Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part 5
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May the wind be always at your back,
May the sun shine warm upon your face,
The rains fall soft upon your fields and,
Until we meet again,
May God hold you in the palm of His hand.
@Myrany, great to see you and I empathize with your plight. My parents are declining rapidly mentally and physically, both have taken ambulance rides lately, and I worry like crazy for them. I wish you well, you are never alone here.
Picked your post primarily at random. I was having a bad problem with the bottom of the tank just getting nasty/harsh, lately. The nic I was using had turned quite "golden." It was from '13 or '14 but I also think that shipment came during the summer that year and was a bit brown when it arrived. I assumed at the time is was because it sat out in the heat on a tarmac somewhere, or several somewheres. When I used a "newer" batch of nic, the problem went away, completely. Not disagreeing with the other reasons it could be fried, that was just my experience. I use mostly unflavored.
When I went looking it said the offer was only for new customers?
"When I went looking it said the offer was only for new customers? "
I have purchased many times over the years and never had a problem ordering a sample
"I have purchased many times over the years and never had a problem ordering a sample
When I went looking it said the offer was only for new customers?
I, too, have purchased several times and was able to order the free sample. Hasn't arrived yet, but I'm sure it will.
I think that's correct, but a 60 ml order from either Nude Nic or from Liquid Nicotine Wholesalers is just about the same price. For larger quantities, Liquid Nicotine Wholesalers is less expensive.When I went looking it said the offer was only for new customers?
I have 60 ml of nic salt nicotine liquid from LNW but I haven't yet tried. I thought it would be an impossibility, but my 15 ml sample of "Smooth" nic salt liquid from Nude Nic resulted in a joose that has too little throat hit for me, and I have to adjust it by adding joose that has more PG. I haven't yet tried the nic salt liquid that I got from LNW. It is less expensive in quantities greater than 60 ml than the nic salt liquids from Nude Nic.
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Br John Castle
ECigIntelligence reports that the U.S. Food & Drug Administration is preparing to enforce its cutoff date of August 8, 2016 for new vapor products through inspections of manufacturers and retailers. Any vapor products found to have to been created after that date, as per the “deeming rule”, may be confiscated. This would include products created in, and received from, foreign markets such as China.
Per the ECigIntelligence report:
“The FDA has asked for bids on a contract to provide “Vape Inspection” services. The agency is prepared to spend $23 million over a five-year period to verify compliance, and has published a detailed list of items inspectors will be searching for. The contract specifies inspections of manufacturers (which also includes any vape shop that makes e-liquid on site), but the Tobacco Control Act allows gives the FDA authority to inspect all “establishments engaged in the retail sale of FDA-regulated tobacco products.” That could include any vape shop or online seller.”
Manufacturers and retailers have a number of options for proving that their products comply with the cutoff date. For example:
The report goes on to speculate that some, perhaps many, manufacturers and retailers will have “pre-established” some products by introducing them for sale before the cutoff date, then withdrawing them from shelves, in order to further develop them before re-introducing them in their final retail-ready form. No negative consequences for manufacturers or retailers suspected of this practice are discussed in the source reporting, and since the source offers this possibility only as speculation, it might safely be assumed that no mechanism for detecting whether this has occurred exists.
Inspectors will additionally take note of products which appear to be misleadingly or inaccurately labeled, and will be taking photographs of product for further evaluation.
Br John Castle
ECigIntelligence reports that the U.S. Food & Drug Administration is preparing to enforce its cutoff date of August 8, 2016 for new vapor products through inspections of manufacturers and retailers. Any vapor products found to have to been created after that date, as per the “deeming rule”, may be confiscated. This would include products created in, and received from, foreign markets such as China.
Per the ECigIntelligence report:
“The FDA has asked for bids on a contract to provide “Vape Inspection” services. The agency is prepared to spend $23 million over a five-year period to verify compliance, and has published a detailed list of items inspectors will be searching for. The contract specifies inspections of manufacturers (which also includes any vape shop that makes e-liquid on site), but the Tobacco Control Act allows gives the FDA authority to inspect all “establishments engaged in the retail sale of FDA-regulated tobacco products.” That could include any vape shop or online seller.”
Manufacturers and retailers have a number of options for proving that their products comply with the cutoff date. For example:
- Dated copies of advertisements
- Dated catalog pages
- Dated promotional material
- Dated trade publications
- Dated bills of lading
- Dated freight bills
- Dated waybills
- Dated invoices
- Dated purchase orders
- Dated customer receipts
- Dated manufacturing documents
- Dated distributor or retailer inventory lists
The report goes on to speculate that some, perhaps many, manufacturers and retailers will have “pre-established” some products by introducing them for sale before the cutoff date, then withdrawing them from shelves, in order to further develop them before re-introducing them in their final retail-ready form. No negative consequences for manufacturers or retailers suspected of this practice are discussed in the source reporting, and since the source offers this possibility only as speculation, it might safely be assumed that no mechanism for detecting whether this has occurred exists.
Inspectors will additionally take note of products which appear to be misleadingly or inaccurately labeled, and will be taking photographs of product for further evaluation.
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Sign me up I'm ready to take some of those millions off their hands. Plus I have some experience.
Got my nic. Got the smooth and mixed up some flavorless at 12mg, can't even taste or feel it. I do get a slight tickle in my throat so we'll see how it goes. I put around <1ml flavored 5mg juice and 4 ml of the unflavored in a tank. So far so good.
Thank you @mackman and @clnire! So, don't believe everything I read? @bigbells, going whole hog into this I see. Looking forward to seeing your reviews. At this point it's just a matter of curiosity for me and will go with what @2legsshrt got based on his assessment so far. The whole nic thing has me worried again though I should be okay for a very long time.
FDA crackdown thread is here FDA Crackdown....
Possible flavor ban here Possible incomming Flavor Ban
@DancingHeretik 's 7th is here 7 Year ECF Anniversary
Bulk Apothecary sale here Are you done stocking up?
@bigbells, going whole hog into this I see. Looking forward to seeing your reviews. At this point it's just a matter of curiosity for me and will go with what @2legsshrt got based on his assessment so far. The whole nic thing has me worried again though I should be okay for a very long time. FDA crackdown thread is here FDA Crackdown....
Possible flavor ban here Possible incomming Flavor Ban
@DancingHeretik 's 7th is here 7 Year ECF Anniversary
Bulk Apothecary sale here Are you done stocking up?
I got kicked out of the phone company because I had a vaporizer in my front pocket. I guess he saw the Bulge in my pocket. He asked what it was. I told him it's an electronic cigarette. security guard warns me he was going to call the cops so I told him do what you got to do. So the idiot calls the police. I told him I don't know what you're going to tell the police but I wouldn't want to be in your spot. He got nervous and headed into the building real fast.
Police show up.
The police asked me mister do you have a problem here? I said no he said that I couldn't take my Vape in that building. So the cops asked me where is he? I said he's inside somewhere. They we're very ...... off. They took him in a back room.
Poor guy I kind of felt bad for him. I wish I was a fly on the wall. But I had a very exhilarating time. Today.
It's not against the law to have a vaporizer in your front pocket.
Hardy har har!
Police show up.
The police asked me mister do you have a problem here? I said no he said that I couldn't take my Vape in that building. So the cops asked me where is he? I said he's inside somewhere. They we're very ...... off. They took him in a back room.
Poor guy I kind of felt bad for him. I wish I was a fly on the wall. But I had a very exhilarating time. Today.
It's not against the law to have a vaporizer in your front pocket.
Hardy har har!
Yep thats the way my mom got before the end. Now I'm worried I am getting like my parents, still have my mental faculties sort of. Just don't mention the T word around me. I lose it then.My parents are declining rapidly mentally and physically, both have taken ambulance rides lately, and I worry like crazy for them. I wish you well, you are never alone here.
Glad you stuck around to talk to the police. I would have been willing to buy a ticket to be in that room and see what happened.
No, you've hit a speed bump in that RV of yours and it will take a wee bit for it to stop jiggling. You hang in there Legs, you're a fighter and we are not giving up on you. And don't forget the 4th of July Porch International Hop-Scotch Compitition. My money is on you to win.
But I get it, I'm still surprised I'm alive after all I went through last summer. I'd even told my husband where all my vape stuff was supposed to go and what a certain porcher was to do with it. It's not fun having to face your mortality, it leaves a mark, but modern medicine kicks ..... We're all here for you.
Well Fastech's living up to their reputation. 8 days since I got a 'your order has shipped' email, the tracking status is:
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Pre-Shipment
Origin Post is Preparing Shipment
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Pre-Shipment
Origin Post is Preparing Shipment
You may see that until it arrives at your door.
Oh!? - I don't remember how my previous orders tracked. This is only about the 3rd time I've ordered from them. And the last one was a very long time back.
Iirc I had that happen once, prepping until I got the USPS notice it was out for delivery. YMMV, and probably will...
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