Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part 5

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Kenna

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Yea, that is part of it, but I like to change flavors up also and get bored of 4 or 5ml of the same flavor... I don't keep 2 or 3 toppers filled at all times - the one I am vaping is the only one that has juice in it...
I'm down to one (occasionally 2) flavors. One topper & others wicked & ready.

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Same for me but I know why. Usually by the time I get to the bottom of large tank the juice is dark and doesn't taste as good. A smaller tank requires refill more often but the juice stays "fresher".

I suspect that your rig is "cooking" the e-juice. You may be vaping at too high a temperature (TC rig) or too high a Wattage (conventional VV or VW rig). E-juice surrounding the atomizer is easily cooked and darkened (and flavorings may be degraded) if the shell of the atomizer in the middle of the tank gets too hot.

Back when I was vaping much weaker (nicotine-wise) e-juice, I learned that I had to rotate between as many as three rigs (a few puffs, set the rig aside, a few puffs on the next rig, set that rig aside, and so on until the first rig had cooled enough to be used again). If I chain vaped on a single rig, it would get too hot to touch, it would burn my lips, and it would cook the e-juice into a nasty brown sludge. (And I do mean chain vape - a puff every minute or so, or even oftener, without letup for 18 to 20 hours a day and wake every hour or so for a few puffs during the night.) You may not chain vape like that, but if your atomizer is getting too hot, it WILL cook your e-juice in the surrounding tank.

My solution (after I switched to extremely strong e-juice) was to vape at very low Wattages (8-10 Watts) or very low temperatures (230˚C - 450˚F) with my TC rigs. My tanks (3 to 5 ml) remain clear indefinitely even though I frequently refill when there is still as much as 1/3 of a tankfull left.

There is another solution if you feel you need to vape at very high temperatures: squonking. With squonking, most of the e-juice remains cool in a remote tank while the atomizer is re-cooled by a fresh flood of e-juice (most of which is then drained away) before every puff (or series of puffs). I haven't tried squonking myself, but some folks seem to like it.
 

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Guess what I ordered?

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I suspect that your rig is "cooking" the e-juice. You may be vaping at too high a temperature (TC rig) or too high a Wattage (conventional VV or VW rig). E-juice surrounding the atomizer is easily cooked and darkened (and flavorings may be degraded) if the shell of the atomizer in the middle of the tank gets too hot.

Back when I was vaping much weaker (nicotine-wise) e-juice, I learned that I had to rotate between as many as three rigs (a few puffs, set the rig aside, a few puffs on the next rig, set that rig aside, and so on until the first rig had cooled enough to be used again). If I chain vaped on a single rig, it would get too hot to touch, it would burn my lips, and it would cook the e-juice into a nasty brown sludge. (And I do mean chain vape - a puff every minute or so, or even oftener, without letup for 18 to 20 hours a day and wake every hour or so for a few puffs during the night.) You may not chain vape like that, but if your atomizer is getting too hot, it WILL cook your e-juice in the surrounding tank.

My solution (after I switched to extremely strong e-juice) was to vape at very low Wattages (8-10 Watts) or very low temperatures (230˚C - 450˚F) with my TC rigs. My tanks (3 to 5 ml) remain clear indefinitely even though I frequently refill when there is still as much as 1/3 of a tankfull left.

There is another solution if you feel you need to vape at very high temperatures: squonking. With squonking, most of the e-juice remains cool in a remote tank while the atomizer is re-cooled by a fresh flood of e-juice (most of which is then drained away) before every puff (or series of puffs). I haven't tried squonking myself, but some folks seem to like it.
I appreciate your suggestions! I don't do TC, and the average watts is 10, sometimes up to 11.5 for a low (1.2 - 1.3, never below 1 ohm) so I don't know. I do have 3 REOs, but I don't use them much since my thumb injury.

I am very happy with my smaller RTAs and really don't mind filling more often
 

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Same for me but I know why. Usually by the time I get to the bottom of large tank the juice is dark and doesn't taste as good. A smaller tank requires refill more often but the juice stays "fresher".

The reasons I have discovered to why juice darkens toward the bottom of a almost empty tank is that your vaping at a higher power so the chimney or metal is heating up thus caramelizing the juice, the less juice in the atty to dissipate the heat just gets hot and darkens. The other is your coil is cocooned and time to replace..your having to heat up the cocoon in order to vaporize the juice and again heating up all the surrounding area burning the juice and extra stress on the batts. Don't salvage the couple mls of dark juice, all it will do is contaminate the new juice turning it dark along with giving it a off taste in time. Toss that dark juice. I get a ring of dark juice along the bottom that looks like its oozing from the juice holes in my STM's..tell tale sign that the coil is toasted. Using rayon and not having the wick plug up until dryhits the dark ring besides the burnt taste is my only sign of the coil being spent.
 

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The reasons I have discovered to why juice darkens toward the bottom of a almost empty tank is that your vaping at a higher power so the chimney or metal is heating up thus caramelizing the juice, the less juice in the atty to dissipate the heat just gets hot and darkens. The other is your coil is cocooned and time to replace..your having to heat up the cocoon in order to vaporize the juice and again heating up all the surrounding area burning the juice and extra stress on the batts. Don't salvage the couple mls of dark juice, all it will do is contaminate the new juice turning it dark along with giving it a off taste in time. Toss that dark juice. I get a ring of dark juice along the bottom that looks like its oozing from the juice holes in my STM's..tell tale sign that the coil is toasted. Using rayon and not having the wick plug up until dryhits the dark ring besides the burnt taste is my only sign of the coil being spent.
Exactly I always figured it was like heat steeping your liquid. If I haven't steeped my liquid long enough this works well for that and still tastes fine in fact better. But I use TC so it doesn't get quite as hot as straight power.
 
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