Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Four

[MattB101]

Can anyone recommend a cheap, decent butane torch? I've had it with using my old lighter (which gets hot). I want cheap. But, I want it to work reliably and safely also.

Harbor freight has one that's cheap for around 8 bucks. Got on of the tiny pencil torches for $3.

Butane Torch - Save on this Butane Micro Torch

Pencil Torch

 

[MattB101]

I tried a torch, and was not happy with it. I don't have enough hands. I heat up that kanthal running it quickly between my fingers to the lighter. Then I give it another run. Seems sufficient without excessive heat on the lighter.

I use the torch I posted. Hold the kanthal in a pair of hemostats and pull it through the flame. i want it to glow so it'll burn off any contaminants and carbonize a little bit. Works well and no burned fingers. Sometimes I'll stretch it between two pair, only takes about 15 seconds.

 

[Kenna]

Yes. I'm gonna have to grab me a paperclip and give it a try. It would be so cool for it to be that easy. I'll let you know.

It is exactly that easy. Just let the paperclip spin freely as you turn the knob.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

RANT!!!

Hey azzhat (via office clerk), I know what H.R. 2058 is! That's why I contacted you for support. Never mind... just keep on monitoring...

Nov 25 10:46 AM

Dear Mr. Caldwell:


Thank you for contacting me regarding H.R. 2058, the FDA Deeming Authority Clarification Act of 2015.


Introduced by Representative Cole, this legislation would limit the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) ability to regulate electronic cigarettes, or e-cigarettes. While the FDA currently regulates cigarettes, cigarette tobacco, roll-your-own tobacco and smokeless tobacco, the agency has proposed regulating products like e-cigarettes and cigars. The proposed FDA rule has been submitted to the White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB), and final regulations are expected within the next year.


I will continue to monitor the situation as it develops. Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future.


Sincerely,

Bill Nelson

rant off

And he didn't even say he'd keep your thoughts in mind, how low can you get? Seriously though, I'm pretty disheartened by the responses people have gotten. I just love the Dick Cheney "simile" -->

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Do we not need to get it to glow red?

Some people are moving away from blast-furnacing the wire up front due to unknown degradation of the wire (and what might be inhaled as a result). I wish I could point you to the thread but can't remember the title. It was long. Think it started off with something Dr. F had mentioned but what I say here is hearsay without the link. Some don't torch at all, some do it a little to get rid of manufacturing residue, others just blast away. Personally, I was very disappointed not to have a good reason to buy a mini torch. Wal-mart used to have one for about $8 but seem to have discontinued them.

I've started using this technique. Works perfectly everytime! @Rotowoman should try this when she gets started, too. Anyone with hand issues can wrap a coil on any coiler with this.

Easy way to make perfect coil.

Thank you for reposting that video link, I've been looking for it with no luck.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

Happy Thanksgiving everybody! Iffy will be serving up dinner on the main deck at 5pm EST.

 

[Kenna]

Happy Thanksgiving everybody! Iffy will be serving up dinner on the main deck at 5pm EST.

Happy Thanksgiving Tutu!

 

[bigbells]

That 2-day sale at 101vape.com started 28 minutes ago. $26 coilbuilding kit and 2-for-$8 Samsung 20A 18650 batts, as well as other things.

 

[clnire]

It's about 2" wide and 3 1/4" tall. But, since it fits a Kayfun in the side compartment, it doesn't also have a big thing sticking out on top of the 3 1/4"!

Here it is next to a MicroStick in 18500 configuration.

May I ask what it is?

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

 

[yiddleboge6]

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[MikeE3]

I still torch Kanthal before winding coils. I'm not concerned about glowing it before winding as I glow them when dry burning to clean them. So they'll glow eventually anyway.

I clamp forceps to one end. Pick up the other end w/ small pliers, holding it vertically using the forceps dangling at the other end. Then run the torch down and up the wire. The weight of the forceps helps to tension the heating and cooling wire to 'pull' it tight and straight. Then wind the coil. Maybe I just like 'playing' around but that's the way I do it.

The only difference I've noticed in my coils w/ torched and un-torched wire, is the un-torched wire's coil is very slightly higher in it's Ωs when done. I figure the un-torched wire is a tab more springy and the coil diameter is every so slight bigger than torched wire.

If I don't torch the wire before coiling, I clean it with alcohol.

 

[Ken_A]

Happy Thanksgiving to all of us in the U.S.
and Happy Day to everyone else!!!

Maybe I don't need one, I guess. It's working so far. Plus, maybe I torch a little more than necessary.

I haven't been able to wrap a satisfactory coil on my coil winder thingy yet. I've tried a few. But, they come out overlapped and a mess. So, I'm wrapping on a small screwdriver for the time being.

I've got the same issue. fortunately, I have one that was done at the last vape convention when I bought my very cool coil master set, and I managed to actually make one that works after several tries and fiddling to get the overlaps gone.

ok on the coil winder I had the same problem then I figured out that the free end of the wire has to catch in that little nub on the bottom of the part you turn. Once I got that worked out I got perfect coils every time. Unless it catches you will get overlapped wraps.

ya... easier said than done for me. but I will be watching a lot of these videos in the next month until I can get it right.

 

[DancingHeretik]

May I ask what it is?

It's an XvoStick Clone from FT. A VV/VW/TC side-by-side style mod. The authentic is made by the same people that make the MicroStick.

Some people are moving away from blast-furnacing the wire up front due to unknown degradation of the wire (and what might be inhaled as a result). I wish I could point you to the thread but can't remember the title. It was long. Think it started off with something Dr. F had mentioned but what I say here is hearsay without the link. Some don't torch at all, some do it a little to get rid of manufacturing residue, others just blast away.

Yup, I remember that thread. Very long and lots of arguing.

Personally, I was very disappointed not to have a good reason to buy a mini torch. Wal-mart used to have one for about $8 but seem to have discontinued them.

Campfire? BBQ? Deadly weapon?

I still torch Kanthal before winding coils. I'm not concerned about glowing it before winding as I glow them when dry burning to clean them. So they'll glow eventually anyway.

I clamp forceps to one end. Pick up the other end w/ small pliers, holding it vertically using the forceps dangling at the other end. Then run the torch down and up the wire. The weight of the forceps helps to tension the heating and cooling wire to 'pull' it tight and straight. Then wind the coil. Maybe I just like 'playing' around but that's the way I do it.

The only difference I've noticed in my coils w/ torched and un-torched wire, is the un-torched wire's coil is very slightly higher in it's Ωs when done. I figure the un-torched wire is a tab more springy and the coil diameter is every so slight bigger than torched wire.

If I don't torch the wire before coiling, I clean it with alcohol.

I knew there was a reason I had forceps on my Amazon wish list. I just couldn't remember it while I was placing my other order.

Or, I could use alcohol then burn it off to torch it?!

 

[DavidOck]

Thank you, David. I'll give it a try. Wish me luck!

Luck!

Another potential source of such a "washer" would be to sacrifice the pin grommet from, say, a Kanger single coil head. Might be easier.

 

[MattB101]

Happy Thanksgiving to all of us in the U.S.
and Happy Day to everyone else!!!


I've got the same issue. fortunately, I have one that was done at the last vape convention when I bought my very cool coil master set, and I managed to actually make one that works after several tries and fiddling to get the overlaps gone.


ya... easier said than done for me. but I will be watching a lot of these videos in the next month until I can get it right.

I had coil master problems before I caught on watch Busardo's recoiling videos and noticed that he wrap a couple of turns by hand before he used the tool to wrap the rest. I think it raises the wire high enough that the little nub can catch it. Then a steady downward pressure and wallah, perfection.

 

[MikeE3]

I had coil master problems before I caught on watch Busardo's recoiling videos and noticed that he wrap a couple of turns by hand before he used the tool to wrap the rest. I think it raises the wire high enough that the little nub can catch it. Then a steady downward pressure and wallah, perfection.

You also have to have a light touch on the piece you are turning and very lightly/gently move it away from the coil you are wrapping. If you don't "let it" move 'away' is when you get the overlapping wraps. It's easy to inadvertently be putting pressure on the turning piece of the tool pushing it into the wraps causing wraps to overlap.

 

[2legsshrt]

I was just looking at the new software for the SXML. Does about everything the DNA does but much simpler. It even says you can insert your own logo. Pretty cool.

 

[2legsshrt]

Buy and SX M class at Vapor Kings $100 all they have left is Black&Silver and Silver&Black. What a deal Ni and Ti modes adjustable TCR.

 

[3mg Meniere]

I had coil master problems before I caught on watch Busardo's recoiling videos and noticed that he wrap a couple of turns by hand before he used the tool to wrap the rest. I think it raises the wire high enough that the little nub can catch it. Then a steady downward pressure and wallah, perfection.

Doesn't make sense for me, since I only use five wraps for a 2.5Ω coil.

 

[2legsshrt]

You also have to have a light touch on the piece you are turning and very lightly/gently move it away from the coil you are wrapping. If you don't "let it" move 'away' is when you get the overlapping wraps. It's easy to inadvertently be putting pressure on the turning piece of the tool pushing it into the wraps causing wraps to overlap.

It also helps if you have your wire straight and at a diagonal to the device once you get the first wrap then no pressure just turn.

 

[2legsshrt]

It's really a piece of cake once you get it down any type of wire works great.