Yep you probably jinks us both.
My original Prodigy has the rubber switch housing. I just bought a new switch for a spare and it is hard plastic so bearscreek, I assume the newest is the hard plastic (delrin).
Kevin
PRODIGY: Stick With The Old OR Go With The New ???
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Yep you probably jinks us both.
My original Prodigy has the rubber switch housing. I just bought a new switch for a spare and it is hard plastic so bearscreek, I assume the newest is the hard plastic (delrin).
Kevin
Yeah, I was just wondering because my original (which isn't very old) is rubber, and my new unresistored one is hard plastic.
My first serious mod was the protege and now that I am hooked on the style and quality of puresmoker products.The whole world turns topsy turvy with talk of redesign and cam switches.I think the choice of voltage is a major appeal of the prodigy v1.I suppose those that want the new one might just want to sell their v1's to offset the cost of the v2.Maybe I can get the v1 I wanted used.No way!Make the v2 steve but keep the v1 also.jmho.
New Prodigy or old is a tough question.
The way the question is phrased in the poll only makes it tougher. I like the modularity of the old prodigy (which I've only seen in pictures and videos) but I always found it sort of clunky-looking: if not a lightsaber, then certainly a lightdagger with the black accent around the battery housing. Its ability to handle multiple voltages was however bold and innovative engineering.
Be that as it may, from the way you phrase the question, the 5v-only New Prodigy would be smaller, removing some of the design's strangeness and adding some of the elegance of the protege while lessoning the temptation to add complicated features that might lesson the thing's robustness.
Also, the "smaller" option implies in my mind that you may be trying to create a consistent look to industrial design across your products to create a brand. If this is the case, the smaller prodigy option would make perfect visual sense as the protege's "big brother."
You certainly offer tough choices, and, although I am reluctant to see the device have only one option (why not all-day 3.7v or nova-hot 6v without resistors?). I would swallow some of my love for gadgetry and go with the smaller option.
The way the question is phrased in the poll only makes it tougher. I like the modularity of the old prodigy (which I've only seen in pictures and videos) but I always found it sort of clunky-looking: if not a lightsaber, then certainly a lightdagger with the black accent around the battery housing. Its ability to handle multiple voltages was however bold and innovative engineering.
Be that as it may, from the way you phrase the question, the 5v-only New Prodigy would be smaller, removing some of the design's strangeness and adding some of the elegance of the protege while lessoning the temptation to add complicated features that might lesson the thing's robustness.
Also, the "smaller" option implies in my mind that you may be trying to create a consistent look to industrial design across your products to create a brand. If this is the case, the smaller prodigy option would make perfect visual sense as the protege's "big brother."
You certainly offer tough choices, and, although I am reluctant to see the device have only one option (why not all-day 3.7v or nova-hot 6v without resistors?). I would swallow some of my love for gadgetry and go with the smaller option.
I know I voted and already posted but I've been thinking about this all day.
The Poll should have been:
A. New Prodigy - (Smaller ... And likely a 5v only device)
B. Old Prodigy - (A Bit Smaller, with Vast Improvements) Still 3.7/5v/6v device
C. Revisions to the original and build the new one
I have two of the originals and would love to see this thing done in the same thin wall stainless that's used on the Protege.
The objective here is to post your thoughts but keep the voted totals equal.
The question here is not "Do we want a new one"
It's more of "Do we not want an upgraded original"
The Poll should have been:
A. New Prodigy - (Smaller ... And likely a 5v only device)
B. Old Prodigy - (A Bit Smaller, with Vast Improvements) Still 3.7/5v/6v device
C. Revisions to the original and build the new one
I have two of the originals and would love to see this thing done in the same thin wall stainless that's used on the Protege.
The objective here is to post your thoughts but keep the voted totals equal.
The question here is not "Do we want a new one"
It's more of "Do we not want an upgraded original"
Seems to me that two issues come up frequently. One is that the cam switch is meeting with luke warm reception at best. The other is that the multi-voltage setup is a cool and unique feature of V1 that many of us would miss if it went away. Personally, I only run my Prodigy at 5v, but I like knowing that I can switch to 3.7v or 6v if I want to. Like others, I'd probably be happy with a 5v only Prodigy, especially if the V1 remained available. The lack of variable voltage isn't a deal breaker for me, but from a marketing perspective it's a nice feature given the fact that few of the competing mods offer this functionality.
If I had a Prodigy with notched end cap ... smaller spring/press fitted, perhaps even smaller adapters, etc....) and keep it a 3.7v, 5v, and 6v optioned device it would be heaven! I love my prodigy! the end cap is the pain I have with mine, I have to keep super gluing the spring back on 
... and having a notched end cap ... The Prodigy would be perfect!
... and having a notched end cap ... The Prodigy would be perfect! 
I'd guess that many who would like the multi-voltage to remain would change their mind if they could hold in their hand a Prodigy sized for 16mm cells. That's the only reason I'd like to see a dedicated 5V design.
I agree with this, but I am sure there are issues with production costs and managing stock between all three products etc.
I am scared to see the prodigy v1 become a thing of the passed when I know it it works exactly like I want it to. and it has been a very reliable device.
The proposed redesign is exciting and if it works as well as the v1, I would be glad to have one. the only thing I don't like is the mouth activated switch, as nice as it sounds mouth push in style switches start to make your lips and teeth hurt after hours of vaping.
I would just make a smaller diameter tube for the v1. eliminate the 3.7v option and leave that to the protege.
To clarify, I just want a 5v device that is built specifically for RCR123A batteries. I want it as small as possible, so ditch the 18650 3.7v configuration. The new machanical lip activated switch sounds interesting to me, but I'm fine with the old switch too.
Same here. I already mentioned that in a previous post, but it bears repeating. The trade off in size would be enough for me. I use my Prodigy at 5v exclusively. Having a smaller barrel would be awesome. I'd be fine with keeping my V1 for 6v, getting a Protege for 3.7v and a V2 for 5v. Seems like a best case scenario for Puresmoker.
There is a huge boon though that you get for paying the penalty on size. The 18650 as a battery option is killer for anyone who wants to charge a few batteries and be good for days. This option has come in handy several times for me when traveling or camping. I think the split vote (or near split vote) points to the best option being a third model offering that is 5v exclusive that reduces the size.
as dead even as dead even gets a2 haha
We are going to try different *posts* via Brocks info in another thread, to see if we can get a voltage drop to our liking with the use of a certain material. If we can, that opens up MANY avenues.
hahaWe are going to try different *posts* via Brocks info in another thread, to see if we can get a voltage drop to our liking with the use of a certain material. If we can, that opens up MANY avenues.
I say have it do one thing and do it well. 5v vaping machine. Make it narrower so that the batteries fit right without having to put a rolled up piece of paper or card board in there.
Reliable 5v vaping that is what I'm looking for. There are plenty of 3.7v devices out there including your protoge and there are plenty that do 6v+
5V is the sweet spot. Work on creating a reliable 5v unit and people will buy it. Better switch, tighter fit for the batteries. Maybe more durable copper threads.
You can be the best at one thing or mediocre with flexibility.
Reliable 5v vaping that is what I'm looking for. There are plenty of 3.7v devices out there including your protoge and there are plenty that do 6v+
5V is the sweet spot. Work on creating a reliable 5v unit and people will buy it. Better switch, tighter fit for the batteries. Maybe more durable copper threads.
You can be the best at one thing or mediocre with flexibility.
I like current version. I think it's a solid design and just needs to be tweaked a bit.
I think Steve & Co have done a great job making the changes needed as they come up, constantly improving the device.
Also I prefer the 18650 batteries
I think Steve & Co have done a great job making the changes needed as they come up, constantly improving the device.
Also I prefer the 18650 batteries
I, too, like to have different voltages available. I usually use an 18650 with the resistor switch to get 3.7 volts. This renders a wonderfully cool vape similar to a fully charged 801 battery, except that it lasts all day long. Sometimes I'll change to the CR123Rs for a vape at 5 volts, or change the switch to one without the resistor to get 4.2 volts from the 18650.
3.7 is my sweet spot. It's what I prefer to vape.
I like the retro, utilitarian look of the Prodigy. It doesn't pretend to be anything but what it is. It's the big dog, and it looks like the big dog.
But, jeepers, I do worry about the switch. I've already have had one wear out. It wasn't defective- I pressed it to death. I have a couple of spares now, but I'd be interested in a stainless Prodigy version without a tactile switch... only as long as it keeps the voltage flexibility, and preferably one that allows me to use the batteries that I already own.
3.7 is my sweet spot. It's what I prefer to vape.
I like the retro, utilitarian look of the Prodigy. It doesn't pretend to be anything but what it is. It's the big dog, and it looks like the big dog.
But, jeepers, I do worry about the switch. I've already have had one wear out. It wasn't defective- I pressed it to death. I have a couple of spares now, but I'd be interested in a stainless Prodigy version without a tactile switch... only as long as it keeps the voltage flexibility, and preferably one that allows me to use the batteries that I already own.
It's looking pretty much even, with roughly half of all poll responders favoring a redesign (5v only) and half in favor of the old design...
That said, I'm totally on board for the new, smaller, sleeker, 5v-only design so long as the switch system (whatever it turns out to be) is more reliable than the Prodigy V1's switch.
I don't understand those who are doubting the switch problems. For those who think the switch problems are exaggerated, it is important that you know... there ARE those of us who have had tons of problems with the V1 switches. I had 2 switches (one resistored, one not) go out on me in less than 3 months. I've had one repaired by PS, with the other one to be sent to them on Monday.
Plenty of others have had problems as well.
Anyway, someone mentioned the possibility of a person's mouth getting tired after hours of use with the "mouth-activated" system. I hadn't thought of that, but it seems like a legitimate concern. Will the mouth-activated switch make my lips sore?
So I vote YES to a 5v-only smaller Prodigy as long as it is more reliable, offers all the control that the V1 does, and does NOT make my lips/jaw/teeth (or thumb/fingers) sore.
That said, I'm totally on board for the new, smaller, sleeker, 5v-only design so long as the switch system (whatever it turns out to be) is more reliable than the Prodigy V1's switch.
I don't understand those who are doubting the switch problems. For those who think the switch problems are exaggerated, it is important that you know... there ARE those of us who have had tons of problems with the V1 switches. I had 2 switches (one resistored, one not) go out on me in less than 3 months. I've had one repaired by PS, with the other one to be sent to them on Monday.
Plenty of others have had problems as well.
Anyway, someone mentioned the possibility of a person's mouth getting tired after hours of use with the "mouth-activated" system. I hadn't thought of that, but it seems like a legitimate concern. Will the mouth-activated switch make my lips sore?
So I vote YES to a 5v-only smaller Prodigy as long as it is more reliable, offers all the control that the V1 does, and does NOT make my lips/jaw/teeth (or thumb/fingers) sore.
The adapter and the switch housing are taking too much space. So my advise is to totally redesign them, which should make the unit shorter.
Besides, that switch is so vulnerable. I had 4 switches already dead in a month! (I discovered 2 days ago that another adapter I had, was creating a shortcut, each time i put it in)
The switch can easily be replaced by a good old fashioned 2 metallic parts that touches that make contact each time one presses on the button. More reliability, not to mention that that's already probably something like 5 centimeters less in length for the whole unit.
I'm tired of waiting, so now while waiting for new switches, this is what I do
But I'll make a more proper contact point as soon as i have enough time.
So my suggestions:
1-Keep it at 6V and forget the resistor once and for all. It has no real use.
2-Lose that switch and replace it with 2 metallic contact points.
3-A led option wouldn't hurt.
4-Make it a bit shorter and slicker, but not at the cost of improvements.
But the best Mod ever to exist, would still be the one that integrates an automatic voltage switching.
I love the 4.3 Volts (or something) that the Passthrough delivers. It's a very nice voltage.
Besides, that switch is so vulnerable. I had 4 switches already dead in a month! (I discovered 2 days ago that another adapter I had, was creating a shortcut, each time i put it in)
The switch can easily be replaced by a good old fashioned 2 metallic parts that touches that make contact each time one presses on the button. More reliability, not to mention that that's already probably something like 5 centimeters less in length for the whole unit.
I'm tired of waiting, so now while waiting for new switches, this is what I do
But I'll make a more proper contact point as soon as i have enough time.
So my suggestions:
1-Keep it at 6V and forget the resistor once and for all. It has no real use.
2-Lose that switch and replace it with 2 metallic contact points.
3-A led option wouldn't hurt.
4-Make it a bit shorter and slicker, but not at the cost of improvements.
But the best Mod ever to exist, would still be the one that integrates an automatic voltage switching.
I love the 4.3 Volts (or something) that the Passthrough delivers. It's a very nice voltage.
6v has fried a lot of atomizers out there. 5v is considered the sweet spot by most people. Neither I, nor many others, would buy a mod that offered 6v but not 5v.
For the Prodigy V2, I suggest a 5v-only device. Those who want 6v already have the Prodigy V1 (with the resistorless switch you seek).
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