Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Three

[PapaSloth]

I am almost done cleaning my FT clone V4. After it's first soaking in the ultrasonic cleaner it came apart easily. Ran it through 15 minutes with Dawn Dishwashing liquid in hot water. Two hot water rinses and now it's soaking in Vodka. Will run the cleaner for another couple of cycles then a couple more hot water rinses. Set it out on a paper towel to dry. Put it back together, coil it and wick it up then we will see how it vapes. Do I want to leave out the air control screw? Thoughts?

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Wow, your cleaning regimen is hard core Must be the navy training I usually just rinse min, wipe everything with a paper towel, and then convince myself that the cleaning oil taste is like "new car smell."

As far as air control screws, I like a lot of air flow and have yet to find an atty where the air control screws were good for anything other than keeping the liquid from draining out in the event of flooding, and since all of my mods are flush mount, even that isn't very useful. Your mileage may vary.

 

[MattB101]

Wow, your cleaning regimen is hard core Must be the navy training I usually just rinse min, wipe everything with a paper towel, and then convince myself that the cleaning oil taste is like "new car smell."

As far as air control screws, I like a lot of air flow and have yet to find an atty where the air control screws were good for anything other than keeping the liquid from draining out in the event of flooding, and since all of my mods are flush mount, even that isn't very useful. Your mileage may vary.

This the first time it's been cleaned. I got it in vape mail last week and this is the first time I have had the time and motivation to clean it for use. Gotta get all the machine oil and crud off of it before vaping.

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[bigbells]

Your schools were far better than mine. I think most of it was growing up in the wrong place and the wrong time teacher wise.

Actually, it was the poorer teachers who taught us (by example) that we should question what we were told. Truth be told, there are multiple teachers who I will remember forever, mostly for very positive reasons. In between my parents and my teachers, the joy of learning was planted and nourished.

 

[PapaSloth]

Actually, it was the poorer teachers who taught us (by example) that we should question what we were told. Truth be told, there are multiple teachers who I will remember forever, mostly for very positive reasons. In between my parents and my teachers, the joy of learning was planted and nourished.

I always make sure to include at least one major factual misstatement in all of my lectures, just to get my students used to questioning authority.

Sometimes I even do it on purpose.

 

[Myrany]

Another thought on a REO.

You get the flavor and vapor of dripping without having to drip. As one friend of mine says "It is dripping upside down"

 

[MikeE3]

I am almost done cleaning my FT clone V4. After it's first soaking in the ultrasonic cleaner it came apart easily. Ran it through 15 minutes with Dawn Dishwashing liquid in hot water. Two hot water rinses and now it's soaking in Vodka. Will run the cleaner for another couple of cycles then a couple more hot water rinses. Set it out on a paper towel to dry. Put it back together, coil it and wick it up then we will see how it vapes. Do I want to leave out the air control screw? Thoughts?

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Holy crap! Are you fastidious, have spare time on your hands, or does this thing come packed in cosmoline?

Wow, your cleaning regimen is hard core Must be the navy training I usually just rinse min, wipe everything with a paper towel, and then convince myself that the cleaning oil taste is like "new car smell."

As far as air control screws, I like a lot of air flow and have yet to find an atty where the air control screws were good for anything other than keeping the liquid from draining out in the event of flooding, and since all of my mods are flush mount, even that isn't very useful. Your mileage may vary.

I'm with you Papa. I make a small bowls of soapy water. Take new atty apart, put the pieces in the bowl, swish them around, good hot water rinse, paper towel dry, re-assemble, coil and wick it and off to vaping.

 

[Janet H]

Reuters

E-cigarettes would be banned in public places under California bill

Excerpt

"Whether you get people hooked on e-cigarettes or regular cigarettes, it’s nicotine addiction and it kills," Democratic state Senator Mark Leno, who introduced the bill, said in a telephone interview. "We're going to see hundreds of thousands of family members and friends die from e-cigarette use just like we did from traditional tobacco use."

Do they think everybody is so stupid that they will believe this stuff? Hope he's publicly flogged and held accountable for his lies.

In a word, yes. Yes they do. Unfortunately there are enough people who will believe anything.

As someone who teaches 18 year olds at a community college, I have to assume ignorance here unless proven otherwise. I really can believe that someone might not understand that you have to put juice on the wick to keep it from burning (in fact, I ran into someone like that here at ECF about two months ago. Fortunately, he understood after I explained it to him).

See my earlier comment about teaching 18 year olds at community college. I also teach older learners. Even my wife, who is both smart and well educated, isn't entirely convinced about vaping and often forwards me these fear mongering articles that she comes across in the media. As Abe Lincoln said, "you can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time. But, you can't fool mom."

I think there are arguments to be made for ignorance or being obnoxious, but the bottom line is people gave him good advice.

I tried to help my niece get started vaping via email. She put in her order and then contacted me to say how awful vaping was. I asked her what kind of juice did she get and she said, "what juice". :face palm: I know for a fact I'd talked to her quite a bit about choosing juice. What she really wanted was to have somebody put a rig into her hand, all prepared, and keep doing it without her having to even try to understand it at all. I might have done it too if she lived close. There's all kinds of people out there.

 

[MattB101]

Holy crap! Are you fastidious, have spare time on your hands, or does this thing come packed in cosmoline?



I'm with you Papa. I make a small bowls of soapy water. Take new atty apart, put the pieces in the bowl, swish them around, good hot water rinse, paper towel dry, re-assemble, coil and wick it and off to vaping.

Cleaned and ready for reassembly. Not really as .... as it might appear. Just read about plugged air holes and juice channels as well as really heavy machine oil on the clones. That as well as "that funky smell" said a thorough cleaning was in order.


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[MattB101]

Notice the copper spring. Thinking about ordering the "large" kit of replacement parts from SvoëMesto and using some of those to replace some of the lesser quality parts in the clone. Then we could really call it a ....... vape!

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[MattB101]

Apparently we can't use the word that describes a child with two parents who aren't married either. Oh well, you know what I meant.

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[MikeE3]

Legs you're looking for good airflow (*) w/ using NI200/DNA40 and Papa you just like airflow. Have either of you considered the Russian 91% V2? I got one a month ago from an off-site co-op. Overall I like it. It's "toolless". Just spin the air control ring to adjust air flow from tight to sucking through a milkshake straw airy. Also keep spinning the air ring to expose a fill hole - no tiny screws to take out and drop/lose. It has an adjustable 510 pin screw (no springs).

Here it is sitting on a Super-T Brass 18500 Workhorse.



Behind the gi-huge-ic air hole is a tapered channel that opens up to full size. The air hole is .110" / 2.8mm.



I'm running it w/ a 1Ω coil and rayon wick. Honestly I can't open it up w/ this setup as it's too airy and I don't get decent 'pressure' through the chamber/chimney for decent wicking. So I have it set for an easy draw and get that 'magic' bubble in the tank after each vape. I think if I went sub-Ω I could open up the air some more and it would be fine. Maybe on the next build but for the last month I've been enjoying it 'as is'. Been my goto setup lately. I'm beginning to like it better than my regular R91s which I prefer over KFLs. (Now Janet likes the KFLs as she likes a stiff draw)

(*) Edit - 2Legs, I saw you post about needing an airy draw on the DNA40 to avoid TP mode kicking in. It's not just airflow you need - you need good wicking to keep the wick wet. You may want to experiment a bit with your wicking (a little more or a little less, if using rayon definitely trim 1/2 off the tails) to see if you can improve it. The DNA40's TP mode wants everything working optimally not just 'close enough'.

 

[PapaSloth]

Legs you're looking for good airflow (*) w/ using NI200/DNA40 and Papa you just like airflow. Have either of you considered the Russian 91% V2? I got one a month ago from an off-site co-op. Overall I like it. It's "toolless". Just spin the air control ring to adjust air flow from tight to sucking through a milkshake straw airy. Also keep spinning the air ring to expose a fill hole - no tiny screws to take out and drop/lose. It has an adjustable 510 pin screw (no springs)

I'm sure it's better than a KFL, but I have one of these coming on a group buy:

Now THAT'S airflow!

 

[PapaSloth]

What she really wanted was to have somebody put a rig into her hand, all prepared, and keep doing it without her having to even try to understand it at all. I might have done it too if she lived close. There's all kinds of people out there.

I thought that's what Bricks and Mortar stores were for. They better be doing something worthwhile to justify the markup!

 

[Rickajho]

Looking at folks' signatures, I see a few REO lovers. What's so great about 'em? (Not bein' ornery; really want to know what you like about the Reo!). The closest I can get to understanding how they work is a Billet Box. I'm pretty sure that's not right

ETA: I'm worried that my question didn't come out right. After seeing so many folks lovin on their Reo's, I'm curious as to why folks like them so much. I read a bunch of posts in Reo threads, but no one talked about why they like their Reo, only that they like it.

Welp:

When it comes to a mechanical it's pretty much indestructible. You can drop it or even throw it all you want and the finish might get dinged up but it really takes a lot of effort to damage a Reo. Especially with the introduction of the stainless steel 510.

Since it's a one piece aluminum body with no tooby parts that have to be screwed together - no threads to strip and no lamenting/diddling/fretting over voltage drop.

Pocket friendly. A Reo Grand has about the same L x W dimensions as a business card. (They aren't as big as they look.) Not top heavy and it won't roll away on you if you do drop it.

The biggest factor is the feed system. Which means: No top heavy tanks, no glass to break and it eliminates the pain of dripping. Get a dripping atty experience in a single handed operation. The Grands have a 6 ml feed bottle inside. How far can you get through the day on 6 ml's before needing to refill it?

Or you can use it with stock non-rebuildable attys and cartos. The only time I never hated a carto was when I put it on a bottom feeder. Most of the times I vape unflavored anyway so if I'm feeling lazy I'll just use a 306 atty - not a lot of flavor there to be had so...

So it's a really good thing. But it's not for everyone: People with arthritis may have a problem squeezing ("squonking") to feed. And there is a certain subset of the population who value a spiffy manicure over a Reo experience and won't trim their nails so they don't puncture the feed bottle. Rob does make a different style "plunger" door which changes feeding from a squeezing to a pushing motion for people who need it, but it's not readily available on the site and you have to ask for it.

And there's that. ^^^ Best customer service, support and repair options ever. You can actually get replacement parts if you do manage to do a bad and break something, or you can send it to Rob and have him fix it for you.

 

[LittleBird]

Wow, Rick! sounds like you love the Reo, and for good reason. I really appreciate your thoughts. May investigate a bit more

 

[MikeE3]

I'm sure it's better than a KFL, but I have one of these coming on a group buy:

Now THAT'S airflow!

Holy Geez! Looks like w/ the right fuel and wick you could launch a rocket w/ that thing. So what is that "thing"?

 

[Rickajho]

Wow, Rick! sounds like you love the Reo, and for good reason. I really appreciate your thoughts. May investigate a bit more

You can come visit over here if you want. ~> Reos Mods But I warn you they are a friendly bunch without an agenda so they will suck you in.

 

[MattB101]

Well I finished the Kayfun V4 build. Good God! This thing vapes like a freight train. I'm truly impressed and it's a clone! I might have to save my pennies and nickels for the real deal. Truly impressive. Nice airy draw, tons of vapor. I put a 9 wrap, 28ga micro coil at 1.4 ohms and it's putting out clouds. I like it.

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[FlamingoTutu]

Actually, it was the poorer teachers who taught us (by example) that we should question what we were told. Truth be told, there are multiple teachers who I will remember forever, mostly for very positive reasons. In between my parents and my teachers, the joy of learning was planted and nourished.

I had one teacher that was a real keeper in grade school. Several were terrible and one or two good/average. It was my father that taught me not to take things at face value or allow myself to be spoon fed without questioning the source. He paid for that dearly for nearly six decades.

Since it's a one piece aluminum body with no tooby parts that have to be screwed together - no threads to strip and no lamenting/diddling/fretting over voltage drop.

Pocket friendly. A Reo Grand has about the same L x W dimensions as a business card. (They aren't as big as they look.) Not top heavy and it won't roll away on you if you do drop it.

I'll take that roly poly nuisance off your hands.

Wow, Rick! sounds like you love the Reo, and for good reason. I really appreciate your thoughts. May investigate a bit more

Birdie, there are a lot of dedicated Reo people around and I've never heard anything legitimately bad about Reos. It's sort of box vs cylinder and regulated vs unregulated. The ProVari vs Reo war is for the most part good-natured ribbing though a few get carried away.

 

[MattB101]

Ain't it purty!


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