Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part 2

[ncpatches]

Cotton is your friend!

Oh, here's some more information overload. This spreadsheet seems to get updated regularly for wire gauge, wraps, and what size you're wrapping around for what Ωs to expect. (And don't forget your results may/can vary a bit from all these posted numbers, that's why I said, keep notes).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiaRSDxC1vG6dC1HZEtmY0pPYzBvdUw2blJHVjdkc1E&usp=sharing#gid=0

The thread is here where I found it.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/446263-micro-coils-ohms-description-22.html#post12289433

Cotton and google docs are my friends! Thank you!

The name of the application within Libre Office that opens .xls files is Libre Office Calc. I'm able to use Libre Office to open the file by right clicking on the file and selecting Libre Office from the "open with" choices.

Open Office will also work. I don't grok how or why Libre Office is better than Open Office, but the people who say that Libre Office is better sound like they know what they're talking about, so I have both. Something about the original developers of Open Office having moved on to establish Libre Office.

Thank you! The right click - open with didn't even occur to me. I got it!

Now I have both charts and have no clue what I'm looking at, but i got 'em! I'll figure it out since I have something to refer to.

Thank you all!

 

[garyoa1]

try opening the program, then do the file-open to see if you can open it

well... Not everyone can AFFORD to purchase MS office... Like other MS programs, people target it for virus attack, and these open source projects make life fun for everyone involved. Weather they write them or ask for a particular functionality.

Well, yeah. Just sayin' someone back a while said it was a word program. Just trying to clarify that it's an excel program.

 

[ncpatches]

The pin can be a problem. I sometimes get them out by wedging fingernails under opposite sides, and wiggling it out. You can also get round nose needle nose pliers. Bead supply or hardware stores for that. They don't have the ridges of regular, so don't damage the pin, and one side can go into the pin hole.

I get 2.2 to 2.4 Ωs wrapping 8/7 with 32 gauge Kanthal A1 on a 4/40 machine screw. Wrap in the direction of the thread pitch, and you'll have perfectly evenly spaced turns.

And sometimes I'll lay my wick along a straightened out paper clip, where practice is needed to get even coils. But similar to the blunt needle, leave the whole thing together until the legs are fastened down and the pin is back in.

I like to recoil my Kanger styles with silica so I can dry burn a few times, but use cotton yarn for flavor wicks. I tend to wash the whole thing every fill or so, and pull the chimney when I do to see if a dry burn is desired. Flavor wicks get replaced a lot on my porch

What does 8/7 mean? I see those type of numbers but don't understand them.

 

[Legolas]

What does 8/7 mean? I see those type of numbers but don't understand them.

7 or 8 wraps on the screw

 

[ncpatches]

7 or 8 wraps and the screw

Maybe it's info overload. I understand 7 or 8 wraps, but not 'and the screw'.

 

[DavidOck]

Since both ends of the wire need to go down, you can't have just 8 or 7. That would have them pointing opposite directions. So you could say something like 7 1/2 wraps... although it might be more like 7 3/4....Make any sense?

 

[Legolas]

What does 8/7 mean? I see those type of numbers but don't understand them.

In some other post it is the size of the drill bit IE: 5/64 or 2mm. 4/40 is the size and thread of the screw

 

[1wildman]

My pet peeve is why do they call it a flavor wick. It is a bad fix for flooding since the stock has crappy coils. The flavor wick mutes the taste and inhibits vapor production. With the exception of the dragon coil you don't but any wick on top of your coil for any other build. Good coil / good wick then no need for a wick on top.


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[ncpatches]

Since both ends of the wire need to go down, you can't have just 8 or 7. That would have them pointing opposite directions. So you could say something like 7 1/2 wraps... although it might be more like 7 3/4....Make any sense?

Yes, I think I got it. I understand that you can't actually have a full number of wraps because half of the end loops goes off to the screws, right? Or did I just confuse myself more?

 

[Legolas]

Maybe it's info overload. I understand 7 or 8 wraps, but not 'and the screw'.

That and was my bad it should have been on the screw .... so sorry

 

[ncpatches]

That and was my bad it should have been on the screw .... so sorry

Trust me, nothing you could say would confuse me any worse.

I am through! Brain pain! I'll come back to the subject of rebuilding at a much later date.

 

[Legolas]

Yes, I think I got it. I understand that you can't actually have a full number of wraps because half of the end loops goes off to the screws, right? Or did I just confuse myself more?

This video is exactly what Dave is talking about.
Machine screw coil wrap for Vivi Nova / Kanger T3 - YouTube
Funny thing is this guys name is Dave too. Sometimes it is easier to see it

 

[DavidOck]

Yes, I think I got it. I understand that you can't actually have a full number of wraps because half of the end loops goes off to the screws, right? Or did I just confuse myself more?

Off to the screw posts on an RBA, down through the "case" on the Kanger styles. In neither case can they successfully point the same direction

And if you use the screw to wrap, when you're happy with the coil, just unscrew it gently. You can use plumber's teflon tape to point the end of the wick, or if you want to wiggle the wick through doubled, make a loop from some extra Kanthal, or a floss threader.

 

[Jake6731]

Perhaps it's just that I'm a getting a bit dense, but all this coil talk is about to drive me nuts..(in my case it's a putt, not a drive). This is not rocket science IMO. Get piece of some gauge wire (I use 28), wrap it around something (I always use the same something), count the wraps, and check the ohms. Too low, add more wraps next time. Too high, use less..Easy Peasy

 

[AndriaD]

I'm still trying to catch up but this caught my eye. Andria, when I got sober (8/27/79), my sponsor said: "You're head is broken, don't use it!!" When I started vaping, I kept my cigarettes in the shop in a drawer in a tool box. I allowed myself to smoke whenever I wanted to but I had to make the trip out to the shop. The first few days it was 1/2 pack, down from 1.5 ppd. WOW.

Over a very short period of time, which included learning a lot here, I was actually going to the shop for other reasons and not smoking a cigarette. WOW. I gave the last 1/2 pack to my wife who complained that they were stale.

I think you are well on your way to letting the stinkies go. The persistence you showed with your bad connection is proof enough.

Thanks. I'm 3 days smoke-free now. I won't say I never THINK of those cigarettes, but I don't crave them, which, honestly, surprises the hell out of me. If I feel anything even remotely close to a craving, I hit the iTaste; if it's not QUITE satisfying, I crank the voltage or wattage just a tiny bit, to give me a better throat hit, and that seems to do the trick.

The last week I smoked, I gave myself permission to smoke whenever I felt like I really NEEDED to do so; even with the eRoll, quite anemic compared to this iTaste, the only time I ever really felt I NEEDed to smoke was in the morning. I've fixed that now, by having the iTaste in my room with me while I get dressed, so I can vape before I ever even open my bedroom door, and I also increase the nic strength just a little for the first tank. All that seems to be working very well.

My coughing has ALREADY decreased considerably. As my lungs get cleaner, I hope that my asthma will also improve, and I won't need to use my inhaler as often.

3 days smoke-free and loving it...
Andria

 

[Jake6731]

And I forgot to add this to my previous post. There is a coil calculator (if you want to do all that scientific stuff) that runs in a Web browser. No Excel/Office required. You can find it here: PV Web Apps

 

[Myrany]

K, I have the Kanger Protank 2, and I watched Busardos video on how to change the wick, and he makes it look so easy, but how do you guys get that pin out? you know you take the little plastic/rubbery thing off and he just pulls the pin thing so he can see the wicks, but I can pull till it freezes over ( oh wait, just looked outside, it has ) and it doesn't budge! Im afraid to use pliers or anything to hold it with, cause I might mess it up Also, I would like to go to a VV/VW device upgrade from my Evod... any suggestions?

A serious tug and fight. I leave the head in a base and grab plyers fir the chimney

The bottom pin you kinda gotta grab and tug or push it out from the coil side (I use a knitting needle)

 

[misswish1]

Thank you, ncpatches, for starting this discussion! And to all of you that gave your knowledge and experience so generously! I'm not
there yet, but probably not that far away, to trying my hand at coils. My notebook is starting to bulge but that's a good thing!
It's probably a good thing y'all are far, far away from me when I get started playing with fire!

 

[MikeE3]

Do you prefer it over cotton ball wick?

I think for wicking and particularly if you are chasing clouds cotton may have the edge. For clean flavor, I give it to Nextel. But I get a perfectly satisfactory vape, even multiple back to back draws with the Nextel so ig wicks fine in a Kayfun or a Genny and I'll take Nextel over cotton 'cause i can just dry burn to clean it up. No fiddling to re-wick it.

What does 8/7 mean? I see those type of numbers but don't understand them.

Assuming you have both 'ends' pointing in the same direction, then looking from one 'side' you'll count 8 wraps. Turn it 180 degrees and you'll see 7 wraps.

Perhaps it's just that I'm a getting a bit dense, but all this coil talk is about to drive me nuts..(in my case it's a putt, not a drive). This is not rocket science IMO. Get piece of some gauge wire (I use 28), wrap it around something (I always use the same something), count the wraps, and check the ohms. Too low, add more wraps next time. Too high, use less..Easy Peasy

E-x-a-c-ack-tal-eee!

Keep it simple. I don't use any of those calculators, etc. Just wrap it and see what I get. Then re-do, if I'm not happy. That's why I told NC to keep notes, though. Then when she finds what she likes - don't have to depend on the 'ol mind remembering.

 

[Doughboy67]

Way to go Andria!!! You're doing awesome. You'll think of having a smoke less and less as time goes by. It's just a habit and a reflex. Just keep hitting the vape every time you feel the urge and it will be satiated.