Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

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I believe the answer to that is, since THC is federally illegal no federal agency can regulate it. I guess it all makes sense in somebody's head. Don't know about cbd.
If I'm not mistaken, in the states where it is "legal", some group is regulating it for the dispensaries.
 

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The crowd at the Vape Rally in Washington DC looks huge, possibly in the thousands. Some cool pics from the rally.

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Grogan said, since it has “no redeeming qualities.” Grogan clarified that the remarks reflected his personal views, not formal administration stances.

LOL Grogan you have no IDEA how many times going and smoking a cigarette like, made me cool off and literally NOT kill someone. My mother in law should BOW down before the Goddess Tobacco, who has let her live on so many occasions.

You know, almost ALL things have SOME redeeming value, I think that's an awfully pernicious stance.

I'd also like to freaking.... point out how EASY it is to adulterate a bottle of alcohol should one want to do so. This is of use, to a teen, who is slowly but steadily watering down their parents cabinet (except for the Drambuie, not THAT, OMG that stuff still makes me want to hurl) and also in more high profile cases (at times) roofie-ing some collegiate chick at a frat party and we have yet to o come up with TAMPER proof alcohol bottles but for the most part no one cares (unless you overdo it with the watering of the parental bottles, THEY might care.

Sheesh, my son claimed he had been roofied so many times, I would up/ the WHOLE world must want to have sex with him, and offered the administration of some scar, by me. But, I was mostly kidding. Plus, as far as the 16 hits of acid, NO one wastes that much acid on roofieing I mean one or two hits would totally do the trick.

I don't see where like child locking and stuff.... I mean, it's really NOT complicated and even the optional ones like on some Asmodus mods, no, I am not going to enter a dang pin every time I pick you up.

I don't; see anywhere like where there has to be some sort of security features in vapes, but maybe I'm just dense. That's quite likely I'm suffering from EXTREMiIS of ILLNESS I so nee to pay attention to when I get sick and like, pay attention.

I also, if there is a child or pet present, especially the kid's dog, move my vapes to a secure location I mean she's the type of beast who like, would lick ejuice off the floor.

I will say like anything, this is the adult's job to DISCOVER and them OBSCURE as far as bad things for kids.

I will also note I drank toilet cleaner (blue) when my mom's back was turned. I have always like cobalt I guess I wanted to know that it tasted like, but apart from some mild chemical burning of the mouth, eth.

I also called poison control when my kid got his hands on *a* Advil my stepfather dropped. I was fairly certain it would not harm him, but it was nice to be sure. Poison control are awesome,

Call 1-800-222-1222 or Get Help Online

Seriously they're awesome. I just wish they had one for pets. Adult vapers you should keep this number around Just In Case.

Anna
 

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CBD is unregulated in most states, to the best of my knowledge. It's kind of like, IDK "The supplement industry,"

No one's dying to make a fatal version to sell on the streets, because it doesn't get you high or anything. However, much like supplements, there is no one really preventing you from like, making some really "crap" version of CBD "whatever."

So knowing your brands and having one that doesn't suck (and is probably going to be on the more expensive version of the spectrum) is probably wise.

Sure, there are a lot of dumb folks buying "supplement X" from Walmart. When I decided to go the probiotics route to fix my gut issues, I got something horrifyingly expensive, that had actual, posted studies that you could read and etc. I really hate buying it every month but it has been SO worth it.

If you want the most "Studied" probiotic on the shelf, to my knowledge that would be Curelle, and well, it's not terrible for some things.

No-one regulates this stuff you have to go by what few studies you can find and user experiences, unfortunately. Caveat Emptor but dude, if I am going to pay for *a* probiotic or *some* CBD, I am going to pay for the stuff that you know works .Usually.

Anna
 

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Wait, sex is a vice???

Ummm......okay, you're probably right. My kids have caused me quite a bit of trouble over the years.

Only in a commercial environment is it a vice. It's lawful to provide it willingly for free (18 or over). :)

Agreed. The DEA doesn't regulate anything.

Yep, their job is to confiscate it and press charges for importing, possession, and sale.
 
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As long as we are being All Technical about Who does What.

Bringing Charges would be the Role of the Justice Department.

;)

Agree. The DEA finds it, arrests the offenders, and turns over the culprits for prosecution.
 

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Agree. The DEA finds it, arrests the offenders, and turns over the culprits for prosecution.

They also license/register all those who can prescribe or dispense all controlled drugs on their classification list. And supposedly keep track of everyone. Supposedly.
 

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I vape a commercial e-liquid called Cinna-roll by Cream Team. Setup is an original Uwell Crown tank on a JAC Vapour series B DNA75W.

That's why I didn't recognize it. Nice setup!
I don't believe the DEA is regulating dispensary (legal) THC or CBD.

My comment about the DEA regulating cannabis was an attempt at a joke--it cleary failed. :facepalm:

Anyway, here, in CA, the regulating agency is the Bureau of Cannabis Control.
 

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Woahhhh I had a really hard time entering my date of birth on that site. Here's hoping I can get my abx and steroids from CVS without incident. I am going to call ahead and beg them to go grab me some Theraflu (that CVS is like crazy helpful it's the nicest CVS I have ever been to actually) so I don't have to change out of my bathrobe and stained shirt from last night's dinner.

Oh well if they can't I suppose like, a bath wouldn't exactly HURT.

Dood. I forgot what this felt like. Telemedicine doc (he was FINE actually) was like, "Oh don't bother trying to tell me if it's pneumonia or bronchitis, maybe it was bronchitis a week ago but I can hear you wheezing.)

Oh yeah, I don't see how the links remotely contradict what I've said about CBD, I said quality probably totally varies. Apart from my lungs, currently, I have a very low level of overall inflammation in my body as it so happens, some doc weirdo (he was the weirdest doc in my practice) did an RA test on me and informed me I would not get it until my 90's. That's yoga for you. OMG. I asked if it would be acceptable if "I died younger" but this doctor was like super deaf. He was like, "What?" and so I was like, "GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

But, as long as it's not hurting you I am like, the biggest fan of placebo. I harness it whenever I can. If I were ever in a drug study I'd want to be in the placebo group, honestly.

But yes, lying is bad.

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Only in a commercial environment is it a vice. It's lawful to provide it willingly for free (18 or over). :)
Although there may be some overlap between things that are not lawful and things that might be considered "vices", we should not conflate the two concepts. E.g. most everyone would consider smoking a vice, yet it is legal.
 

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i just looked up fentenyl.
it's supposed to be super strong.
if that's so, why would you need a vape for a delivery system?
vaping can't compete with mainlining, can it?

does anyone know?
There was a story a while back where officers without gloves apparently touched something a vial or something I'm not sure, that had fentanyl residue on it it absorbed through their skin and they felt like they were going to die. For very severe chronic pain sufferers there's a thing called a fentanyl patch which is in a medium that allows a very precise absorption of fentanyl through the skin and the amount of fentanyl that is in one of those patches is microscopic because it is so powerful. There's many many ways to use Fentanyl. Its very expensive so I'm not entirely certain why anybody would want to vape it. You need to have a very controlled methodology of using it in a chronic pain setting and you know the exact titration of that. Basically I don't know why anybody would want to vape fentanyl you can literally use it any other way without as much of a concern of titration and absorption. I also couldn't imagine someone putting fentanyl in e-liquid like why....fentanyl is very expensive. Even pharmaceutical prices are ridiculous especially when it's end-of-life care. I used to do a lot of personal assistants type things for elderly people which is why I know about various pain medications and such and unfortunately as they tighten the regulations in the definition of who can have opiates and in this case I'm speaking about low dose opiates things like Lortab codeine I see more and more little old ladies going to a neighborhood across the way that's known for selling drugs at first I thought people were lost and had to stop them and assist them because I didn't want them heading into a bad area but it turns out that they knew full well where they were going and they were going to go Purchase Street ...... and Fentanyl because they could no longer get their Percocet and Lortab. I know that has nothing to do with the topic of vaping fentanyl but it's just really sad. People basically being banned from their much safer alternative and having to turn to completely unregulated markets... it seems to be a theme right now
 

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My mom is a little old lady that takes Codeine every morning for her Charon's disease. I hope she will be able to get it, and if not I hope she calls me for some "safe illegal use" drug pointers.

It should be like Medicaid, the opiates. If it geos away for everyone else, the people currently on prescriptions should be like, allowed to have them.

I had always hated the (Native tribal director doc) at my Tribe's health cener, but he took one of my patients off some UNGODLY high amount of morphine because he was being flagged without a taper.

Seriously I was so mad when I heard about it I arranged for her to go see MY doc who also saw Medicare patients. He started doing crud like making her check her insulin and stuff. IDK how he did it, but he did it.

Anna
 

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