Intro To The "3DFS ALPHA" By: Digitalciggz.com

[NCC]

Wow, great to see DC standing behind the EQ this way. But, only six hours since I pulled mine out of the mail box. I was only beginning to get familiar with it.

So glad to see the problem being addressed. And sorry to have to send the EQ back. Maybe four hours of light use hasn't gunked up #24's innards too much.

 

[cuseguy]

I am really sad about this. I would have left my money down for an extended rework. I actually expected a 2 month fix, but I wasn't gonna pull for that. I just wanted the cards on the table.


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[Friend of Atlas]

Well, since I'm sending my EQ back I may as well not wait any longer with my thoughts....

Some are objective, other are subjective; you can decide which are which.


Criticism:

• Shadow feed adapter o-ring was a little big and not fitting in my atty well. On the first atty I tried I had to use pliers to separate the pieces and therefore risked damaging the adapter (though I didn’t).
• When initially setting up unit and testing pump feeding I kept turning the unit off by accidentally depressing the EQ button. While this may be user error the interface would be better if was not so sensitive / large / location. Ergonomically it is awkward.
• Battery does not come out very well (I followed video instructions carefully when inserting). Seems to get a little stuck – I have to wiggle it to get it out. One user suggested a sleeve – may not be a bad idea.
• The 306 adapter is too loose on my atty AND the shadow feed adapter is too loose on the 306 adapter. They would fall off if not for the tube line holding it all together.
• I really think not being able to tip the unit for fear of pump damage is a severe design limitation. We all have accidents and may not mean to knock it over, but it’s going to happen and most likely more than once.
• Some may hate on me for this one; including Michael and Mario - I never liked the ‘Equalizer’ concept on the EQ and now I realize it’s not just cause I’m female (I was thinking the attraction to Equalizer’s was more of a guy thing). This dislike was conceptual at first, but now it’s just practical.

1. The circle is too big and easy to touch
2. The design of the Equalizer ring seems to have constrained the design of the overall PV. Meaning it feels like they selected the voltage range based on the design of the Equalizer (though I have no proof of this and may be speaking out of turn) and honestly I don’t love that the device’s lowest setting is 4V (though it's not the end all). I feel that they let the Equalizer ring concept limit them. (Again, just my opinion that this is what happened.)

Currently Neutral:

• Too heavy, but very durable – a loss and a win?
• The size – I don’t have a firm opinion about this – don’t necessarily like it, but I don’t dislike it either – it is what it is.

What I LOVE:

• LOVE the pump. It’s quieter than I expected after watching Michael’s video’s and it was simple to prime even with 65% VG liquid.
• LOVE the programmable feed. It was the 2nd thing I did after finding a suitable atty and it was simple and extremely effective at delivering the right amount of liquid.
• Fire feeding is easy. Since my liquid is higher on the VG scale I programmed the pump for 10 seconds (approx. 5 drops). With such a long pump time I can tap the feed button 3 times prior to firing the unit and then fire the unit while it’s still feeding. No holding multiple buttons down at the same time.
• The EQ vapes well when not resetting and the pump and programmable feed give it the edge above other VV devices

I thought the following suggestion by Retird was one of the best in the few short weeks we’ve had the device – "An upgrade to the juice feeding process could easily include a "check valve" that would open the "vents" when the pump operates, and closes the "vents" when not in operation. Then the EQ would not have to remain upright to keep from "leaking" juice inside the unit...."

EDIT: While it may seem like I have a lot of criticism, I still want my EQ back.

 

[medman1234]

Just read my email.
Whispers in the air..................?
Are you kidding.

 

[irukandji9111]

I agree with keeping the order the same for the 2nd version...100%! I am number 26....barely made it into the club

 

[Drumonron]

Just read my email.
Whispers in the air..................?
Are you kidding.

What is meant by "Whispers in the air...........?"?

 

[VictoryNotVengence]

OFFICIAL EQ NEWS
RECALL REFUND



After reviewing 2 of the units that came back for various issues and inspecting them thoroughly we have come to the conclusion that there is a flaw in the design, where the atomizer connector is seated in the drip well which can allow pooled e-liquid to seep inside over a period of 1 or two days on the internal electronic and cause many faults. Some of them include: Random Voltage adjustment, Leaking e-liquid from the pump button, and the dreaded blinking light lock up, and possibly other failures. we will be re-evaluating these flaws, and others that have been mentioned.
[/email]

you couldn't have put some sealent in there? what about the 2 EQ units you took to vapefest and the one mario has been using for weeks on his show? I bet those are sealed up nice and tight. If you had put as much effort into OUR EQ's as you put into YOURS there wouldn't have to be a recall.

 

[jimho]

I'm all for good will and helping to make a product better- I'll be happy to beta test if I can share my findings with others.

That's where I draw the line. I'm not interested in being among the 1st to pay for a production unit unless there's a 7 day trial period, I can see the beta issues, and there's a list of what's been fixed, what will be addresed at a later point, and what's not going to be addressed. Other reputable high end vendors do that and if DC wants to be compared to them, that's where the comparisons start.

 

[mwa102464]

I Don't know what Atty's your where using Atlas but that Shadow proprietary feed adapter fit in every 510 I used it on and fit it like a glove, just perfect, and little bit snug is a perfect fit, ( NO AIR LOSS )what AttY'S did you use, they fit the Eastmall LR-510'S the Ikens Perfect in my opinion, again what Atty where you using ? I'm just curious so I dont get them, also I believe there is some variance in some different 510 tubes, most are 9mm I believe but some different

 

[mwa102464]

I'm all for good will and helping to make a product better- I'll be happy to beta test if I can share my findings with others.

That's where I draw the line. I'm not interested in being among the 1st to pay for a production unit unless there's a 7 day trial period, I can see the beta issues, and there's a list of what's been fixed, what will be addresed at a later point, and what's not going to be addressed. Other reputable high end vendors do that and if DC wants to be compared to them, that's where the comparisons start.

I agree, I also told Michael I would like to Beta too, I know everyone won't be able to but I think you and I would make for great Beta testers on this unit Jimho !

 

[irukandji9111]

I literally got to use my eq for 45 minutes b4 the email hit the inbox....this sums up my life...

 

[mwa102464]

What I dont understand here also if it is only the connector that would be an easy recall fix to repair and send back put to the clients. ! This is making me wonder if there is something else to this recall and sending all of them in like this instead of just using a recall ticket system and when your ticket is called the envelope would be delivered to your house to send them in, or all 26 sent in and sent back out when fixed,also all the rest of the units could be repaired in house before they left, this connector isn't a very hard thing here to fix I wouldn't think Michael ? just making me feel there is more behind this for some reason, there has to be more to this where not hearing about here. I'm also now wondering why we all haven't heard from Mario now too

 

[Friend of Atlas]

I Don't know what Atty's your where using Atlas but that Shadow proprietary feed adapter fit in every 510 I used it on and fit it like a glove, just perfect, and little bit snug is a perfect fit, ( NO AIR LOSS )what AttY'S did you use, they fit the Eastmall LR-510'S the Ikens Perfect in my opinion, again what Atty where you using ? I'm just curious so I dont get them, also I believe there is some variance in some different 510 tubes, most are 9mm I believe but some different

I'm not sure where the first atty was from - just a SR 510 atty I had laying around. But I also had trouble with my IKV 510 atty; it wasn't AS bad but it was too snug - I had to use considerable force to remove it though I was able to forgo the pliers on that one

 

[harpo]

I'm not sure where the first atty was from - just a SR 510 atty I had laying around. But I also had trouble with my IKV 510 atty; it wasn't AS bad but it was too snug - I had to use considerable force to remove it though I was able to forgo the pliers on that one

I had the same issue as you.

 

[Friend of Atlas]

I literally got to use my eq for 45 minutes b4 the email hit the inbox....this sums up my life...

Your life must be pretty good - you got to try it out and did minimal damge while doing so -wink-

 

[ioicctsniw]

Well that's a bummer, although I am glad it's getting straightened out.

I'm hoping that us preorder folks get first crack at ordering when it's rereleased.

AndyC

 

[NCC]

In the short time I had mine to use, I found only one major criticism to offer. The Instruction Manual. Come on, I could've done a better job when I was 12 years old. A little proof reading would make it a lot more useful, IMO.

I like the heft of the device. Feels great in the hand. Sad that I won't get to play with it more.

EDIT: I didn't have enough time with the device to have any criticism in that regard.

POST EDIT: OH, and I finally corrected my account email. Maybe I'll get updates now.

 

[irukandji9111]

Just got a personal response from michael after sending him an email....regardless of his reasons, he is doing the absolute right thing. End of story.

 

[mwa102464]

I'm not sure where the first atty was from - just a SR 510 atty I had laying around. But I also had trouble with my IKV 510 atty; it wasn't AS bad but it was too snug - I had to use considerable force to remove it though I was able to forgo the pliers on that one

That's odd to me, I use mostly Ikens and it fit mine absolutely perfect, you want this Feed adapter tight Atlas, if not there would be an air loss and that would mess things up on the draw, you can also always change O-Rings to a smaller one or not as thick and make it to your likings I would think, but with 510s they should be 9mm but there is some variance in the different manufactures I'm sure depending where they all but there tubing from different wholesalers so every one isn't going to fit the same, this iS a good reason to have a nice bag of O-Rings around so you can make an adjustment when needed

 

[MXBNW]

Got an email as well, Michel will be sending out the shipping slips in a few days. I got all the odds and end here.

I think Michel and DC is doing the right thing. I for one will be standing by to play my part in helping (If chosen) to bring the EQv2 to market perfect this time. I have no hard feelings.

Like I said when I sent mine back the first time. It was a good test of how DC was going to handle things like returns.
I did my part in that regards.

It sounds like he discovered some issues in Drumms and my unit tonight when he got them back. I am glad he used the mods to better the next attempt. My unit arrived today at DC around 3pm PST. That means he was all over it when it arrived.

I for one will be Standing buy again like I did so many months ago.

I will add my thoughts on a few things I made note of so Michel can see them and take it to account for the EQv2 or what ever it will be called.

For now
Standing Buy