iTaste MVP v2 Owners Group

[SoaFung]

No one is implying anything.



If you look at the output of the Provari, MVP 2 and the vv3 on the scope it looks like flat DC. How that is achieved, is really irrelevant.



PWM is used in boost circuits to increase the voltage output of a fixed DC source. In the case of the less inexpensive mods, this is done at 33hz or 48hz and it is both visible on a scope, audible, and some people claim detectable in the vape.



On the MVP 2, VV3, and ProVari, either the PWM is occurring at such a high rate that it appears flat on a scope, or there is additional filtering done on the output signal to flatten it out. However it's done is not the issue.



Bottom line, when you put an MVP, VV3, and ProVari on a scope they look identical. And if precision electronic measuring equipment can't tell the difference, neither than our less calibrated bodies.....

I understand all of this. What I don't understand is how the information has been collected regarding the provari's 800 hz and the evic's 100 hz.

Whatever method was used determining that should be able to collect the MVP 2 output frequency.

The main reason I have brought this up, is to have ammo for the provari pimps. To many threads by new capers asking about upgrades are filled with "get a provari" as the answer.

The more data that can be shown that the MVP 2 is not that much different spec wise is a win. Especially when the MVP 2 can be had at a fourth the cost of the provari.





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[Capt.shay]

Knock it off guys. Mike- don't be a poopy head.

Soa- your question has been answered. Not that it matters

We have a informative, helpful and friendly thread going here. Lets keep it that way, ok guys?

 

[p.opus]

I always find the ProVari vs the world arguments amusing but somewhat pointless.

The ProVari is a premium product and has a premium price. Until recently, there were really no peers as far as vape quality goes.

That has changed.

Now it is possible for consumers to purchase rather inexpensive products and achieve the same vape quality as a ProVari at a fraction of the price.....The trade off?????. You throw it away after the internal battery dies.

With a ProVari, you have a device that will work for years and years, and when the batteries die, you simply replace the batteries. Pretty safe investment.

I use my vv3's for out and about vaping. They are perfect for the car and for my desk. Small, light descrete. I purchased three of them to limit how many times I charge them. The USB passthrough is a nice feature, but if you read the concepts regarding a parasitic load, (which is what USB passthrough is) they are BRUTAL on Li- Ion batteries. The same article also recommends turning your system off while charging which is why I turn off my battery when ever I put it on the cord.

How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries - Battery University

Sure, Using the USB passthrough once in a while in a pinch is not going to destroy your battery, but if you are using USB passthrough on a daily basis in lieu of having a backup battery, you will murder the battery. Eventually that bad boy will deteriorate to the point of being useless when it's unplugged.

I use my MVP2 at home in the evenings and the weekends. I charge it twice a week.

So far, I have not seen the need to purchase a ProVari as the MVP2 provides me the long term life and voltage regulation I desire. If my MVP 2 does begin to die, then I will invest in the ProVari. But since I am primarily a VW vaper, I'm holding off, hoping a ProVari with VW is in the works (Please let's not start another "why VW on a ProVari is unnecessary thread")

 

[Patkid]

Knock it off guys. Mike- don't be a poopy head.

Soa- your question has been answered. Not that it matters

We have a informative, helpful and friendly thread going here. Lets keep it that way, ok guys?

LMAO @ Poopyhead.
I just love you, Capt.

 

[p.opus]

The main reason I have brought this up, is to have ammo for the provari pimps. To many threads by new capers asking about upgrades are filled with "get a provari" as the answer.

The more data that can be shown that the MVP 2 is not that much different spec wise is a win. Especially when the MVP 2 can be had at a fourth the cost of the provari.

Why do does it always have to be "one or the other". Save for two counterfeit Mini Protank's that broke on me in three weeks, I have not ever made an investment that I regret. Each purchase served a purpose.

I understand the motives of some of the ProVarians. They figure you will get to ProVari eventually so why waste money getting there.
I understand the motive of some Anti-ProVarians. They see ProVari's as overpriced and don't want the newbie to be soaked.

While both have good points, it should not be a "one or the other" argument.

If you get a ProVari, you are NOT getting soaked. It is a high quality product, lasts forever, and vapes beautifully. Did you pay for it? Yep. Will it give you years and years of trouble free service? Yes. The only way anyone gets soaked is if the buyer is not vested into vaping. I wouldn't recommend a ProVari who's "just trying it out". However by the time you are thinking about a ProVari, you are vested.

If you DON'T get a ProVari, it doesn't mean you're wasting your money either. Like I said. None of my purchases were what I would consider a waste. My eGo stick and CE5 starter kit proved to me I could vape to stop smoking. After which, I wanted to improve the experience.

In the quest of improving that experience, I picked up several vv3's and an MVP2 in the process.

I feel that a ProVari is in my future. Not just yet though. However, If I did pick up a ProVari, it would not be my exclusive vape.

My vv3's serve their out and about purpose. My MVP2 serves it's purpose, which is to help extend the life time of my vv3's by limiting their time on the charger, and provide an all day vape during the weekend.

My ProVari would replace my MVP2 for the evening and weekend vape, but then the MVP2 would serve as my Travel Vape and other situations where I want a longer lasting vape, but don't want to put my ProVari in harms way.

The point is....There is no "right" or "wrong" answer. Only what's right for you......

 

[Pinggolfer]

The Provari is the king, however it is not waterproof and if it gets wet and fries the chip it needs to be replaced, along with the battery and more then likely the switch. Their warranty doesn't cover water damage. If it happens to your MVP you lost $40.00. If you are happy with the vape from your MVP2 or VV-3 then why invest over $200.00 for a Provari.

 

[p.opus]

If it happens to your MVP you lost $40.00. If you are happy with the vape from your MVP2 or VV-3 then why invest over $200.00 for a Provari.

That is why I haven't pulled the trigger on the Provari...yet. I'm looking for Provape to develop VW. I'm evaluating the MVP2 to see how long it lasts.

If the MVP2 lasts 1.5 to 2.0 years, then I may not ever buy a ProVari. If my MVP2 starts dying in 6 month, then I am most likely to buy a ProVari for my home use.

 

[Pinggolfer]

That is why I haven't pulled the trigger on the Provari...yet. I'm looking for Provape to develop VW. I'm evaluating the MVP2 to see how long it lasts.

If you mention VW in a Provari thread you will hear how there is no reason for it as it's so perfect the way it is. You know "if it ain't broke don't fix it".

 

[p.opus]

If you mention VW in a Provari thread you will hear how there is no reason for it as it's so perfect the way it is. You know "if it ain't broke don't fix it".

I know........been down that road.....They didn't convince me. I don't like adjusting when I swap tanks...Plain and simple

 

[Capt.shay]

I know........been down that road.....They didn't convince me. I don't like adjusting when I swap tanks...Plain and simple

And I adjust constantly even on the same tank some times. I wouldn't care in the least bit if my MVP didn't have VW at all as long as it had an ohm meter. It's a matter of preference.

 

[punkkin]

And I adjust constantly even on the same tank some times. I wouldn't care in the least bit if my MVP didn't have VW at all as long as it had an ohm meter. It's a matter of preference.

I used the VW the first week I had mine...now I never do, but I still like the fact that it's there.

 

[SoaFung]

I know........been down that road.....They didn't convince me. I don't like adjusting when I swap tanks...Plain and simple

that is why I like my MVP 2. Another aspect is I use the vv and vw as preset for certain juices.





I leave vw at 7.5w and vv at 3.9v. I use the vv on lighter juices that burn easily as the are always in my 2.4 ohm Pyrex ARO. The juices that are capable of the higher heat get vw. I use the Pyrex aros (same 2.4 ohm coils) and a 1.8 ohm aspire bdc vivi nova Pyrex for those juices. The vw does it's job and all is tasty and satisfying.


3 seconds and mo matter the juice or tank all is where it needs to be for me.



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[Red Dog]

The ProVari is a premium product and has a premium price. Until recently, there were really no peers as far as vape quality goes.

Darwin. A superior device in many ways. I think a lot of people were put off by the unconventional design, and resulting difficulty in using tanks on it. Having to send it in for new batteries every year or so was a negative, but it was a quick turn around with overnight shipping.

 

[twolostminds]

I will not order a Provari...I will not order a Provari...I will not order a Provari...I knew it was a bad idea to log on to ECF today lol Nope...not gonna do it, need to save up for DIY equipment & supplies.

 

[pufZeppelin]

order all (4) colors of MVP - order all (4) colors of MVP
order all (4) colors of MVP - order all (4) colors of MVP
order all (4) colors of MVP - order all (4) colors of MVP

use rest of money to buy DIY equipment & supplies
use rest of money to buy DIY equipment & supplies
use rest of money to buy DIY equipment & supplies

enjoy vaping just as much
enjoy vaping just as much
enjoy vaping just as much​

JMO
JMO
JMO

 

[Capt.shay]

I will not order a Provari...I will not order a Provari...I will not order a Provari...I knew it was a bad idea to log on to ECF today lol Nope...not gonna do it, need to save up for DIY equipment & supplies.

Don't get caught up in it all. Your MVP will do every thing a prothingy can do and more. Live with it for a while and think long and hard if you want to go the replaceable battery route. May be you will decide to but until then the MVP throws a very similar vape for pennies on the dollar.

I think you're vape budget would be better spent on DIY for now. You will get a lot more out of playing around with your own juices. It really adds to the whole vaping "thing".

 

[Ed_C]

If you mention VW in a Provari thread you will hear how there is no reason for it as it's so perfect the way it is. You know "if it ain't broke don't fix it".

I find that argument rather amusing and sad. The business world is littered with companies who were on the top of the heap, decided that they could just rest on their laurels, and then got trampled over by up and coming companies. I worked for one, Kodak.

 

[Catuela]

Here is my fog machine with a little love for one of my favorite companies.

 

[therussellv]

So I'm thinking about going for the hypertank for my next acquisition, anyone here have experience with it?

I also have seen a 10 ml tank in my surfing but don't remember what it was, anyone know?

I'm looking to vape without coming up for air in case you didn't notice. Also want something that is worthy of my mvp.

Last stinkie Oct. 15, 2013

 

[therussellv]

Smoketech apparently has a similar tank, pyrex aluminum bottom coil, 6ml, any thoughts?

Last stinkie Oct. 15, 2013