Yeah, I hate Hypocrites to.
Like those people who tell me What I Can and Can't do with an e-Cigarette. It should be My Choice. Everyone should be Able to Choose.
Except Business Owners, they should Only Do what I want to Do.
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Yeah, I hate Hypocrites to.
Like those people who tell me What I Can and Can't do with an e-Cigarette. It should be My Choice. Everyone should be Able to Choose.
Except Business Owners, they should Only Do what I want to Do.
Oh, that Ihop is getting the word out about e-cigs, free advertising! I wonder how many smokers might see that and investigate what the heck electronic cigarettes are, free advertising!
If it were close to me, I would purchase some of these: CASAA E-cigarette Information Cards Then I would make a return visit to Ihop and ask if were okay to TAPE that to the door along with their note! At least give them some information, if they were receptive of that then my next visit would be to print more of the CASAA informational stuff and take that too!
If it were close to me, I would purchase some of these: CASAA E-cigarette Information Cards Then I would make a return visit to Ihop and ask if were okay to TAPE that to the door along with their note! At least give them some information, if they were receptive of that then my next visit would be to print more of the CASAA informational stuff and take that too!
I won't debate your point. But my statement was that people don't have the luxury of complaining about someone's kids (assuming they're reasonably well behaved) without looking like a big jerk. I stand by that statement.
I am currently vaping to help me quit or cut back smoking cigarettes. I could care less if i can't vape in a public restaurant or during grocery shopping...
Breastfeeding is more natural and a lot safer then vaping, but is still a controversial subject for public venues. So why is it so hard to understand why some businesses would refuse to tailor to the vaping hobby/addiction? That's all vaping is, a hobby for some, smoking cessation for others. Not a lifeline support.
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Breastfeeding is more natural and a lot safer then vaping, but is still a controversial subject for public venues. So why is it so hard to understand why some businesses would refuse to tailor to the vaping hobby/addiction? That's all vaping is, a hobby for some, smoking cessation for others. Not a lifeline support.
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I want to be able to walk into a restaurant and be asked if I want the kids crying, or the no kids crying section!
I personally don't enjoy people blowing clouds of any aromatic kind when I eat. Be it cigs or e-cigs.
I think there's a "dark" side to this. People flaunting their "right" to vape everywhere makes establishments put up signs about e-cigs being banned. Puts e-cigs in a bad light in the eyes of Average Joe. "If these things don't give off any bad stuff... why are they banned all over the place?"
Not helping our cause in any way.
I think there's a "dark" side to this. People flaunting their "right" to vape everywhere makes establishments put up signs about e-cigs being banned. Puts e-cigs in a bad light in the eyes of Average Joe. "If these things don't give off any bad stuff... why are they banned all over the place?"
Not helping our cause in any way.
Thats the first sighn I have seen anywhere banning E cigs. Wouldnt bother me I usually dont vape in restaraunts I do occasionally depending on the restaraunt I suppose. I dont understand why it would be a problem though if someone asked me to stop I would and I feel like that would be the end of itl.
I would have to disagree with your proclamation... we do not live in any golden age of vaping... At least not yet, if ever.
We live in the shadow a regulated era of tobacco smoking. There is no separation from it.
There's no amount of scientific evidence or level of education that is going to convince a significant portion of society that taking a cylindrical shaped object placing it in your mouth, inhaling and then exhaling a visible cloud of gaseous stuff... is an OK thing to do in many public spaces. Especially enclosed spaces like restaurants, theaters, work places, etc...
Society in general has spent the last 25 years eliminating this type of behavior from public places. How foolish can you be to think this new technological wonder called an e-cigarette... note the irony in the name... is going to reverse a cultural mindset that's become well entrenched??
Bullheaded thinking and attempting to vape wherever you darn well please... hurts the potential for this stuff to remain legal and more or less free to use. The more vapors rebel... the easier it is for general society to write this off and ban it... despite convincing evidence that it could be saving lives by getting folks off of analogs.
I believe a smarter approach is to ask for permission in public places and businesses. Never stealth vape nor just break it out because you can. Seize on any/every opportunity to educate smokers and non-smokers thorough responsible behavior. In simple terms... act civilized and you might end up being treated civilized...
I won't Vape anywhere I wouldn't smoke the more of these signs that go up the bigger the problem will be being pushed out from everywhere like smokers because of a few arrogant people who think because they can they should yes it's legal so what don't Vape where people eat or where common sense says it will be frowned upon we need people to see that we are a considerate group incidents like this that makes signs like that need to be printed tarnishes vapers everywhere and will ruin public opinion of ecigs and users something that we DON'T need
I'm all for letting establishments decide to allow or ban vaping, but it does seem...lazy I guess. I mean, if some numpty was being a bawbag about his vaping, turf him, end of. If some dude got aggro and tried to smash up a chair, would they ban men? If some kid threw a tantrum, would they ban kids? If some white person was loud about his racism, would they ban white folk? No, because it's all covered under the standard "we can boot you if you're a d**k" policy, same should go for vaping.
Sure, I wouldn't vape over a meal, and wouldn't like to eat in the midst of someone else's clouds, but I don't like trying to taste food over the fog of perfume/aftershave some folks douse themselves in, when is that getting banned?
Sure, I wouldn't vape over a meal, and wouldn't like to eat in the midst of someone else's clouds, but I don't like trying to taste food over the fog of perfume/aftershave some folks douse themselves in, when is that getting banned?
Oh trust me, there is a lot to argue about, just wait and see.
We have a prophet amongst us!
lol...I was thinking the same thing when I saw that post on page 2 and saw I had 7 more to go
What about the juices that have little or no smell? Would you be alright with those?
Since you are concerned only about odor, can we please ban perfume and BO in public places? I find those incredibly offensive.
Well, aren't you the good little obedient docile subservient. I get DC's point. Let's not vape where we wouldn't smoke so they won't ban us from vaping in non-smoking areas? Sheesh.
You're not helping vapers; you are empowering the very people who want to associate vaping with smoking and eradicate it totally.
I'm ashamed of what this country has become. It is now easier to give in to someone who makes a fuss than to protect individuals who are not harming anyone and are only complaining because it makes them "feel" uncomfortable.
There is a Problem with that line of Thinking.
And that is if you Tick Off enough Non-Smokers/Vapers, they tend to get All Up In Arms. And demand that their State Reps Do Something About It. And those State Reps go Overboard with Legislation.
Did you happen to Read CA SB648 by any chance?
If people where a Little More Respectful about Vaping in Non-Smoking Areas, Bills like CA SB648 would be not be brought forth.
zoiD, ya know I don't often disagree wid ya, but...
Da diff twix vapers and ANTZ:
vapers = avid and grateful with improved health
ANTZ = outright rabid
public = uneducated sheeple
Tossing da BS flag on dis 'un!!! <see above>
Nope. I gave up on CA being reasonable a long time ago. Same with People who Randomly Use caPs.
Maybe you should Broaden Your Horizons by Reading CA SB648.
Then you would have a Better Perspective of just what can Happen when the people who Outnumber you by More Than 10 to 1 get bent with people who can't go an a couple of hours without vaping.
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