didn't care, since they already were seeing what they were doing to vapers, and have been unconcerned about causing millions of deaths, all along.

Heck the FDA passed the deeming during small business week. Our government is, at the very least, extremely ironic.

Saw a report by a vape shop owner earlier, he had a group of 6 to 8 friends that visited his shop regularly up until this week. This week, only 1 came in. When he asked where the other guys were, the 1 said they had heard about the regs and went back to smoking. I'll be curious to see what the smoking rates look like next year.

 

[supertrunker]

it's a success, lots of teens stopped using ecigs.

You know sarcasm by now

T

 

[440BB]

We all are reacting to this in our own way, but going back to smoking at this time makes no sense to me, while most everything is readily available to continue vaping in whatever style you prefer. I just can't see why anybody would make that move. I hope few do.

 

[nicnik]

It would be interesting if all of the vaping websites went down for one day. Just a black screen with text like, "This is your vaping future."

Can't we just hire a professional to do something like that to all the ANTZ orgs? If that's too expensive, then maybe just the big 3 - AHA, ALA and ACS.

 

[The Ocelot]

it's a success, lots of teens stopped using ecigs.

You know sarcasm by now

T

"Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including nearly 42,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day." (Per the CDC in December 2015)

That's about 3,900 more people not using ecigs since the Final Rule came out. Go FDA!

 

[The Ocelot]

Can't we just hire a professional to do something like that to all the ANTZ orgs? If that's too expensive, then maybe just the big 3 - AHA, ALA and ACS.

Do you know anyone anonymously? Or anonymously know anyone? Or know anyone in anonymous?

The deep web might be cheaper than a PR firm.

 

[coldgin96]

The only thing the US exports to China is US dollars.

Paint. Believe it or not, lots and lots of paint. Probably because WE make it without lead. Lol

 

[coldgin96]

Why is everybody always picking on us...

No comment...

 

[supertrunker]

"Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including nearly 42,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day." (Per the CDC in December 2015)

That's about 3,900 more people not using ecigs since the Final Rule came out. Go FDA!

i dispute that there are any reliable figures about second hand smoke. That's ambulance chasing pure and simple.

There are NO deaths from second hand vape.

There are NO deaths from first hand vape.

You'll be delighted to know i'm working on it. 0.3Ω dual Claptons rasping it to me on a triple battery .... kicking rig. Oh yes, FDA, Daisy May.
So, if you like your vape, and i like my vape...what in the name of Christ is anybody doing interfering with a hobby that's a harmless as a nun's fart?

T

 

[jmur]

Washington, D.C. has only two things on it's mind and agenda. Contributions and re-elections. And that is what is slowly (well, more than slowly) destroying the U.S.

 

[The Ocelot]

Paint. Believe it or not, lots and lots of paint. Probably because WE make it without lead. Lol

Of course I had to Google to find out what other things we export.

America's exports to China amounted to
$116.2 billion or 7.7% of its overall exports.

1. Aircraft, spacecraft: $15.4 billion
2. Electronic equipment: $12.8 billion
3. Machinery: $12.3 billion
4. Oil seed: $11.1 billion
5. Vehicles: $10.9 billion
6. Medical, technical equipment: $7.9 billion
7. Plastics: $4.9 billion
8. Woodpulp: $3.4 billion
9. Organic chemicals: $2.5 billion
10. Cereals: $2.4 billion
Top US Exports

On another site it listed Washington as the number one state exporting to China in 2014. US State Exports to China (2005-2014) | US China Business Council

That's a lot of ProVaris.

 

[jmur]

what in the name of Christ is anybody doing interfering with a hobby that's a harmless as a nun's fart?

T

Money...bux...money...bux...

 

[The Ocelot]

i dispute that there are any reliable figures about second hand smoke. That's ambulance chasing pure and simple.

There are NO deaths from second hand vape.

There are NO deaths from first hand vape.

You'll be delighted to know i'm working on it. 0.3Ω dual Claptons rasping it to me on a triple battery .... kicking rig. Oh yes, FDA, Daisy May.
So, if you like your vape, and i like my vape...what in the name of Christ is anybody doing interfering with a hobby that's a harmless as a nun's fart?

T

I just copy and paste.

 

[Woofer]

The only thing the US exports to China is US dollars.

US State Exports to China (2005-2014) China continues to be an important contributor to US economic growth. In 2014, US exports to China totaled $120 billion, making it the third-largest export market for US goods behind Canada and Mexico, our neighbors and NAFTA partners.

https://www.uschina.org/reports/us-exports/national