Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Four

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Kenna

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I understand, though, how ecf can get to you. Deb wields her frying pan with love and a great deal of warm-hearted humor. Others, in other threads, not so much sometimes. Having been on the receiving end, and having felt as though I was banging my head against a brick wall, I feel for Mattie. It can be hard - and exhausting - to remember that words are easily misunderstood without the benefit of face to face conversation. Harder still when folks' perspectives are diametrically opposed. Healing takes a little time, but it comes. And as I have come to know, the Porches will be waiting with open arms.
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Thanks everyone. I am sitting here on my corner of the porch, crying at the moment but it is because I am happy to know that there really is a place for me here on the porches where I won't be judged harshly. I had been having some very bad days/weeks and had gotten so very tired. I am feeling a bit better today and it is thanks to all of the kind words all of y'all have shared with me. :wub:
 

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Thanks everyone. I am sitting here on my corner of the porch, crying at the moment but it is because I am happy to know that there really is a place for me here on the porches where I won't be judged harshly. I had been having some very bad days/weeks and had gotten so very tired. I am feeling a bit better today and it is thanks to all of the kind words all of y'all have shared with me. :wub:
{{{{{{Mattie}}}}}}. It's good to see you, here! The porches are a wonderful place, aren't they?! Now don't go wandering off :)
 

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Thanks everyone. I am sitting here on my corner of the porch, crying at the moment but it is because I am happy to know that there really is a place for me here on the porches where I won't be judged harshly. I had been having some very bad days/weeks and had gotten so very tired. I am feeling a bit better today and it is thanks to all of the kind words all of y'all have shared with me. :wub:
Yes, yes, yes! Just stay where you are loved and appreciated for who you are and what you are. Those haters are just jealous because they are not as good and loved as you.
 

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Ya know, Matti. Sounds like you ran into a bunch of trolls. Don't take it personal. It's their job to inflame and insult. They live for that. I've run a few boards in my day and been on a billion. They are a real problem.
The odd thing about the porches is, we've had very few. Yes we have had them. Didn't notice? I did. But they don't hang out long. Because this is family. You attack a family member, you get attacked right back. :)
 

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Thanks everyone. I am sitting here on my corner of the porch, crying at the moment but it is because I am happy to know that there really is a place for me here on the porches where I won't be judged harshly. I had been having some very bad days/weeks and had gotten so very tired. I am feeling a bit better today and it is thanks to all of the kind words all of y'all have shared with me. :wub:
Mattie, every warrior needs a break to rest & recoup in order to beable to fight again. It's not good to require your mind & emotions to stay in constant battle ready mode. You don't want to get stuck like that, which is where ptsd comes from. Your entire being needs to rest occasionally. And you don't have to fight every battle. Choose wisely. Trolls are not in a serious arguement. They make deliberately provacative, carefully crafted, statements & throw them out as bait in a pool (forum) that's already known to be full of fish (emotionally invested vapers, voters, or whatever) & then proceed to reel in the ones that take the bait. Then, once they have your attention, they proceed to poke & push, & bully. All this is not because they necessarily believe or are at all invested in the subject being discussed. They do it for pure self satisfaction. Pure narcissistic hunger for attention of any kind. Those who agree, as well as those who disagree, & happily influencing those curious & just seeking to learn. They get everyone going & turning on each other & sit back & bask in the glow of mayhem. They have no vaping agenda even tho they probably do vapen since they found this place some way. They are just playing. It's a sport for them. A sport like the knock out game that ypu see on the news. Except none of it involves physical risk. No one can reach them to knock the crap out of them. Which is what they deserve. It's all mental & emotional. And for some it's devastating.
Recognize the troll. Do not engage or feed the troll. Point out the troll as a warning to others. Walk away, stop reading, get out of the pool, & do not engage no matter how much you want to. Report them so that the Moderators can observe what's going on & act if needed. There is no winning an arguement with a troll. They just keep dragging you back into their crazy.
Please stay here with us a bit & recoup & heal. These are not battles, they are traps. If you go from trap to trap you get pretty chewed up & gain nothing for anything or anyone. Then you can't help the ones who truely need it. That's just sad for everyone that sees it. And those threads remain on the ECF forums & newbies come in & read them & walk away. Not just from ECF, but from vaping too. Who wants to hear how great a community is, & get there only to find a battlefield?
So many vapers on ECF love, & respect you, Mattie. You are a great advocate & educator & the vaping community needs more like you. Stay, heal, & live to get back to a place where you can continue to do what you do so well. BTW, the only way to win against a troll is to not bite. they hate to be ignored.
 
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And on a lighter note...
I was not satisfied with the vape stand I made...
It was a mash-up of someone else's Lighthouse and my Vape stand, so wasn't totally mine.
THIS is totally mine! Hand-painted and really nice, IMO:
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and if you want to see the steps and some better pictures of just the stand, just check my photobucket.
Lighthouse by greypiffle
 

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And Mattie, you should never have to worry about yourself here. We are all tolerant of differing opinions.

as far as vaping in public (a favorite bash topic)...
I will vape in public. If I'm just out walking the neighborhood and there may be children present, I don't vape. Unless it's after 6PM. Any child out after that will just have to ask mom and dad what is going on.
But I have no problem vaping form the parking lot to the store, or walking down the sidewalk, or just sitting on a bench.
Other people don't feel comfortable with that, and that's O.K. THEY don't have to be in MY head. Thank goodness I don't have to be in theirs either.
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It's neat that about a month ago I was Tootling along with my Kabuki Tank and a couple of Aspire Tanks. No Sub Ohming tried it wasn't my thing. But now I'm up to speed and comfortably on track to staying Cig Free. Thanks for all of the quick info. SAVE! I'll still see ya around I've found it's the way to stay strong during those weak moments in life and help others while seeking your own strength.
VAPE ON! And always enjoy the journey:):thumb:
 

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Thanks everyone. I am sitting here on my corner of the porch, crying at the moment but it is because I am happy to know that there really is a place for me here on the porches where I won't be judged harshly. I had been having some very bad days/weeks and had gotten so very tired. I am feeling a bit better today and it is thanks to all of the kind words all of y'all have shared with me. :wub:
Hi Mattiem, I don't think we have met, so I would like to welcome you to the porches. There are a bunch of really nice folks here as you have already found out. This group of folks has been very instrumental in helping me put down the analogs and learn the subtle art of vaping. Pull up a chair and relax with our wonderful vaping family.
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Hi Mattiem, I don't think we have met, so I would like to welcome you to the porches. There are a bunch of really nice folks here as you have already found out. This group of folks has been very instrumental in helping me put down the analogs and learn the subtle art of vaping. Pull up a chair and relax with our wonderful vaping family.
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Thank you Diver. I have been very remiss in sticking around on the porches and I vow to remedy that. I was actually here at the very beginning, when the porches were first built and through all of the remodeling. I think I wandered away from my roots and seemed to have lost my way. I am happy to be home.
 

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And on a lighter note...
I was not satisfied with the vape stand I made...
It was a mash-up of someone else's Lighthouse and my Vape stand, so wasn't totally mine.
THIS is totally mine! Hand-painted and really nice, IMO:
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and if you want to see the steps and some better pictures of just the stand, just check my photobucket.
Lighthouse by greypiffle
Ohhh! You changed it all around! I like this better! Good job, Ken! How long did it take to do?
 

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