For FTA I see some flavours have the favour and pg , now I'm thinking about the ratios to mix and what i would add to it.
Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part 2
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DO NOT start out with 4oz bottles. Try here Wizard Labs Little sizes to figure out what you like first.
I mix unflavored base to make 100 ml, and then add flavoring to smaller amounts as needed.
Recommendations vary between manufacturer and flavor. There are charts available. Best to go here DIY E-Liquid to find those charts.
Recommendations vary between manufacturer and flavor. There are charts available. Best to go here DIY E-Liquid to find those charts.
I buy nic in PG because it seems to last longer. There is a calculator to to figure everything out, let me find it. There are others too that people can chime in on. Hang on.
Here http://ejuice.breaktru.com/ It does take some tinkering with to learn it, I still forget to adjust all the numbers correctly sometimes, but others probably don't have that problem.
Here http://ejuice.breaktru.com/ It does take some tinkering with to learn it, I still forget to adjust all the numbers correctly sometimes, but others probably don't have that problem.
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I thought this was the 55 and over forum. If they haven't heard it by 55 they need to seriously consider moving out of the convent.
This fine print is a not so subtle reminder to always read the fine print before signing anything.
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I agree. WL carries flavors from a bunch of companies and small bottles so you aren't stuck with 4oz of something you can't stand. As far as I know the ship everything you order in one package. Always have with my orders anyway.
This fine print is a not so subtle reminder to always read the fine print before signing anything.
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I buy 100mg nic that's cut with PG. Then mix it down to what I want when mixing my small batches.
This fine print is a not so subtle reminder to always read the fine print before signing anything.
I would be a little surprised if I can't find a video where an attempt is made to duplicate the original build, so that the performance would be the same. A very short "slide show" video that I watched, though, called the original wick a "mystery material".
I did have to take a nap during that one.That's what the pause and replay buttons are for.
Nicotine usually comes in either a PG base or a VG base. You may be able to choose a 50/50 base at some sites. I buy mine in a PG base.
I buy nic (in PG), PG, and VG then mix them all up to create my *base*. I mix it so that once I add 10% flavoring it will come out to 12 mg/ml nic at about 80/20 PG/VG. That way all I have to do is add flavoring when I'm ready and don't have to handle the nic so often.
I mostly mix tobacco flavorings at 3% and others at 10%. But, it's always good to start low and add a little at a time to find your own sweet spot for each flavoring.
Plus, some flavorings are stronger than others, some are 'super concentrated'. It's best to ask around or find one of the charts that's floating around ECF to get recommendations for each brand and each flavoring.
Once you know what you like, it just takes a few minutes to mix it up.
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Great Thread. Smoked about 3/4 a pack a day for about 17 years. When I was younger I had quite a few lung issues and was told it wouldn't be a wise idea to ever smoke. Didn't listen to this advice though, and began smoking in my later teens. I even quite 2 times during that period, once for 2 months during basic training and once for over a year. Both times stress led me back to cigs. The last few years were getting rough as I began to see why I shouldn't have ever of started smoking. I have been around allot of smokers who smoked much longer than me, were much older than me, but didn't have as bad a smokers cough and wheezing issues as I was experiencing. Then one day I got a coupon for a free vuse and right then and there I decided it was time. The vuse sucked, btw. Its only been 27 days but I no longer have a constant cough and don't wake up coughing up brown crap, I also don't go to bed wheezing and hacking anymore. For anyone considering quitting they should at least give vaping a try, it has been a great experience for me thus far.
LOL, yeah, I've heard that.
Welcome to the porch satkizzle!
Congratulations on the 27 days and to feeling much better. It continues getting better too.
I knew before hitting the post button that my response was "spirited". I was apologizing not for what I said, but for the way I said it. I was fully aware that the post to which I was responding had gotten me riled up. Call that insincere if you'd like.
Still waiting on parts from China for Nautilus #1, but Nautilus #2 is working great. I've mentioned previously that it's likely that I broke Nautilus #1 myself, when I first got it, disassembling it for cleaning without knowing which parts were supposed to separate and which parts weren't. 22 to 24 mg/ml nicotine ever since day 1. I don't have a motivation to reduce it.
(Thanks for the vaping-related stuff.)
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OK, clearly I'm in the minority here about buying 4oz bottles of flavor But here's my reasoning. Yes, you will occasionally get stuck with 4oz of a flavor you don't like. You can reduce this risk in two ways:
1. Only buy the TFA versions of flavors you know you like already. You have a large collection of juices at this point, so you know if you like Blueberry (for example) already. Or, you know if you can't stand Vanilla Custard. So, buy the TFA flavors that are a close match for what you already like.
2. Read the ratings and reviews on the DIY liquid thread. If a sizeable number of people are talking about how great a TFA flavor is, and you know you like that flavor in your premixed juices, then it's probably pretty safe. On the other hand, if lots of people are complaining that the TFA flavor isn't good, then don't buy it even if it's a flavor you love in your premix (or, buy a tiny bottle to try it out).
Now, I admit that even when you follow these two simple principles, you will get stuck with some "bad" flavors. However, even that is not a catastrophe because some flavors that are bad on their own work well to compliment other flavors, other flavors get better with a little steeping, and if worst comes to worst, you can alway mix up a batch of sugar cookies and use up your bad flavors that way. Plus, you can always donate your flavors to other local vapers, or swap for flavors that they don't like, that you haven't tried.
The reason I personally think it's worth the risk is that $8 is basically the cost of one 30ml bottle of premixed. I've bought more bottles of premixed that I hated than I've bought bottles of flavors that were completely useless, so the economics work for me. The cost of 8ml of TFA flavors at Wizard Labs is $1.50. Or, for $6.50 more, you can get 120ml direct from TFA.
Not trying to change anyone's mind here, just trying to share a differing viewpoint.
But here's my reasoning. Yes, you will occasionally get stuck with 4oz of a flavor you don't like. You can reduce this risk in two ways:1. Only buy the TFA versions of flavors you know you like already. You have a large collection of juices at this point, so you know if you like Blueberry (for example) already. Or, you know if you can't stand Vanilla Custard. So, buy the TFA flavors that are a close match for what you already like.
2. Read the ratings and reviews on the DIY liquid thread. If a sizeable number of people are talking about how great a TFA flavor is, and you know you like that flavor in your premixed juices, then it's probably pretty safe. On the other hand, if lots of people are complaining that the TFA flavor isn't good, then don't buy it even if it's a flavor you love in your premix (or, buy a tiny bottle to try it out).
Now, I admit that even when you follow these two simple principles, you will get stuck with some "bad" flavors. However, even that is not a catastrophe because some flavors that are bad on their own work well to compliment other flavors, other flavors get better with a little steeping, and if worst comes to worst, you can alway mix up a batch of sugar cookies and use up your bad flavors that way. Plus, you can always donate your flavors to other local vapers, or swap for flavors that they don't like, that you haven't tried.
The reason I personally think it's worth the risk is that $8 is basically the cost of one 30ml bottle of premixed. I've bought more bottles of premixed that I hated than I've bought bottles of flavors that were completely useless, so the economics work for me. The cost of 8ml of TFA flavors at Wizard Labs is $1.50. Or, for $6.50 more, you can get 120ml direct from TFA.
Not trying to change anyone's mind here, just trying to share a differing viewpoint.
Doing some catchin' up here, welcome to the new folks! Just a word of caution Ginger, the Iffster may have an ulterior motive in pulling up that "cushioned" rocker for ya, his idea of a cushion tends to differ from the norm....
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When I started out I always wore gloves, but now the only time I wear gloves is when I mix with 100mg nic. Of course I do my mixing next to the kitchen sink so if I get any juice on me I rinse it off right away. I also rinse off the bottles once they're capped because no matter how careful I try to be when pouring there's usually a drip or two down the side.
Welcome to the porch Ginger! Lots of good people here from all stages of their vaping journey and all are more than happy to help if you have any questions. So, what are you vaping with these days?
The 4 oz bottles from them are only if you register for bulk purchases. Otherwise you can get as little as 4ml of the flavors. I just buy the 4 oz size of the flavors that I use all the time so I'm not constantly having to reorder.
Welcome Satkizzle! Isn't it wonderful to not be hacking all the time? Pretty exciting! Wait till the doc listens to your chest and says to take a deep breath and you can actually do it! Woohoo! And then you can do the happy dance!
Are you still using the Vuse or have you moved on to something better?
Welcome Ginger .... What kind of equipment are you vaping with ? Someone here is bound to be using the same
Whoa ... first off, what strength of nicotine do you use ??
What % of PG/ VG do you generally order in your juice ??
If we knew a little more about your preferences, we could narrow down the info we need to throw at cha
And BTW, ... never make a 30ml recipe until you have tried it in a small 2-3ml "test" batch.
Wow, 27 days, ..you have made it over the hurdle.
Welcome to the "know it all" crowd ... (kinda like when you were a teenager) ... only difference is our "know it all" came from "been there, done that"
Pull up a seat, and park it, you found the best thread.
This is good advice, but keep in mind that some flavors change as they age (steep), so if you find a small batch that's acceptable, try making 30ml and put it away for a while before you make a large batch. I like making 100ml large batches in a graduated cylinder because the math is really easy. ml equals percent. So, if I want 8% of this flavor, I add 8 ml. 5% of this other flavor is just 5ml. If I want 14mg nic, I add 14ml of 100mg/ml nic solution. Then, I just top it off to 100ml with VG, put it in a 4oz amber round, slap a label on it with the recipe, and I'm good to go. The math is little trickier with a 3ml batch or a 30ml batch.
Oh. BTW, I personally like as much VG and as little PG as possible. Your Mileage May Vary.
There you go again. The rest of us can make 38ml batches and use a calculator.
But yeah, maybe two small batches 3-5ml and let one steep. I'm always too impatient to wait, much to my detriment.
There you go again. The rest of us can make 38ml batches and use a calculator.
But yeah, maybe two small batches 3-5ml and let one steep. I'm always too impatient to wait, much to my detriment.
Real engineers use a slip stick. But, I misplaced mine a few moves ago, so now I have to do all the calculations in my head
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