Older Folks and Vaping Back Porch - Part Four

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Awesome video bells!

:offtopic: Geordi and I show in his first show (breed/conformation) tomorrow. We also show Saturday and Sunday. He has been doing very well in class and out and about, so wish us luck! He is still very puppy, all gangly and silly, but I just want us to have fun and a good experience. And ya never know!!
 

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I humbly surrender myself for my beheading in that my math was horrendously incorrect! Mea culpa...
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Good catch, Dave!
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Awesome video bells!

:offtopic: Geordi and I show in his first show (breed/conformation) tomorrow. We also show Saturday and Sunday. He has been doing very well in class and out and about, so wish us luck! He is still very puppy, all gangly and silly, but I just want us to have fun and a good experience. And ya never know!!
awwwwwwwwwwww hope Geordi and you have an awesome time, and hope he does great and has a great experience!
 

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Awesome video bells!

:offtopic: Geordi and I show in his first show (breed/conformation) tomorrow. We also show Saturday and Sunday. He has been doing very well in class and out and about, so wish us luck! He is still very puppy, all gangly and silly, but I just want us to have fun and a good experience. And ya never know!!

All Porchers,

Wish ya'll could see mama, son and their sweet trainer; absolutely joyful (all three of 'em)! How I wish i could attend da showing...
 

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meanwhile, on the porch...

Dennis, you're all too kind. Da only way you'd get that much participation is by serving mead... or having da peasants read da ECF!

How's your new digs? How many boxes do ya have left to 'discover'?


Robert,

How's your bride doing post surgery? And yourself?

We could use an update...
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Awesome video bells!

:offtopic: Geordi and I show in his first show (breed/conformation) tomorrow. We also show Saturday and Sunday. He has been doing very well in class and out and about, so wish us luck! He is still very puppy, all gangly and silly, but I just want us to have fun and a good experience. And ya never know!!
Cool! Can't wait to hear how it goes, good luck!
 

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Dennis, you're all too kind. Da only way you'd get that much participation is by serving mead... or having da peasants read da ECF!

How's your new digs? How many boxes do ya have left to 'discover'?


mead will be on me, my friend. the least i could do to support your beheading :)

the new digs are great. if anything, i have too much room now.

i'm on a "open (at least) one box per day" regimen, imposed by yiddle last week...


i don't think i'm a week behind yet, but it's close
 

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lol do it at your own pace. If you go a year and have boxes you haven't even looked at, it must not be nuttin ya need, git rid of em! :laugh:

If it' goes anywhere near being too long a time......I'll be boarding a plane for CA to help him out.....
 

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@bigbells you know I was rewatching the busardo DNA200 again and I didn't realize that the Lipos if they are 900mah are the same as a 2700mah 18650 in a single battery mod. So some of them that are higher then 900 would give you more time nah I'm wrong again. I almost fell asleep watching it again. I was going to see who ordered it first you or me but that's a moot point now they sold out.
 

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You Might have already gotten this but if you read it pay attention to the flavor section that is a rumor.
FDA Deeming Regulations of Vapor Products Moves Forward

The planned “deeming regulation,” with which the FDA will assume regulatory authority over e-cigarettes, has finally started moving forward again.
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It is now under review at the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA), the White House office that is tasked with making sure regulations create more benefits than costs. There is little doubt that the proposed regulation will eliminate the legal market for 99.99% -- perhaps even 100% -- of the products over which FDA asserts jurisdiction after a grace period. (The grace period in last year’s draft version of the regulation was two years.) There is an unconfirmed rumor that FDA will attempt to ban all non-tobacco flavors almost immediately.



CASAA is currently working on our presentation to OIRA at a meeting that is scheduled for December 15, 2015. This is a process in which we and other petitioners are required to provide analysis to OIRA without the benefit of seeing the exact current regulation. However, we have every reason to believe that it is, unfortunately, basically the same as the draft FDA published last year. As of now, it is our assessment that OIRA altering or rejecting this proposed regulation is the best hope of saving the diverse e-cigarette marketplace until Congress changes the law. (Please note that some have suggested that individual vapers try to schedule meetings with OIRA. We are not recommending this to our members. We are, however, asking consumers to submit their stories as part of CASAA’s Testimonials Project. We will be sharing those testimonials with OIRA at our meeting next month.)



You will find some of ongoing analysis of the current situation posted by CASAA's Chief Scientific Officer, Dr. Carl Phillips, on his antiTHRlies blog. Already posted are why this is not really regulation (but rather a ban pretending to be regulation) and why the history of FDA’s actions (and the US government more generally) related to low-risk smokeless tobacco suggest that FDA will not behave moderately or rationally once it has authority. If you want to read about the implications of FDA regulation in more depth, check out CASAA’s comment on the draft version of the regulation (pdf).





Watch For CASAA's Survey

We will be launching a survey of our members that will provide critical information we can present to OIRA. Please watch for the invitation to participate and then do so. This is an important survey that could make a real difference, but we will need members to participate!



To continue this and our other work, CASAA depends on member donations to be able to keep fighting on your behalf. We do not charge membership dues, but we ask that you consider making a donation of any size.
 
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