Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

[Yiana]

I was wondering because I haven't been verified yet, how is all this going to affect the classified area here? Will it be changed or is it going to be okay until December 8th?

 

[Vandal]

I think both are correct. By handing the whole mess over to BT means it will be far easier to tax sales. No need to debate how much money for how many mls, no need to inspect thousands of businesses to assure safe and proper preparation of juice. Everything centralized with only a few manufacturers to monitor compliance, and easy collection of tax revenue without licensing thousands of vape stores to make sure the Departments of Revenue know who to collect the money from. The gas stations and 7 11's are already set up for it, so no big hit on their business. If anything, improving it with increased cigalike sales. The positions are really complimentary.

This is such a grim vision of our future. I feel like I am walking from a world that's in full color to a world of grays, like in the movies when they want to emphasize bleakness.

I don't have to order anything just yet but do you know if any of these sites are requiring a driver's license as opposed to a state ID? You wouldn't think it would matter if you have to go through the same process to get either but recently for the first time I was told my state ID didn't count for a process that a license would. I really don't get it because I had to go through the same exact verification but whatever.

I live in VA now but still have my CA DL. I don't drive anymore and have had no use yet for a new ID. If I have to get one, it would be a state issued ID, not a DL. I wonder if this leaves me out in the cold?

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

This is such a grim vision of our future. I feel like I am walking from a world that's in full color to a world of grays, like in the movies when they want to emphasize bleakness.


I live in VA now but still have my CA DL. I don't drive anymore and have had no use yet for a new ID. If I have to get one, it would be a state issued ID, not a DL. I wonder if this leaves me out in the cold?

I was wondering almost the same thing. In my case, being what is referred to as a 'snow bird', living in 2 different states throughout certain seasons of the year. If I wanted something shipped to FL but my license is legally WV, then would any order be refused because my license would not match the address I wanted the package shipped to?

 

[Yiana]

I was wondering almost the same thing. In my case, being what is referred to as a 'snow bird', living in 2 different states throughout certain seasons of the year. If I wanted something shipped to FL but my license is legally WV, then would any order be refused because my license would not match the address I wanted the package shipped to?

I was wondering the same thing. I haven't switched my license since I moved to this state last year, even though I know I should. Also, my mother in law goes to Florida for the winter and she also vapes.

 

[leftyandsparky]

I was wondering almost the same thing. In my case, being what is referred to as a 'snow bird', living in 2 different states throughout certain seasons of the year. If I wanted something shipped to FL but my license is legally WV, then would any order be refused because my license would not match the address I wanted the package shipped to?

I miss all my snowbirds in Ocala!

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I miss all my snowbirds in Ocala!

Heck, it is just as hot up north as it is in FL. Maybe hotter. LOL
I am about an hour away from Ocala. Pass through there every time I go north or south. LOL

 

[leftyandsparky]

Heck, it is just as hot up north as it is in FL. Maybe hotter. LOL
I am about an hour away from Ocala. Pass through there every time I go north or south. LOL

We just moved from there about a yr ago. We made Ocala our home for 8 yrs. My 12 yr.is still "homesick" for Florida

 

[SLM]

Hummm... Interesting about the license vs. shipping but IMO, it shouldn't make any difference. I think that's only to verify age. I did it on a couple sites and had stuff shipped to another address. That seems to be more credit card related.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Hummm... Interesting about the license vs. shipping but IMO, it shouldn't make any difference. I think that's only to verify age. I did it on a couple sites and had stuff shipped to another address. That seems to be more credit card related.

You are right, it shouldn't but I have been on sites that said, if your cc addr doesn't match the addr you want the package sent to and isn't identical, then they will cancel the sale. So I can get around this by adding another shipping addr to my saved ones(I think).

 

[bigdancehawk]

You could definitely get a job writing crap for them.

Ha! It wouldn't be the first time I got paid for writing crap.

 

[eww245]

abc news keeps running a piece about the FDA Regulations. Saying that the new rules go into effect today 8-9 and mention no sales to minors and that new e-cigarettes cannot be brought to market without prior approval. They got some if it right but not sure why they think 8-9 and not 8-8, and they don't mention about the cost to keep products on the market.

I don't use Twitter but someone should give them some more info @abcWNN. All they need to do is say a few more words and it could change everything. That is if the public finds out the truth.​

 

[Eskie]

abc news keeps running a piece about the FDA Regulations. Saying that the new rules go into effect today 8-9 and mention no sales to minors and that new e-cigarettes cannot be brought to market without prior approval. They got some if it right but not sure why they think 8-9 and not 8-8, and they don't mention about the cost to keep products on the market.​

Because the 30 to 60 seconds required to add that to the piece would take precious seconds away from the Kardashian story to follow, and that could hurt ratings. Stories these days are considered newsworthy only if they boost viewers/readership.

 

[leftyandsparky]

You are right, it shouldn't but I have been on sites that said, if your cc addr doesn't match the addr you want the package sent to and isn't identical, then they will cancel the sale. So I can get around this by adding another shipping addr to my saved ones(I think).

2 order were decline before 8-8 for me because my debt card addy did not match shipping,so I had to use cc.

 

[SeniorBoy]

I'm not sure if this has been posted in this thread so please humor me:

"This is the theme of the amici curiae brief sixteen of us have just filed in the Nicopure Labs et al versus FDA legal case..."

A must read for those of us who enjoy diving down into the weeds

The full Clive Bates Blog post

 

[redrebel821]

I was wondering almost the same thing. In my case, being what is referred to as a 'snow bird', living in 2 different states throughout certain seasons of the year. If I wanted something shipped to FL but my license is legally WV, then would any order be refused because my license would not match the address I wanted the package shipped to?

I have a license from another state... And haven't had problems...yet

 

[Icemanxxxv]

2 more liter of 100mg nic select on the way boosting my stock to 6.5 liters. I'm set. For the long haul.

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[Wing]

2 more liter of 100mg nic select on the way boosting my stock to 6.5 liters. I'm set. For the long haul.

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6.5L ?! Damn... by my calculations, that would last me over 20 years using .9ml of nic a day.

 

[Rossum]

6.5L ?! Damn... by my calculations, that would last me over 20 years using .9ml of nic a day.

What's your remaining life expectancy?

 

[Lessifer]

I have a question, if anyone has any thoughts. So, starting yesterday there are different rules for what retailers and manufacturers can do. A manufacturer can put together items that come in a kit, a retailer cannot. However, businesses don't have to register as a retailer or a manufacturer until December. So... who knows if a store is a retailer or a manufacturer between now and December?

 

[redrebel821]

I have a question, if anyone has any thoughts. So, starting yesterday there are different rules for what retailers and manufacturers can do. A manufacturer can put together items that come in a kit, a retailer cannot. However, businesses don't have to register as a retailer or a manufacturer until December. So... who knows if a store is a retailer or a manufacturer between now and December?

Following along on Not Blowing Smokes FB page...seems like most of the shops are following the retailer rules now