Give A Snit Prescription?
Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Four
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@disallowedword Well you probably already know what I think is the best mod out there. The SXmini M class. Very accurate nickel and titanium modes, manual TCR adjustment, temperature compensate. It is really amazing. You have the ability to use virtually any wire in production and most on TC although I've heard SS is not a real accurate wire for that. The biggest problem with it is the finish but put a YiHi sleeve on it right away and that is solved. Not the finish it will probably still turn to crap. The ML is supposedly got the finish fixed but I would be skeptical but the best chip on the market for the money. The DNA200 is even more advanced but if you watch the review by PBusardo 3 parts and counting. You can adjust everything but super complex unless you are a computer geek. I fell asleep halfway through part 2. Oh and some of the battery caps on the SX's are a PIA
I don't agree, Legs. There are some who like the TC. I have zero interest in going there. I do have a TC mod, but only because Hana stopped making anything without it, & it's difficult to find mods without it unless you go mech. As far as I'm concerned, that feature will never be used as long as I can get Kanthal. If vaping gets too technical it becomes a pita to me. It won't be easy, vape-n-go & I'll go back to smoking. The non-TC option needs to remain. More power = more battery life for me, but subohm, TC & 100 watts I have no use for.
I wish that new Provari had the SX350L chip in it, It is fantastic looking. Plus the quality Provape puts in their stuff I'll bet it would be another that would last for ever. True you don't need TC but they will also work just like the Provari. I see the firmware is upgradable in it so maybe they have something in the works.
I think that TC is going to become the standard. They are coming out with wires that are very similar to Kanthal. Once you wrap your coil and get it set up with the right settings you just vape it, don't have to change anything. You can dry burn them and they taste better and give you a more constant vape with the right TC Mod and like I said you can go back to Kanthal if you wish, no problem. This new NiFe52 is supposed to be the best thing around it is actually called nifethal. But it has nickel in it so if you are sensitive it would be a no go.
Could be, Legs, that soon all regulated mods will be TC capable. But watching the rapid evolution of it... well, I'll let others work through it for me! Once it's a "mature" tech, I may look again.
As a tootle puffer I have no need at all to worry about dry hits.
Does TC even work at 8 watts?
Does TC even work at 8 watts?
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Newp it's not, but just because we all finally saw the light, many others unfortunately, never will. I have the same sadness regarding my sil and nephew. My sil has played with vaping a few times, but if lung cancer didn't make her give vaping a real effort, I don't reckin anything will. It's ironic and sad that she's the one that introduced me to vaping.I want him to live for his wife, children, grandchild and future grandchildren. And I want him to be able to help his son quit. That's not asking much, right?
lol when I taught stamping classes, all my fellow demonstrators had the same issue. Hubbys with a garage full of tools, yet they'd always find a great stamping tool to abscond with!He has a large tool chest stuffed full of tools and he has to steal mine? What is it with you guys?
that sorta makes sense. Mine only stopped doing it when the mouse was plugged in, and I had the puter set to make the touch pad totally turn off when the mouse was plugged in. Again, may not be your issue, and I see yur fixin to not have to worry bout it til the next trip. Have a wonderful and safe trip home!
Welcome Frank!!! (if you've been here before, ignore me....these other forgetters just think they know how to forget stuff, I'm the champ!! If forgetting was an olympic event, I'd bring home a platinum medal!!). If you are indeed new to our lil corner of the forum...... welcome.....pull up a comfy chair in a cozy spot, and tell us bout yourself.
They're mutant freaks!
Many say they did that a long time ago, but being made here, they can't put out new, different, bells and whistles every month or so like China can with cheap crap. They are what they are, a reliable, well built, American made mod that'll last ya nearly forever. Kinda like Reos. They serve a niche for those who do want all that I mentioned, and don't care so much about all the bells and whistles. I agree with Kenna, many will likely never go for TC or it will at least take them quite awhile to get there. I don't even want a chip in a mod anymore, much less a TC. I'm just really glad that there are companies who offer high tech for those who want it, and ones that specialize in sturdy but simple for those who want that.
As long as the wire reaches temp. I use just enough power to get to temp but some people set it as high as it will go. When it reaches temp it automatically throttles back to hold it at just the way you like your vapor and holds it there. I think it is eventually going to be as easy as putting your atty on setting the temp you like and the mod will do the rest, like automatically sensing the type of wire you are using and setting the TCR for that wire and getting the temp right. It's really moving fast. The DNA200 is crazy complex though. But you can set things on it I didn't even know existed. I think pretty soon instead of setting watts or volts you'll just set temperature. I sent an email to Busardo and asked him if it, the DNA200 would set my clock on my VCR that has been flashing for 20 years. he set his so instead of it saying no atty it says put an atty on dumb ....
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They're mutant freaks!
I do believe I have enough "junk in the trunk" to qualify.....
I don't suffer from C R A F T.......
What he ^ said.
I guess I spent the last couple years chasing the 'next best thing'. And that's the way TC and the different wicking wires appears to me right now ... every week the 'next best' wire/chip/mod appears on the market. I've got 3 TC mods but only use 1 in TC mode. I'll continue to watch it but now I just want to 'Vape it' and not be concerned about the techie side of it.
And maybe when it 'matures' we'll actually have true TC. Right now it's really "TL" temperature limiting. When the chip decides the set temperature is hit it throttle's back power. It's not really maintaining the 'set' temperature, just not letting you exceed it.
Mike, I've heard people say that before, but I fail to see the difference between Temperature Control and Temperature Limiting.
In either case, the mod applies power and stops applying power to reach and maintain the temperature that is set. I can see on the display screen of my TC mods that the power cycles off each time during a drag that the temperature is reached, then cycles the power on and off over and over again to keep reaching/maintaining that temperature.
That is how any thermostat works. Since a thermostat turns whatever off and on to maintain the selected temp automatically, that is probably the way the situation will remain. However, who needs automatic, when you are in control of the button? I am a puffer, not a deep long lung inhaler, so the complexity and expense and new shiny are irrelevant to me.
I prefer the consistency of the vapor from one pull to the next with TC and find it more sensible than pressing and releasing the power button multiple times during a single pull of vapor from my device. The chip in my mod can control temperature a lot more effectively than I could, and my reflexes aren't fast enough to press and release the power button as fast as the TC devices do.
But, I'm not about to argue with those who say they don't need it. I don't need it either, but I like it.
For what it's worth: TC doesn't work the same way as a conventional thermostat. TC uses changes in electrical resistance to determine change in temperature. A conventional thermostat uses temperature-induced changes in the rates of expansion of two different metals. But those are only the simple home thermostats with which I'm familiar. Maybe the newer fancier ones due it all electronically, I don't know.
Some people are excited about the possibility of TC vaping devices measuring actual temperature, but it will add to the complexity of the hardware. I kind of like the current method that uses software to determine the temperature based on pre-programmed resistance curves.
Ok ... I kind of retract / temper my statement. I wasn't trying to bash or be critical of how TC is working, maybe just too picky the way I stated it. I do notice a somewhat 'smoother' vape when vaping w/ TC. Sometimes I like it and sometimes I like getting more TH from my conventional Kanthal coil vape. For me (and YMMV) I consistently and mainly grab my non-TC mods, so for me it 'says' I prefer them.
Bigbells said "But, I'm not about to argue with those who say they don't need it. I don't need it either, but I like it."
Yep ... that's what makes the choice in vaping so good today. There's plenty of options out there to find what works, what you like. (but the flip side .... much more of a learning curve for the newbie if they don't have a good mentor or local vape shop to get them started)
By the way, some of you might find this amusing: I've often wondered why we have to have expensive fuel-consuming internal combustion engines to power our vehicles.
Why not just put a knob on the speedometer cable spindle, so you can just set the speedometer needle at whatever speed you'd like? I'm still working on the prototype.
Why not just put a knob on the speedometer cable spindle, so you can just set the speedometer needle at whatever speed you'd like? I'm still working on the prototype.
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