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DeadbeatJeff

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Parallel is about the only thing I haven't tried, I like twisted for sure tho... Is parallel the next step?

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I'm running a parallel presently in my kayfun, one twisted and one plain. Flavor nation.

  • 0.7ohm
  • 30g
  • +
  • a 32g twist with braided 36g

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For me, parallel is a way to get a dual coil in a single-coil space. THis one has held-up so well and vapes so nicely that it's been running for 3+weeks in my ADV tank.
 

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THIS THING TAKES NAMES!

Seriously it's not a novelty coil, and it's been charged with statutory vape.

Hey all, I tried the "Inception coil" a while back expecting an interesting vape, was a little disappointed that it wasn't at all, just another "novelty coil". So I had the idea to try and make the "outer coil-inner coil" system work.

There were three things wrong with the "Inception Coil" in my experience:
1. It didn't produce alot of vapor, and took way too long to heat up.
2. It didn't heat up *evenly*.
3. It wasn't worth the hard effort of building, wicking, and the ohms were a little high (for my tastes) due to the one long piece of kanthal design.

So I decided to try and fix all these problems, while keeping the same "coil inside another" idea, because I thought this was the coolest idea, basically squeezing vapor between two hot coils. I came up with a kind of "best of both worlds coil", where I would take my favorite vapor producing coil the super-nano, and surround it with my favorite flavor coil; a 5/64th's" macro-coil that's slightly gapped between the wraps. I used 24ga wire, to keep the ohms low, also to make them two separate coils, and twist the connection legs together to make it a paralell build.

So I was hoping that this would keep the ohm's low, produce vapor fast, while still making great flavor. And it couldn't have been more on the money! It's just like vaping these two coils if I had them separate in dual coil mode, but even better! Better because it heats up in an instant, and has flavor that super-nano's just can't come close to making, the vapor is incredibly dense, and it uses juice really efficiently too. When I check it visually when I sense it getting dry, it's usually used up all the juice available, the best part is though: it produces gobs of vapor, while not being sensitive to dry hits. I don't know if it's because of the sandwiching, or two coils pulling juice at the same time, but it's a bullet-proof setup! Easily one of the best single coils I've ever tried (I haven't tried too many other than the standard nano, micro, macro etc., and not as of lately so take that with a grain of salt. ;) ), and it performs comparably to any dual coil as well.

If anybody wants to know, I basically just: Wrapped a super-nano (24ga), a macro 5/64th's on a similar size screw (24ga as well), equalized the ohm's so both coils were the same ohm'age, bent the legs on the super-nano to fit the coil inside the other, adjusted the coils to line up perfect and held the inner coil steady with wedged cotton while I twisted the coil legs together. Adjusted the coils to glow proper, wicked 3 cotton strands between the Inner coil & Outer coil (sandwiched), and tucked some light cotton under the beauty. It came out to 0.3ohms, and vaped like a beast, a flavorful beast; so much so that I had to stop using a sweet juice because it was too rich.

Here's some pics I took during the build:

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<---Pic really doesn't do it justice, it blasts vapor in 3 directions, from both sides of the super-nano openings, and from

the front, out of the spaced 5/64th's" coil face.

When I first vaped it I thought it was going to be like any other "silly" novelty coil, and not really work well. But I couldn't have been more wrong, it's a darn excellent vape! It's not as hard as you may think to build either, certainly more easy than the "Inception coil", but 5x more worth it for sure. I'll definitely be building this in the future again, possibly TWO of these bad boys, I know that would kick some major rear end.

Hope someone enjoyed this, and if you like "single" coils, definitely give this bad boy a shot! Vape onward y'all.

(I took a quick video of this coil performing too if anyone wants to see, I'm just having some technical issue's trying to convert it!)
 

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I remember when you posted that what seems like way back when.. Before they were all the rage.


That build was sexy back then, now it's more so a testament. Way ahead of the curve on that one brotha.

Cheers MattyB.

That coil feels like a lifetime ago. I am sure I used it for at least 2 or 3 months without changing it.
 

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Nope, VTC5.

They can do over 100A bro.

Don't do that...but DO find the data sheet, you'll sheet, LOL!

Here ya go! Those are for the 4's, but still apply.

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Well, so long as nothing goes wrong, I suppose. Kinda. Really depends on how accurate that 0.24 reading is I guess.

That's like 0.02 away from a short though.
 

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Well, so long as nothing goes wrong, I suppose. Kinda. Really depends on how accurate that 0.24 reading is I guess.

That's like 0.02 away from a short though.
Which they still would handle.

And how is 0.10 a short?

Just know what kind of equipment you have, and it's condition.
Oh, and NOALOX is not a myth, you go this low, you want some grease. I get a hot button when I find it going dry.
 
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Dual 24g parallels. 2x 0.24.
Helios, all 4 drilled to 1/8th.

Holy heck...


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I did this in my Tobh Atty with the same airflow (and it REALLY helps to have this airflow :p), nice taste man! I don't have two positive posts (I wish I still had my Brass Monkee :( ) so I had to run a single line, but even my 35amp purp got a little hot and bothered with this puppy. (Wasn't necessary though, a fully charged vtc4 can handle .115.)

HELLACIOUS vape though, I really liked it, it was like a full dark german beer (or a guinness), compared to a coors sprite (Jk, coors light is the bomb sometimes). Here's the airflow I used with it (4 x 1/16th" air holes on both sides, still got warm too, good stuff.)
 

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Well... I'm so tickled at finally knowing how to build coils and wick them properly, I got a Kayfun last week and took some pics of my own setup. But you guys are so high-tech-vape-geek, I'm just plain embarrassed to show my single coil in a cotton nest, no matter how well it works.

Andria

Show it off! Be proud of those coils! :D To these trained eyes, even "simple" coils can be beautiful. Most of the time I appreciate the simpler *functional* looking coils anyway, as long as they look neat & symmetrical, it's all about where it is in the chamber, how straight/tight, the angle it's at, wicking etc.

~I build super-nano's all day, but I'm often most impressed by those huge 1/8th" macro coils that look like they were made by a machine, especially when it's a thinner gauge. Because I know how hard it is to keep wire that tame at big diameters like that, I need to got some 22ga already because I want to start making some larger diameter coils, while also keeping the ohms below .5. (That or I need more power! :p)

Give us what you got, we don't bite! ;)
 

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Curious: what is the benefit of stuffing the chamber like that?

...have never seen nor thought of doing that...

have been doing it like this for forever:
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I've never used a KFun but it looks like it could reduce the chamber some, if anything just act as a kind of juice reservoir to keep it stocked up near the coils.

~Then again I could see the vapor being "caught" by that wet nesting, I'd try and keep the nesting below the airhole.
 

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I've never used a KFun but it looks like it could reduce the chamber some, if anything just act as a kind of juice reservoir to keep it stocked up near the coils.

~Then again I could see the vapor being "caught" by that wet nesting, I'd try and keep the nesting below the airhole.

in a Kayfun all it would do is (1)nothing, (2)mess up you airflow, (3)mess up your wicking

the chamber in a kayfun is minute already, and you don't use cotton to hold juice, just to feed it from the channels to the coil. The diameter of the chamber is the diameter of the deck that the wicks are touching in that pic, and it's only a mm or two higher than the top of that coil.

...never used a Kayfun? This makes me sad.
 

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Show it off! Be proud of those coils! :D To these trained eyes, even "simple" coils can be beautiful. Most of the time I appreciate the simpler *functional* looking coils anyway, as long as they look neat & symmetrical, it's all about where it is in the chamber, how straight/tight, the angle it's at, wicking etc.

~I build super-nano's all day, but I'm often most impressed by those huge 1/8th" macro coils that look like they were made by a machine, especially when it's a thinner gauge. Because I know how hard it is to keep wire that tame at big diameters like that, I need to got some 22ga already because I want to start making some larger diameter coils, while also keeping the ohms below .5. (That or I need more power! :p)

Give us what you got, we don't bite! ;)

Well, the coils I was making with 30ga really were kinda pitiful looking, but as I posted, I think I've solved that, just by using 28ga instead -- also I just got some ceramic tip tweezers! The 1.9Ω I made turned out really well, using 28ga; the wraps stayed together so nicely with that fire-release-press together technique. So I was thinking that tomorrow I would do a new one for my other kayfun, which right now still has the last pitiful 30ga coil in it; it's still working, so I haven't replaced it yet. I'm still kinda learning my way with the cotton wicking, so I do end up having to replace the wicking pretty often, about every 24-30 hrs, when I start getting the burnt taste -- but that's still way better than what I was getting with those lil T3S coils, which could go barely half a day without getting that awful taste.

3 cheers for kayfun!!!

Andria
 
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