Post pictures of your working wick and coil setup

Status
Not open for further replies.

bsoplinger

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 13, 2010
3,268
3,709
Capitol District New York
Why do I have a filling that you are trying to call me a liar?
Not at all I believed you. The problem with just written words and no facial expressions or body language. I could entirely see how a usage rate like you saw would be a really good reason to say not for me I need to find another way. I've seen an increase in amount vaped when using rayon as have others who mentioned it in the rayon thread but not at such high a rate but also not with drippers and very low sub ohm coils.

Your comment actually made me smile as I imagine someone saying that they didn't use rayon because they used e-liquid too fast and were going back to silica, images of the tea bag and blue foam days coming to mind.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2
 

bigmaaark

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Sep 14, 2013
303
288
rancho cucamonga, ca
There's a coupon right now I just ordered the 500ft box 44060, that's the one you want, shipped for $14!
It's a good bandwagon to jump on brotha, I jumped on during the alpaca fur Era, notice the avatar, and I've been using rayon in my bottom feeder, drippers r91's foggers gennys everything from 0.2ohm to 1.4ohm for fogger v4 on provari and it's killer.

i use the 44043 cellucotton. whats the difference between that and the 44060?
 

Kyi

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jan 7, 2010
1,867
1,343
40
Atlanta
Hey guys, kind of a coil amateur here but I'm looking to improve my Kayfun build. Currently using 28 gauge wire, usually getting around 1.2 to 1.5 ohm builds, I'd like more vapor and throat hit, should I try 26 gauge wire or use less wraps? It does seem like it takes a moment to heat up, I'm typically used to higher resistance and higher gauge wire but have been slowly venturing into the lower side.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
 

G-weezy

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 16, 2014
1,795
4,086
Minneapolis
Hey guys, kind of a coil amateur here but I'm looking to improve my Kayfun build. Currently using 28 gauge wire, usually getting around 1.2 to 1.5 ohm builds, I'd like more vapor and throat hit, should I try 26 gauge wire or use less wraps? It does seem like it takes a moment to heat up, I'm typically used to higher resistance and higher gauge wire but have been slowly venturing into the lower side.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

Try parallel 28ga wrapped 4-5 times. And twisted 28ga kanthal wrapped about 4-5 times.
 

treehead

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Feb 18, 2014
1,477
1,311
Anchorage, AK, USA
Your welcome, I'm glad you like the pic sequence. I loved the look of these wick ever since I first seen them.
Would love to see some pics of your build with the cotton pads when your done :)

Gladly :), here's one where I used it quite creatively :p. I love it because it makes a nice uniformly thick wick, that you can actually determine how wide/dense it will be before you even put it in! Very consistent method, I really dig it.

I made one long "snake", that runs through everything and under the drip hole, and haven't had it get dry on me once! Looks purdy too lol, they are a little thinner than yours and iTeo's because I like a 1/16th" coil or smaller usually, but regardless, a noticable improvement in juice dispersion.

dpcw3W9.png


She plumes just great. I'm somewhere behind there :D.

LuYvfyK.png
 
Last edited:

treehead

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Feb 18, 2014
1,477
1,311
Anchorage, AK, USA
Hey guys, kind of a coil amateur here but I'm looking to improve my Kayfun build. Currently using 28 gauge wire, usually getting around 1.2 to 1.5 ohm builds, I'd like more vapor and throat hit, should I try 26 gauge wire or use less wraps? It does seem like it takes a moment to heat up, I'm typically used to higher resistance and higher gauge wire but have been slowly venturing into the lower side.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

Definitely Kyi, if your not getting any dry hits while comfortably vaping, then I'd try either less wraps (or a smaller coil diameter), or some 26ga. I'd recommend even 24ga, because that's what I use on my russian 91, because that's not as big a leap from 28 as you'd think.

But definitely before you buy something else, try a smaller diameter. I personally like my russian wrapped 9-11 times (depending on my mood :p) on a 1/16th" guide, which comes out to about .7-.9 ohms (with 24ga, with 28 you'd only need about 6 wraps).

It's not extremely low ohms or anything dramatic, but with the smaller diameter the center of the coil heats up faster, which is right over the airflow, so it's perfect for the Kayfuns in my opinion. It's nearly instant vapor production, because there isn't a massive juicy wick "working against" the heat if that makes sense. With wider coils, I think the airflow has a harder time working around the coil and cooling off the top (thus making vapor), so I seem to get dry hits much easier. That and normally the outer coils don't ever get a chance to heat up, with this relatively long coil (because you can get more wraps, while staying lower in the ohms), the airflow stays cooling down the center hot spot, while the outer coils are kinda off to the side, so they get a chance to heat up as well, since they get less airflow. I really think with a skinny, long coil, it's the best way to evenly heat up everything, while making it easier for the kayfun to "squeez out" the juice in the wick, and the wick being thinner, can definitely wick juice alot easier against gravity (like trying to suck a 10 foot straw, as opposed to a 10 foot garden hose if you catch my drift.).

I meant to keep this short and sweet my bad lol, give it a shot though, if your confident in your wicking skills ;). It seems to wick better only if your already getting good results with wider coils, if you wick it too dense, it may dry hit easier because there's simply less juice in the smaller coil. But it really does pay off if you wick just enough to have a little resistance when you pull through the coil, and I fluff my wick tails out when done, usually having them touch the juice deck just so.

Hope this helps! :D Believe me, if you know your kayfun well, you can build some really hot coils in'er. Alot of people underestimate it, and build 2-3 ohm (slow) coils in them, because they are afraid of the wicking being too slow, but you can catapult some vapor really well. (I'm sure you already know, but just in case, max out your airflow, and build your coils to work for that, you'll get much better performance.
 

treehead

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Feb 18, 2014
1,477
1,311
Anchorage, AK, USA
I need some help here
just got my fogger, looks amazing but it's a shame I can't make it work good enough with duals 28 and get the ohms on the safe range for my 18350s and 18500 with the fogger is way too long for me that I wouldn't use it. It takes forever to heat at dual 28 10 loops at .77ohms. I know you'll say get a higher gauge but as I'm in mexico the wire will take a good 3 weeks at least to arrive and just have 26 and 28
is there any other solution? I don't know how the airflow would work on a single coil
knekUpr.jpg

Hey brother I hear your pain, and I have a few things to suggest that might work, I'm not sure. You could always make the diameter of your coil wider BUT, that would make it heat up slower, so that's out of the plan. It may sound silly, but you could jam some cotton as tight as possible in one of the airflow channels, I'm almost positive that will cut off one of the airflows, but I can understand if you wouldn't like that.

I think the best bet for that situation is to build a smaller diameter coil (probably 1/16th" or slightly larger), and build it as long as the deck will allow (or as many as you want for your desired ohms). What this will do is force the center of the coil (which is the good part, over the airflow) to heat up much faster than a wider coil, and allow the rest of the relatively longer coil to be your ohm safety cushion.

Using your 28 gauge on a 1/16th" guide, it'll only need 12 wraps to be at .77 ohms, which sounds like alot, but it'll definitely be a perfect fit for the foggers posts. And since it's a smaller diameter coil, the middle of it will heat up pretty darn fast, since there's less wire in a condensed space , and there's less juice in the thinner wick to cool off that coil, and make it harder for your 500 to heat it up. (make sure your wires are side by side too, wrapping spaced coils will work against what you want).

I think this will work perfectly for your setup, because 12 wraps of 28 gauge isn't too long of a coil, and I know from experience that a 1/16th .8 ohm coil heats up decently fast on an 18500, only in the center though. But since the foggers airflow is one circle, this may be an advantage, because the innermost wraps will be the ones getting most hot, and those inner wraps are directly over the airflow. Plus the foggers juice channels are just about 1/16th" themselves, so I think it'll be a perfect fit! :D.

Hope this helps brother, what batteries are you using by the way?

!Viva la mexico! Tu en vacaciones? Voy a México a veces a practicar mi español, cual es muy terrible estoy positiva, y Mexico estan bonita por supuesto!
 

SLIPPY_EEL

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Oct 11, 2013
3,127
3,908
Ω England Ω


4 wraps each on 1/16 .3Ω Sleeper build

i'm sure without the 510-510 this build would be mucho hot, it adds about .50Vd.. cant wait to get my new mech so i can vape without it , then i'll grind the reo down so i dont need one there either :D
But i have to say, i had to go out and about earlier so connected the squonk bottle up, took off the 510-510 and put on a rm2 & after vaping on the tobh for over a week i now cant taste much from the rm2 :( .....:lol: dam glad ive gone back to dripping & now that i'm dripping through a widebore is so much quicker then squonking
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread