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Amount of nic needed for satisfaction (relief of cravings) is a strange one indeed. I always raise an eye brow when folks are asking for advice and are immediately asked how much they smoked.

Here's why. I was a heavy smoker. Thirty fags a day when smoking tailor made's and 50g rolling tobacco lasted me three days, yet 18mg nic was plenty when I started vaping and was soon reduced to 12mg. Nic patches recommend 21mg patches to start, based on my smoking habits but they blew my brains out, as did 14 mg patches. I could only use 7mg patches and they were enough, although there was a step down for a few days.

From that I conclude the amount of nic needed to quit isn't so simple to establish, based on a smokers cigarette consumption.
I was "only" a pack a day smoker, maybe 1 1/2 per day at most. Not really what was considered a "heavy smoker". But I direct inhaled my cigarettes. I could inhale a cig in under 3 minutes when other smokers took 7 minutes or more.

When I first began vaping I started with 32mg nic. I had coughing fits trying to vape that MTL (only option in gear available at that time was MTL cartomizers). Was advised to drop the nic to 18mg and the coughing fits immediately improved.
 
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I was "only" a pack a day smoker, maybe 1 1/2 per day. Not really what was considered a "heavy smoker". But I direct inhaled my cigarettes. I could inhale a cig in under 3 minutes when other smokers took 7 minutes or more.
It takes what it takes to keep the nico-demon at bay. I inhaled big fat cigars, 12mgl would not have got me through quitting.
 

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Not a word about the actual cause of recent lung problems. Just the usual blame vaping approach. Mention the lung incidents, then seamlessly fold it into the dangers of vaping. And a new text based system to help the kids quit, Text To Quit. For some reason Indiana pols always had a big grudge against vaping.

Indiana launches youth-oriented anti-vaping campaign
 

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    I was at about 1-1/2 packs a day. It took 32mg liquid, Swedish snus, and nasal snuff to get me to where I didn’t want to smoke. Many times it was at least two of the three at the same time. I’m in a much better place now. I’m down to 12mg liquid but still use snus.
     

    zoiDman

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    ... For some reason Indiana pols always had a big grudge against vaping.

    Could it be that People of Indiana Stood Up and Exposed Indiana Lawmakers Monopolistic Legislative Scam to Only Let their Cronies sell e-Liquids inside of Indiana?

    And to Restrict Indiana Residents from buying Out-of-State e-Liquids unless Out-of-State Retailers complied with Un-Compliable Indiana Security Regulations? (Which BTW, the Indiana Security Company charged with Upholding the Regulations had Direct Financial Ties to the Legislation Author.)

    And then they got a Legal Smack Down in Federal Court over it? With the Indiana Attorney General looking more like a Mafia Crime Boss then the Highest Judiciary Officer in the State. And Multiple Indiana Legislators coming under a Federal Probe

    Think that might have had Something to do with it?
     
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    I was "only" a pack a day smoker, maybe 1 1/2 per day at most. Not really what was considered a "heavy smoker". But I direct inhaled my cigarettes. I could inhale a cig in under 3 minutes when other smokers took 7 minutes or more.

    When I first began vaping I started with 32mg nic. I had coughing fits trying to vape that MTL (only option in gear available at that time was MTL cartomizers). Was advised to drop the nic to 18mg and the coughing fits immediately improved.

    Ah! I have found a kindred spirit. I used to smoke filterless French & Russian cigs like that. Mentioned several times on ECF that I used to DTL cigs.. I was not believed 8)

    Spent weeks trying to find a French tobacco flavour liquid, yuk .. nearly put me off vaping completely. All better now.
     

    DPLongo22

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    It's pretty clear to me, after catching up on what the CDC/FDA are saying about the recent spate of severe lung complaints, that everyone on this board expired long ago and is posting from beyond the veil.

    This explains a lot.

    Well, in my case, I mean. :blink:
     

    stols001

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    Well we all come from beyond the veil and like, then if we are really UNLUCKY like, you get to pierce it and all that. Heh. Maybe the nicotine helps. My mom is all balanced and stuff and she said spiritually, she sometimes was envious of my supernatural powers. I was like, "Mom, those only happen when you are like, near death, psychotically."

    She has been a lot less vocal about that like, since her first episode of disorientation, being outside of time, and like having retrograde amnesia and whatnot. I think she gets it better now because I was like, "See if you had continued like, doing that for oh say another 3 days and then like not eating or sleeping just kind of wandering around I bet you could have had like, a near death experience (which I am proud to say I had like, my first manic episode when I walked so far after oh 6 untreated weeks my feet were bleeding and even the homeless were like not talking to me they were like, "This chick is NUTS."

    The life review was unpleasant. I discovered I was not a very nice person. I try....

    But if ecigs are gonna put me beyond the VEIL like IDK. I'm kind of DONE WITH THAT.

    Anna
     
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