If I had a restaurant or family establishment I would do the same thing. I wouldn't want my employees wasting time dealing with angry customers who are complaining that someone is smoking (even though they are vaping).
IHOP bans indoor vaping
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Ok time to weight in. To the poster that said you kids can't be banned from a restaurant. Yes they can. It made the news a few weeks back. High end restaurants prohibit children under a certain age after a certain time. A business can prohibit you from using items in their business. Places ban cell phones and cameras and my APV is a device. The preforming art centers prohibits both of these. It is just vapor we creat but that vapor does have things in it. If you are using juice with nicotine and flavoring then that's in the vapor. If you exhale the vapor it still contains these items. Information on nicotine absorption by our bodies supports that fact. If our bodies were that effiecnt at aborbing whatever we inhale then there never would of been a issue with secondhand smoke. Let give you an example of what happened with us. We were in a group of people and the wife asked if anyone aobjected to her vaping. She explained she uses no nic juice. One in the party said, "that's great as his health issues are aggrivated by nicotine". The next day when I saw him he said "the only thing I noticed after being around your wife's vaping was a driness of the skin on his face" He's not the type of person to know that using PG juice dehydrates you so I attribute his response was legitimate. Vaping is not a "right". It is something we choose to do. I am gratefull for switching to it as it has help me take control over my nicotine addiction. I now no longer rush through a meal to go out and smoke. Vaping has allowed me that.
I guess IHop will not be having Flambé Bananas with Rum on their menu anytime soon. 
Assumptions run amuck on this thread.
We do not know the story behind what caused this sign to be put up. The assumption is someone blew clouds of vapor and possibly got snarky with the staff.
It is also possible, if looked at from another angel, that people were told they could vape and a rabid anti jerk could have been the snarky idiot and complained to management. Management would rather just post no vaping so they don't have to deal with snarky ANTZ.
Unless the full story is disclosed, we can't tell WHAT behavior caused the sign going up on the door. The knee jerk reaction is placed on the ecigarette user doing something wrong.
Sad that we automatically assume the worst of ourselves among ourselves.
We do not know the story behind what caused this sign to be put up. The assumption is someone blew clouds of vapor and possibly got snarky with the staff.
It is also possible, if looked at from another angel, that people were told they could vape and a rabid anti jerk could have been the snarky idiot and complained to management. Management would rather just post no vaping so they don't have to deal with snarky ANTZ.
Unless the full story is disclosed, we can't tell WHAT behavior caused the sign going up on the door. The knee jerk reaction is placed on the ecigarette user doing something wrong.
Sad that we automatically assume the worst of ourselves among ourselves.
Only if its waffle juiceGreat. An incident that prompted a sign like this
Do you really need to vape while you're waiting for your pancakes??
What I get after reading all these posts is that every single person is totally self-centered!
Whether it be vapers who want to treat vaping like smoking, vapers who want to blow big clouds regardless of the environment they're in, the ANTZ who don't want anybody vaping or smoking, on and on and on.
The only solution is for everybody to kill themselves!
Whether it be vapers who want to treat vaping like smoking, vapers who want to blow big clouds regardless of the environment they're in, the ANTZ who don't want anybody vaping or smoking, on and on and on.
The only solution is for everybody to kill themselves!
oh, an amendment to the sign. " EXCEPT: waffle, bacon, maple flavors"
maybe we're screwing up the fung shui?
maybe we're screwing up the fung shui?
Too bad they didn't just ask "Vaping or non-vaping?"
Would have drummed up business instead of driving it away.
Would have drummed up business instead of driving it away.
I don't really vape anywhere smoking isn't allowed, aside from sneaking a vape at work, when no one is around.
Obviously this sign was put up so next time they get less argument out of the teenagers they want to kick out for vaping. To the OP, we are in this together, you should have taken the sign with you when you left. It was a cheap sign made for one incident and probably not even saved to a file so the manager would have to retype it if he felt like putting the energy into it again. But yeah, most of us have discretion when vaping indoors which is why I think it was a teenager or someone drunk who caused the incident. It is still a place of business and they can refuse service to anyone they want so long as it's not based on gender or race. They can always make up some other excuse actually to take the place of those anyhow.
Oh trust me, there is a lot to argue about, just wait and see.
We have a prophet amongst us!
Thank you for Injecting a little Sensibility into this Thread.
"Unless the full story is disclosed, we can't tell WHAT behavior caused the sign going up on the door. The knee jerk reaction is placed on the ecigarette user doing something wrong."
Really, I can see why any restaurant would ban vaping. It is pretty rude to those trying to enjoy their meals, especially if you're acting like a hurricane with fog building up in your booth.
Diners, coffee shops, and bars I can see going either way, as long as the establishment hasn't had any previous incident. Some people are just inconsiderate and ruin it for the rest of us...
Diners, coffee shops, and bars I can see going either way, as long as the establishment hasn't had any previous incident. Some people are just inconsiderate and ruin it for the rest of us...
It doesn't matter how safe it is, it's rude to vape where other people have to breathe it who don't want to. If you're at breakfast with your kid you really don't want to hear that it isn't going to harm you... you don't want it in your face. Frankly I think the nonchalant "up yours it's legal" attitude some people have will ultimately be exactly what makes it illegal where smoking isn't legal and honestly I don't mind that at all.
The moral of this story is to be respectful of other people and everything will be fine!
The moral of this story is to be respectful of other people and everything will be fine!
One thing I really dislike are hypocrites. When people used to argue that my smoking was harming their health, I usually responded, 'really...well then, when you stop using fossil fuels and plastics we'll discuss it. Until then, go get a glass bellybutton so you can see where you're going.'
Just a thought...define poison. Almost anything in excess can kill, so by definition water/oxygen/food can all be poisons. I'm careful about the words I use, people hear them and interpret them, but not always the way you meant them. I will not call caffeine/nicotine poison.
If a business doesn't want me to use my electronic vapor delivery device in their business I will follow theirs rules or leave. Usually I leave. When we yell "it's my right" about something that is our choice then expect rules and regulations to follow. Rights are only protected by rules and regulations. We are going to bring this on ourselves.
Being as I retired before there were e-cigs, I can only relate to smoking at my business. There are places where it's OK, and there are places where your ... would become your hat. It's really surprising how far a little bit of common sense can go.
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