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While a short, simplified version of the rules would be most welcome, after over 15 years of being an admin/moderator on some site or another personal experience shows that the short and sweet ones just don't cut it. There is always someone who will take the staff to task over a perceived exploit in the rules and then play the drama queen in the forums when smacked on the nose for something. As time goes on, those "simple" rules get added to because someone declared they could do "X" because it wasn't spelled out.
Drama queens are bad for forums. Especially when they get like minded individuals to step in behind them and then all holy hell breaks loose. All because a rule wasn't spelled out to the letter and they think they were "punished" unfairly. This is why a lot of forum rules get longer and longer for sites that have been online for a long time. Same with ECF. We've had something happen which causes us to include it in the rules.
Personally, I'd prefer to show the trouble maker out via the goal posts in cases like that. But here at ECF, even the staff has a standard and set of rules we have to follow. And for some, that's a good thing. Otherwise they'd have been shown the door ages ago.
Drama queens are bad for forums. Especially when they get like minded individuals to step in behind them and then all holy hell breaks loose. All because a rule wasn't spelled out to the letter and they think they were "punished" unfairly. This is why a lot of forum rules get longer and longer for sites that have been online for a long time. Same with ECF. We've had something happen which causes us to include it in the rules.
Personally, I'd prefer to show the trouble maker out via the goal posts in cases like that. But here at ECF, even the staff has a standard and set of rules we have to follow. And for some, that's a good thing. Otherwise they'd have been shown the door ages ago.
I wrote this a LONG time ago for another forum when I was a moderator there. A couple of changes to make it apply to ECF, but generally, it's pretty much the same thing.
One more question--since we're discussing rules.
#19b. There was a time when we were all very good about breaking those URLs, but not so much lately. Have we abandoned the idea of breaking links to junk? It's still on the books, but nobody's doing it anymore--or so it seems to me. So, to break or not to break? What's the latest?
Depends on the "source".
Again, the staff isn't able to see everything, so we do rely on the membership to bring things to our attention.
Again, the staff isn't able to see everything, so we do rely on the membership to bring things to our attention.
This brings up another point regarding the staff. There's really just a few of us at this point, and we're all busy with real life stuff as well.
Moderators Wanted
If you think you have what it takes and have a fairly clean record on ECF you can apply here: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/forms/moderator-application.38/respond
Moderators Wanted
If you think you have what it takes and have a fairly clean record on ECF you can apply here: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/forms/moderator-application.38/respond
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Ok....I was crazy enough to look at the application....where does one find the required reading.. as to the qualifications? 
Ok....I was crazy enough to look at the application....where does one find the required reading.. as to the qualifications?
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Glad I never had issues with you.Ok....I was crazy enough to look at the application....where does one find the required reading.. as to the qualifications?
Having never been a moderator before it looks like a non starter for me ( actually I believe I was one years ago, vlc forum, when I was active coding [emoji5]).
Prior experience isn't a firm requirement as we do have a training program. We actually do quite a bit of work behind the scenes. Your first few days as a new mod are spent reading up on what we do. Then I connect with you via Skype to do the actual hands on training.
Gee willikers!! Is my reputation that bad?Glad I never had issues with you.
Guess it's a good thing that I will abstain from applying to be a mod...
Having been an SA for a vendor in the past....I have to ask...what restrictions does a mod have on where and how one can and can't post? I know....questions, questions...
Feel free to PM me with specific questions. I think I've derailed this one enough to where it needs to get back on track with the original topic. 
Thank you...
Go for it, yiddle baby!
An enthusiastic thumbs up from me.
Having never been a moderator before it looks like a non starter for me ( actually I believe I was one years ago, vlc forum, when I was active coding).
Go Mark! I'll write you a letter.
I think I've derailed this one enough to where it needs to get back on track with the original topic.
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