I like that idea. Always seems to burn a bit on that first hit every time. I was chain vaping the 20mg yesterday as I had at times on the 18 mg. After dinner, I got dizzy, woozie and had to go lie down. Could have been the tacos or the carbonated water or the vape...or the combination.20 seems a little high to me unless you are still getting major ciggy cravings on a regular basis. I tend to chain vape and mix mine at 12mg all the time. It need a little more nic due to stress eat. I just hit it a little more often.
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I thought about that too. It was peach, strawberry and coconut...and while I'm not allergic to any of those, there could be something in their mix/extraction process. They never tell you all of that on the labels.
The link doesn't take me to the Hangout. All it does is take me to the Play Store via Chrome. I don't quite know what to do any help would be appreciated thank you! 
Chain vaping 20mg would be a bit much in my not so humble opinion. Like I said if your chain vaping you have to use a lower overall nic level. Somewhere between 8 and 12 usually works for me. The symptoms you were showing yesterday look like nic overdose or, building up to a nic overdose. Not park in the hospital type overdose just make you feel a little dizzy that kind of thing.
I am very sensitive to nic (without the other 2,000 substances in burning tobacco), because of inner ear problems. Maybe back down to something less than even the 18. Watch out for the nausea and dizziness-- clear-cut symptoms. Just vape more, and be aware of what your body is telling you.
Sooooooooo good to have you home.
Good to see ya Kari!! And congrats on the new Grandbaby!!
As opposed to paper you can't cut???
You and matt come to the hangout if ya can, easier than typing all this
Matt..... Sign in - Google Accounts the link that I'm in, if it takes ya to the store, dunno then Maybe your app got messed up and you need to re dl it
For sure the dizziness, nausea etc is nic sickness. That's just taking in too much nic over too short a time period. Got some other stuffs for ya to try but would be easier to say than type it if you can come to the hangout
I think it is telling you that you need to download the app. Hangouts - Android Apps on Google PlayThe link doesn't take me to the Hangout. All it does is take me to the Play Store via Chrome. I don't quite know what to do any help would be appreciated thank you!
Matt, if you figure it out on your phone please let me know what you did. Works fine on my laptop but the link just takes me to Google Play too, and I do have it installed.
that is really odd.... that the link is takin y'all just to the app store. Thought maybe with Matt, something got booted from his app. But I know he's used that link before on his tablet, so maybe something is goin on with google hangout today that's hinky Hiya Cl!!
Hiya Deb! The link has always been thus on my phone. Oh well.
Not much change in how I feel yet, but it's barely been 24 hours.... At least nothing is worse.
Not much change in how I feel yet, but it's barely been 24 hours.... At least nothing is worse.
@seapeach I am often accused of having an "Oz complex" in that I frequently give advice when not requested. So here I am.
If you already know the following then just ignore it. There are different techniques to vaping just as there are different techniques to smoking. I agree that you are over-niced because of the high nic percent and the chain vaping. Most of the nic that goes into your bloodstream is absorbed by the mucosa in your mouth and "bronchs".....VERY little, if any, through your lungs. A vaping draw should be done sort of like sipping a drink through a straw and not by taking a long, large hit. You can choose to draw the vape into your mouth, hesitate with it there for a couple seconds and inhale or not. Even after 4 years I sometimes decide not to draw the vapor into my lungs. To demonstrate this take a vape slowly and inhale. Don't exhale immediately......count slowly to 5, exhale and there won't be any visible vapor. Holding the vapor for a short time is normally done to "stealth vape". The other technique is "lung inhale" normally done by cloud chasers. Instead of holding the vapor in your mouth then inhaling, take the vape directly into your lungs. If this is done with heavy amounts of VG, low Ω, and high watts you can be compared to Mt. Krakatoa minus the lava.
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If you already know the following then just ignore it. There are different techniques to vaping just as there are different techniques to smoking. I agree that you are over-niced because of the high nic percent and the chain vaping. Most of the nic that goes into your bloodstream is absorbed by the mucosa in your mouth and "bronchs".....VERY little, if any, through your lungs. A vaping draw should be done sort of like sipping a drink through a straw and not by taking a long, large hit. You can choose to draw the vape into your mouth, hesitate with it there for a couple seconds and inhale or not. Even after 4 years I sometimes decide not to draw the vapor into my lungs. To demonstrate this take a vape slowly and inhale. Don't exhale immediately......count slowly to 5, exhale and there won't be any visible vapor. Holding the vapor for a short time is normally done to "stealth vape". The other technique is "lung inhale" normally done by cloud chasers. Instead of holding the vapor in your mouth then inhaling, take the vape directly into your lungs. If this is done with heavy amounts of VG, low Ω, and high watts you can be compared to Mt. Krakatoa minus the lava.
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Thanks for the info. I like the cloud, so I do draw into my lungs, but play with it in my mouth as well for taste. I made me some with a bit higher vg and 16 nic. And I made some pure vg/pg just to try vaping with the other mixes (between them as they are high nic) to see if I still get the face stinging. My skin is supper sensitive and I recall having the same problems with Kool cigs...back in the day.@seapeach I am often accused of having an "Oz complex" in that I frequently give advice when not requested. So here I am.
If you already know the following then just ignore it. There are different techniques to vaping just as there are different techniques to smoking. I agree that you are over-niced because of the high nic percent and the chain vaping. Most of the nic that goes into your bloodstream is absorbed by the mucosa in your mouth and "bronchs".....VERY little, if any, through your lungs. A vaping draw should be done sort of like sipping a drink through a straw and not by taking a long, large hit. You can choose to draw the vape into your mouth, hesitate with it there for a couple seconds and inhale or not. Even after 4 years I sometimes decide not to draw the vapor into my lungs. To demonstrate this take a vape slowly and inhale. Don't exhale immediately......count slowly to 5, exhale and there won't be any visible vapor. Holding the vapor for a short time is normally done to "stealth vape". The other technique is "lung inhale" normally done by cloud chasers. Instead of holding the vapor in your mouth then inhaling, take the vape directly into your lungs. If this is done with heavy amounts of VG, low Ω, and high watts you can be compared to Mt. Krakatoa minus the lava.
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Glad you stopped in kari!! sounds like you have a good enough excuse for not bothering with use here lately. hope you enjoy your vacation from all those vacations!
Well I sure don't need a vacation from you folks - I do have to read every day or I go thru withdrawals
I just need to get talking more Nice to meet you too Peach! and thanks. The affording part is definitely the hardest. Had to tell my husband that if we keep going like this year we are going to run out of money real quick. I think he just had to get a bunch of travel in during times he never could when he was teaching and school was in.
Thanks for posting the flamingo that you mixed the other day. I keep trying to find a mix with TFA juicy peach - because I would love to be able to vape a yummy peach and I bought a 30ml bottle of the flavoring because I was sure I was going to love it. Well until I tried the flamingo that you posted - I hated every recipe I previously tried. I mixed some up last night and so far it is tasting pretty good
Question folk with sensitive skin might be able to address. Mine is ultra sensitive. Did not have any trouble vaping pre-mixed pg/vg in 70/30 with 18 mg nic. Made first DIY with new 99% pure 100mg/ml nic from Wizard. Crystal clear, no smell, slight taste. After vaping a good vape all day, by night my face was stinging. I tried a cool cloth, with no relief. No ENT problems. Just skin on face. I use Este Lauder morning moisturizer. At night, good old-fashioned Ponds cold cream, followed by moisturizer...My skin is seldom dry. Any thoughts? All I did different was bump the nic up to 20 mgs.
Peach - just my take on this. In the last few years I have found (even before vaping and quitting smoking) that the skin on my face had become more sensitive to the creams I was using - even when they were really expensive good creams. Found I had to even switch brands after 2 or 3 purchases of any brand.
Then when I quit smoking and started vaping - for a while it didn't seem to matter what brand of cream - I was having issues with a fine rash on my face. I too had increased my water intake - tried washing my face more often, then less often and nothing seemed to help.
So I just kept switching brands..... now it has been 2 1/2 years and I find that it is only if I am vaping a lot more than normal that I get some of the slight rash problem occurring again.
I started with 18mg high pg and found it way to harsh. I dropped right away to 15mg in 40pg/60vg. However, had to switch to 50/50 because when I first quit smoking I found higher vg left me with a heavy feeling in my chest and a lot of phlegm.
Now higher vg doesn't give me the heavy chest - just an increase in phlegm and feeling like I have to clear my throat a lot. I have decreased over time to 3mg but continue to pretty much stick with 50/50 and rarely some 40pg/60vg in a melon mix that seems to taste better with the higher vg.
So long story - but in my case I think the face/skin issues were because of an increased intake of both pg/vg and until my system adjusted I kind of had to just tough it out. I guess I should have tried not using any creams - didn't even think to try that.
Thanks Dancing - I have been reading (lurking) just not doing much talking. I am hoping with staying home for awhile now - maybe I can "visit" a little more often.
Funny how things go - I come from a family that had 4 girls then 2 boys. I then had 4 boys and 1 girl. Of my sisters the first 3 of us all had boys first and then the sister next to me stopped after 3 boys. So my Dad started complaining after 8 grandsons - was he ever going to get a granddaughter
He did eventually get 5 of them Now history repeating in the opposite fashion - I thought I would never have a daughter and here we go with lots of granddaughters....
Ok enough talking ..... going to wear out my welcome
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