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That worries me! I gotta play music and then get to sleep! Ever since the time change I have been off kilter! 
Night, Vapers! 
Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Four
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That worries me! I gotta play music and then get to sleep! Ever since the time change I have been off kilter! Night, Vapers! 
It's funny how many people look at that diagram and freak out. I wonder if the average person looks at their car engine and just thinks 'witchcraft!!!'I've got a clone (forget who) but, I don't care for it much. Works good but I find them way too "fiddly" for my taste. The expanded diagram reminds me of a tech manual for a jet engine!
Like Myrany said, with the coil jigs it really is as simple as being able to turn a knob and thread a needle so to speak. There is some finessing as you get better at it, but that's the basics to make it work. DIY juice can also be very simple. One of the best ways for us to help you with anything you're interested in is to come into the google hangout.
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Many of us go in there at some point each day. Just keep checking if no one is in there. Sometimes some of us will just sit in there and wait for folks to come in while we check our threads etc. You can be on camera or not, but you do need a microphone. We can talk just like being on the phone. find out exactly what you want/need, and explain about various devices etc.
Welcome to the porch!!
Some do, wouldn't hurt to ask any of em.I wonder if other vape establishments price match?
that's why I went to Reos, and I've never looked back. They give me everything I want and I know they'll last longer than I will.Hardware mechanical devices with changeable batteries and rebuildable toppers are the most sustainable. Hence I got my REOs.
You might be surprised
When I was a kid I once asked my dad to change the record in the record player of the car. He said there isn't one in a car. I said yes there is under the hood. He said ok lets look. I pointed to the big round thing where the air filter goes. Mind you this was a 1962 New Yorker so the metal container for the air filter was big enough to be a record player.
I myself don't really shy away from complex builds really but after mucking with a few different devices there just are some I have no desire to fuss with again. Anything that requires steel mesh is high on my list of I will only use again in extreme emergency. Also on the list are my 2 kayfun clones. Those are such a pain to get the cotton right in to avoid either leaking or dry hits. Such devices are tucked safely away in the vapocalypse box and will likely be the LAST things used.
Now if you REALLY want fiddly muck with the Diver.
As did I.
The one thing that I really did learn on ECF that was not in many of the videos is managing the Ohms of my builds in relation to the battery I am using for safety reasons. I don't know if the more recent videos have changed but back when I was learning many of the people doing the video's didn't really talk about that. They just assumed that if you were building coils you already knew it.
For me I just visualize all the inner workings of the engine. But that is just me.
Math is sorcery though.
That's funny, my Kayfuns are the easiest things I have to rebuild and wick. They are perfect every time.You might be surprised
When I was a kid I once asked my dad to change the record in the record player of the car. He said there isn't one in a car. I said yes there is under the hood. He said ok lets look. I pointed to the big round thing where the air filter goes. Mind you this was a 1962 New Yorker so the metal container for the air filter was big enough to be a record player.
I myself don't really shy away from complex builds really but after mucking with a few different devices there just are some I have no desire to fuss with again. Anything that requires steel mesh is high on my list of I will only use again in extreme emergency. Also on the list are my 2 kayfun clones. Those are such a pain to get the cotton right in to avoid either leaking or dry hits. Such devices are tucked safely away in the vapocalypse box and will likely be the LAST things used.
Now if you REALLY want fiddly muck with the Diver.
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Good morning all. (moves to sit) Here in AZ the sun is just arising and showing the earthy colors on the mountains. Coffee and Strawnilla is good. Gotta walk the dog soon.
I built coils for awhile & yeah it is easy & yeah the flavor is great..........All my rebuildables are put away now & I puff on my naughty attys. Guess I'm just a dirty old geezer.
What do you have that you like better? Just curious. You know I'm stocking up for the Vapocalypse.
Matt, I have Russian 91%, Russian V2.0 (w/ the twist base for air flow), KFL Lites, KFL V4's, Taifuns, and ErlPrinz's. The R91% come closest to what I like for air flow. Looser than a KFL-Lite and not as airy as the KFLV4. But ... all my R91's seep juice down the 510 post/channel so they have to be cleaned/dried at each re-fill. I've tried everything and was never able to cure that 1 issue.
The Russian V2.0 and Taifuns vape really nice but are 'big' toppers. They're Ok for around the house but I don't like carrying them around.
I really like the KFL V4's but they are just a 'bit' on the airy side for me. I also stay away from these as the 'standard' around here because I try to stay w/ toppers that Janet can maintain too. If she every had to totally disassemble one completely and put it back together she'd probably give up.
That said - even though the KFL V4 has a lot of parts - on a day to day basis, for me anyway, it's just a simple/easy to use as any other topper. And no tools for refilling.
All that said - I vape a lot w/ the KFLV4 and when not using it either an R91 or KFL-Lite.
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Honestly I think it is the crappy clones I have that make them such a nightmare. Someone told me the little divits on the side of the deck for the juice to come up are not deep enough on mine. Makes em finiky.
<- has a degree in math LOL
Really though coil building is not rocket science (though dealing with steel mesh builds might be)
Me too Myrany ... and after college I don't think I ever had need of knowing Laplace Transformations, Quadradic Equations yet alone Saddle Points or being able to prove 1,000,000,001 follows 1,000,000,000.
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I did. I used to teach high school calculus.
I do have to say though until I started building coils I never understood how to APPLY ohms law. I knew it. I could teach it (also taught physics) but I never really had anything outside the purely theoretical with it.
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