Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Three

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Debadoo

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Hummm. I'm using a 1.8 BVC coil in my Billet Box and usually vape at 4.25-4.75 volts. On the P3, I'm often as high as 5 volts, with either a 1.8 or 2.0 coil. And on the mech (the mod about which we don't speak), I use a .5-.8 coil (depending on how off my build is!). (I'm using Sony VTC5's, so I'm assuming its safe ...) That said, when I DO set watts, I have noticed that the volts change all by themselves, depending on the coil. Who knew?! (I really must get an "Electronics for Dummies" book!)

These charts were all the rage a couple years ago.....and at 1.8 it says you shouldn't go to 4.0v or above or you could melt the nichrome wire or something else. I assume melting the wire means you'd pop your coil, but not sure. Oh, and I get the book after you!

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I give up, Deb, that just kicked my brain into derp mode.

Yeah......I still don't really get it either. Higher watts = higher volts. Cuz moving your watts up does move your volts up automatically. But cooler volts??? so it still stays safe to vape at higher watts/volts??? I think we're kicking the fellers brains into derp mode by our ignorance!! lol Papa sure has his work cut out for him tomorrow, or later tonite!! lol
 

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Yeah......I still don't really get it either. Higher watts = higher volts. Cuz moving your watts up does move your volts up automatically. But cooler volts??? so it still stays safe to vape at higher watts/volts??? I think we're kicking the fellers brains into derp mode by our ignorance!! lol Papa sure has his work cut out for him tomorrow, or later tonite!! lol

I think Sloth has class tonight until 9pm. Don't quote me on that. Unless his students have done him in, he should be here later.
 

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Unless his students have done him in, he should be here later.

if they didnt........we surely will!!! apologies in advance papa! Keep waiting for the day all the fellers here and some of the techy women, all get together to sign a petition to ban women vapers unless they have AT LEAST a basic electronics course under their belt. :laugh: But seriously, those of us a little slower on the uptake truly appreciate y'all patience in explaining things a million or so times til we finally get it.
 

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Holy Moly, mother of roly polys, an RTA?!! For me?? It's not that I'm not handy with tools and I do understand the concept. It's just the time factor. I've been thinking about it, but...........but............but.............I don't know.

I did get the tank problem solved though. It was just like Kenna said. The coil wasn't screwed in tight enough. Oh, and thanks for the tips you guys. I do know about the center pin sometimes going down to far. That's the first thing I checked. I do clean my pin and other assorted goodies with alcohol. I have all the Q-Tips a girl could ever want or need here AND at work. Hell, at work, I have access to every cleaner and solvent known to man. NOT that I would ever use ANY of that stuff on my vaping equipment. I'm crazier than a lunatic, but not THAT crazy.

Right now the tank is once again vaping like a champ, especially since I stuck it on top of that marvelous Sentinal m16. I couldn't resist. I HAD to try it.
 

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Holy Moly, mother of roly polys, an RTA?!! For me?? It's not that I'm not handy with tools and I do understand the concept. It's just the time factor. I've been thinking about it, but...........but............but.............I don't know.

I did get the tank problem solved though. It was just like Kenna said. The coil wasn't screwed in tight enough. Oh, and thanks for the tips you guys. I do know about the center pin sometimes going down to far. That's the first thing I checked. I do clean my pin and other assorted goodies with alcohol. I have all the Q-Tips a girl could ever want or need here AND at work. Hell, at work, I have access to every cleaner and solvent known to man. NOT that I would ever use ANY of that stuff on my vaping equipment. I'm crazier than a lunatic, but not THAT crazy.

Right now the tank is once again vaping like a champ, especially since I stuck it on top of that marvelous Sentinal m16. I couldn't resist. I HAD to try it.

Yay! Troubleshooting win! Nothing like figuring out why something that should be working isn't!
 

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Actually roto.......probably not that much time at all. I was thinking the same thing at first..... but with so many saying 1 coil will last 2-3 months many times..... just rewicking every few days and dryburning once a week or something. Doesn't really seem all that bad. the part I do like about it is......I know what my wick is made of! and way cheaper than always having to buy coils, or take a chance of running out of them. I don't really like the AGI that I have now that I've use it, at least not as a dripping atty, gotta figure out how to do it as a tank and try that.

But......now I'm sorta becoming interested in Reos. Helpppppppppp meeeeeeeeeeeee lol I'm feeling feverish and pretty sure I'm coming down with the bug! lol
 

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Actually roto.......probably not that much time at all. I was thinking the same thing at first..... but with so many saying 1 coil will last 2-3 months many times..... just rewicking every few days and dryburning once a week or something. Doesn't really seem all that bad. the part I do like about it is......I know what my wick is made of! and way cheaper than always having to buy coils, or take a chance of running out of them. I don't really like the AGI that I have now that I've use it, at least not as a dripping atty, gotta figure out how to do it as a tank and try that.

But......now I'm sorta becoming interested in Reos. Helpppppppppp meeeeeeeeeeeee lol I'm feeling feverish and pretty sure I'm coming down with the bug! lol

For me it's more of a time factor thing. I'm not retired or even semi-retired as much as I would LOVE to be and should be. People say to me all the time, "You SHOULD have time. You have seven days off at a time." Yeah, sure I do, but I can fill those seven days with things to do like there's no tomorrow. Those seven days off fly by. Speaking of which, I'm going back out for seven days tomorrow. In this weather, I'm dreading it.


 

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For me it's more of a time factor thing. I'm not retired or even semi-retired as much as I would LOVE to be and should be. People say to me all the time, "You SHOULD have time. You have seven days off at a time." Yeah, sure I do, but I can fill those seven days with things to do like there's no tomorrow. Those seven days off fly by. Speaking of which, I'm going back out for seven days tomorrow. In this weather, I'm dreading it.

Here's a word for you to practice and I don't mean for coil builing. It's "no." You know, just say no. No, no, no, nope. Ain't gonna do it, nope sir. Yes to coils, no to the man. Take an extra week off for yourself and tell them the assignment you want is in the Bahamas. :D
 

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yeah that time off really flies by. A million and 20 things to do. I wasn't thinking about your job, so yeah, taking out an atty and screwing another one in sure makes it simpler. Glad that things are working better now and helping with the cravings!! Hope you can stay warm when you go back out. Lots of hot soup, coffee and cocoa!!
 

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yeah that time off really flies by. A million and 20 things to do. I wasn't thinking about your job, so yeah, taking out an atty and screwing another one in sure makes it simpler. Glad that things are working better now and helping with the cravings!! Hope you can stay warm when you go back out. Lots of hot soup, coffee and cocoa!!

Forget the hot soup, coffee and cocoa and just take brandy. Someone said the two shots of hard liquor will cure vapers tongue tout suite so it will minimize packing plus keep you warm and happy.


Little Bird, keep meaning to tell you I love the new avatar. :)
 
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Here's a word for you to practice and I don't mean for coil builing. It's "no." You know, just say no. No, no, no, nope. Ain't gonna do it, nope sir. Yes to coils, no to the man. Take an extra week off for yourself and tell them the assignment you want is in the Bahamas. :D

Yeah, I'd love to, but that's what I work. I work a 7/7 rotation. I work for 7 nights, and then I'm off for 7. It really is like having a vacation twice a month, but on my days off I do doctor's appointments, housecleaning, laundry, sometimes help my daughter grade papers, and the list goes on and on an on. I need a doggone cruise!!
 

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yeah that time off really flies by. A million and 20 things to do. I wasn't thinking about your job, so yeah, taking out an atty and screwing another one in sure makes it simpler. Glad that things are working better now and helping with the cravings!! Hope you can stay warm when you go back out. Lots of hot soup, coffee and cocoa!!

Chile, the coffee is a given! LOL I cooked two pots of soup and am taking some with me when I go. The vaping bag is packed, and the tanks are ready to go. Plus, I'll be the one looking like an eskimo on the flight line.

 

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Forget the hot soup, coffee and cocoa and just take brandy. Someone said the two shots of hard liquor will cure vapers tongue tout suite so it will minimize packing plus keep you warm and happy.


Little Bird, keep meaning to tell you I love the new avatar. :)

lol yeah I was thinking about Brandy or some other libation as I typed that, but with her working around chopper blades......I figured that soup and coffee was much safer!!
 

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These charts were all the rage a couple years ago.....and at 1.8 it says you shouldn't go to 4.0v or above or you could melt the nichrome wire or something else. I assume melting the wire means you'd pop your coil, but not sure. Oh, and I get the book after you!

http://www.ecigadvanced.com/community/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/power.jpg

Ah, the charts :)

Written long ago, in a much simpler time. Pre variable anything not rebuildable.

And without air flow control.

They were done to suggest reasonable ranges for the low power fixed voltage batteries, and for the limited airflow clearos, and still are a good starting point for those types of toppers. But with increased air flow more power is ok, and maybe beneficial. And we have the adjustability to keep it a tasty vape..

While it's unlikely to actually melt the kanthal, it was more to prevent burning the wicks and juice. (And yes, actually melting out the kanthal would be one example of popping a coil.)

Watts is the power used. A 1500 watt heater will put out more heat than a 500 watt one, if both have the same voltage. Easy to picture. And they're made for a specific voltage, 120 VAC in this example. If you could give them a lower voltage, they'd put out less heat. A higher voltage would put out more heat. As long as you don't change the resistance of the heater.

Or, at our 120 VAC, if you could wind a new resistor for the heater, you could change the power / heat. Not real practical, tho. But if you could vary the resistance, you could live with the change in warmth, or just keep changing the voltage until you got as warm as you want, i.e. the same heat as before.

What VW control does is automate that voltage change for you.
 
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