Older Folks and Vaping Back Porch - Part Three

[bigbells]

Heh... Funny you should say that...
I once got snapped at by a professional fly-tie-guy... Um a guy who ties flys for a living.
He is the one who told me it was flys for fishing and flies for swatting.

I think at this point, it depends on who you talk to.

Kind of like saying dwarfs or dwarves.
You call a group of little people dwarves, they are likely to kick your assets for you.

Not really a parallel comparison. Dwarfs and dwarves can both be found in the dictionary. Flys cannot be found in the dictionary, or even in Fly Fishing magazine.

 

[Rickajho]

Heat pumps are extraordinarily common around here. Mine is 22 years old and has required one $300 repair in that time. There never was any tax break on it, it's just something that works well in this climate. Do I understand how it works? Not really.

Everything in my house is electric, and I have no utility bill other than electricity. No water bill since I have my own well and a septic system. Average monthly electric bill is $225.




Mine's a Bosch too. It does not have a heated drying option but I just open the door when it's done and the load dries quickly (and streak-free thanks to Jet-Dri). Stuff like inverted cups with concave bottoms hold water so I grab such things and pour the water into the sink before putting them back in the dishwasher to finish drying.

I am still constantly amazed by how dirty things can be when I put them in the dishwasher and still come out spotless. Spaghetti sauce is no problem.

Mom and dad didn't buy a color TV until after I graduated HS in 1969, but we had an electric dishwasher since the mid-1950s. The first one was one of those dishwashers on wheels that had to be hooked up to the kitchen faucet. Dad was impossible, insisting that dishes be clean BEFORE going into the dishwasher. He never unlearned that, but I've been able to.

Here's an article explaining just how difficult it is to wash dishes by hand and match the efficiency of an automatic dishwasher. Plus, as someone already mentioned, your hands can't take the temperatures that an automatic dishwasher uses to clean, rinse and sterilize. I put my non-stick fry pans and non-stick George Foreman grill plates in the dishwasher without hesitation.Built In Dishwashers vs. Hand Washing: Which is Greener? : TreeHugger

^^^ That. It's the combination of 135 degree water temps, somewhat caustic detergent, and really good spray patterns that gets the job done. They keep getting better - both in terms of efficiency of water use and cleaning effectiveness with every redesign and tweak they go through. If your dw has a high temp wash option - use it - especially if you low ball your water heater setting to save money elsewhere. Our current MayTag doesn't even use 1.5 gallons of water per fill - by the time that little water gets up to it from the hot water tank it isn't even warm yet. Rather than run and run and run the hot water before starting the dw we just push the high temp option on the dw instead and let it heat the small amount of water it uses as it sees fit. (Which is only during the wash part of the cycle.)

In general people don't seem to understand how little water current dishwashers actually use, and how much water goes down the drain hand washing dishes as well. Pre-rinsing dishes even is a waste of time and water. The only general rules that still apply are:

No aluminum in the dishwasher - the soap will kill it - literally.

If you have pots or other things with black plastic handles that you want to keep black - keep those out of the dishwasher as well. The black plastic handles may get hazy with time. Of course if you don't care it's not an issue.

Fancy stuff with gold or silver trim. You know - the plates and glasses that never make it out of the china cabinet anyway. The soap will strip that trim off with time.

No wood or anything with wood handles.

My rule: If it fits it's going in there! Even the 6.5 quart crock pot liner. Life is too short to wash dishes by hand.

 

[garyoa1]

Not really a parallel comparison. Dwarfs and dwarves can both be found in the dictionary. Flys cannot be found in the dictionary, or even in Fly Fishing magazine.

Flyz iz every wear on da planet. Prolly Mars too!!!!

 

[Rickajho]

I don't have a coloring book but I do have feathers and fur. So last night I was tying some flys before bedtime.

I am so not a fishing person. All I see is "what's the coil resistance and how does that work for wick material?"

Gotta admit though Mike - that sure is a purty thing.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Does fly tying materials make good wicks?

 

[garyoa1]

Used ta love fly fishin. Have a few poles but my fav was a split bamboo my uncle left me in his will. Used to have it on a overhead rack in da cellar. Then had a guy cleanin. The tip fell on the floor, he had no clue what it was so... I have a split bamboo with on section missing. My ears still smoke when I think o that guy.

 

[MikeE3]

Does fly tying materials make good wicks?

Only if you like sucking on the urine stained belly hair from a female red fox. A choice color to imitate a Hendrickson (common name), Ephemerella subvaria (Latin Name).

Used ta love fly fishin. Have a few poles but my fav was a split bamboo my uncle left me in his will. Used to have it on a overhead rack in da cellar. Then had a guy cleanin. The tip fell on the floor, he had no clue what it was so... I have a split bamboo with on section missing. My ears still smoke when I think o that guy.

ouu ... ouch ... grimace ... I feel your pain. And I hope it wasn't an old Payne bamboo rod - they're worth a fortune.

 

[runamok]

Ya know we get some really weird conversations going here. Dish washing vs dishwashers, light bulbs,flys vs flies. Socks then shoes or left vs right. I love it! Of course I've been fighting a head cold for 2 day and it may be just the drugs talking. I haven't been sick all winter long so as soon as the temp holds over 85 for 2 week Of course I get sick. I really do hope it rains this weekend because that gives me a reason to own my lawn tractor. So I hand wash the worst off then dishwasher, mostly CF bulbs where I don't dim or use long, Straight cool A/C with heat strips, & and beer for everything else. Take 2 six packs and call me in the afternoon." My cat's better then your dog, My cats better then yours ,My cats better cause he's just imaginary, My cheeses is better than theirs." What was I saying? "30 day's has Sept, April ,May & Nov, all the rest eats peanut butter except Grandma, She rides a mule" I'm so messed up right now.
I did a 2 ohm Sophia coil today and it's vapeing GOOD!

 

[bigbells]

Gary (or anyone else looking for a new dishwasher);
Consumer Reports lists this Bosch dishwasher model as a Best Buy, for $540:
Sears.com

 

[bigbells]

Ya know we get some really weird conversations going here. Dish washing vs dishwashers, light bulbs,flys vs flies. Socks then shoes or left vs right. I love it! Of course I've been fighting a head cold for 2 day and it may be just the drugs talking. I haven't been sick all winter long so as soon as the temp holds over 85 for 2 week Of course I get sick. I really do hope it rains this weekend because that gives me a reason to own my lawn tractor. So I hand wash the worst off then dishwasher, mostly CF bulbs where I don't dim or use long, Straight cool A/C with heat strips, & and beer for everything else. Take 2 six packs and call me in the afternoon." My cat's better then your dog, My cats better then yours ,My cats better cause he's just imaginary, My cheeses is better than theirs." What was I saying? "30 day's has Sept, April ,May & Nov, all the rest eats peanut butter except Grandma, She rides a mule" I'm so messed up right now.
I did a 2 ohm Sophia coil today and it's vapeing GOOD!

I'm very sorry that you feel messed up, but that was delightfully hilarious!

 

[garyoa1]

Only if you like sucking on the urine stained belly hair from a female red fox. A choice color to imitate a Hendrickson (common name), Ephemerella subvaria (Latin Name).

ouu ... ouch ... grimace ... I feel your pain. And I hope it wasn't an old Payne bamboo rod - they're worth a fortune.

No clue. I was only about 10 years old when I got it and he had it for eons. I do know some of the older ones can bring around 1k. Everything he had was top shelf. Like the fox-sterlingworth dubble barrel I also got.

 

[runamok]

BTW all my appliances are black except for the range it's white under all the tomato sauce stains. Guess what's getting cleaned tomorrow?

 

[runamok]

Don't worry BB I like this feeling. & I'm having fun with my friends. And if it looks like a bug , fish will eat it. I couldn't stand for the fishers who'd wait a half mile down from the dump point to catch the fresh dropped trout in the Hiawassi river , no sport. Give them 3 days and I'd get out there with a fly and try my best. I just catch and release more then my fill. God's I miss the mountains cold streams but not the snow.

 

[bigbells]

BTW all my appliances are black except for the range it's white under all the tomato sauce stains. Guess what's getting cleaned tomorrow?

I have no clue. A fish?

 

[MikeE3]

Ya know we get some really weird conversations going here. Dish washing vs dishwashers, light bulbs,flys vs flies. Socks then shoes or left vs right. I love it! Of course I've been fighting a head cold for 2 day and it may be just the drugs talking. I haven't been sick all winter long so as soon as the temp holds over 85 for 2 week Of course I get sick. I really do hope it rains this weekend because that gives me a reason to own my lawn tractor. So I hand wash the worst off then dishwasher, mostly CF bulbs where I don't dim or use long, Straight cool A/C with heat strips, & and beer for everything else. Take 2 six packs and call me in the afternoon." My cat's better then your dog, My cats better then yours ,My cats better cause he's just imaginary, My cheeses is better than theirs." What was I saying? "30 day's has Sept, April ,May & Nov, all the rest eats peanut butter except Grandma, She rides a mule" I'm so messed up right now.
I did a 2 ohm Sophia coil today and it's vapeing GOOD!

What he said ^ ... (what did he say?)

No clue. I was only about 10 years old when I got it and he had it for eons. I do know some of the older ones can bring around 1k. Everything he had was top shelf. Like the fox-sterlingworth dubble barrel I also got.

Add some zeros Gary. Try $10K to 20K for the real collectables. Even a few of the top makers are charging $15-20K for a custom bamboo rod. And they have a waiting list. One of these rod makers though makes his customers promise they will fish with it and not just hang it up in their man room. Not unheard of either to pay $2000 for a top-of-the-top line hand made fly reel today either. Nope not me!

 

[Rickajho]

BTW all my appliances are black except for the range it's white under all the tomato sauce stains. Guess what's getting cleaned tomorrow?

I have no clue. A fish?

The peanut butter on Grandma's mule saddle?

 

[mmsjs5]

http://www.animalplanet.com/tv-shows/giraffe-birth-live/

Who's watching the giraffe give birth? It's happening NOW!

 

[garyoa1]

What he said ^ ... (what did he say?)



Add some zeros Gary. Try $10K to 20K for the real collectables. Even a few of the top makers are charging $15-20K for a custom bamboo rod. And they have a waiting list. One of these rod makers though makes his customers promise they will fish with it and not just hang it up in their man room. Not unheard of either to pay $2000 for a top-of-the-top line hand made fly reel today either. Nope not me!

Heh, wonder if they'll pay by da section.

 

[Kenna]

Giraffe being born. http://www.animalplanet.com/tv-shows/giraffe-birth-live/

 

[MattB101]

I just leave the door open and let them air dry. And always empty the bottom dishes first so if there's any water left on the top glasses it won't splash down on them.

Me too but, I don't like it that they don't dry. Next one will, I guarantee!

Summertime, summertime, sum, sum, summertime. I can't wait for summertime!