Mist_Of_Joye, that picture is exactly how mine looked last week until I got my replacemnt switch on Friday!! 2 clip leads with bare wires!! I happened to check the amp draw on my resistored prodigy with 510 atty by hooking the 2 probes to the 2 wires, which is the same effect as touching the wires together, as it activates the atty and measures the current at the same time. The draw with fresh batteries was 1.92 amps. The original switch in my prodigy is a Panasonic switch, digikey part# P10857SCT-ND. The switch is rated at .05 amps or 50ma. The amp draw in my prodigy is app 38 times higher than the switch rating. I had a generic tact switch soldered to the wires at a point and the switch ran pretty warm then using it. The tact switches are great as to avoiding a big clunky switch, but they simply cant handle the huge draw of the prodigy. I think Steves latest idea of a mechanical push switch is perfect as it should hold up much better. I want one of the new pridigy's as soon as they're available. Hopefully slimmer, and with a nice reliable mechanical push button switch. Then I'll have my current prodigy for a backup!
PRODIGY: Stick With The Old OR Go With The New ???
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I say keep both the prodigy and protege both in production, while making improvements as needed. Keep track by grouping improvements - i.e. use v1, v2 etc. After all it's not as if these things have serial numbers. But also make a 3rd model (5v only) and call it something equally confusing, like the proteron.
I voted to keep the old Prodigy with the 3.7-5v option. I use both as the mood strikes me and depending on what juice I favor at the moment.
However I'm certainly not opposed to improvements. Moving to SS would be a nice thing, better threads and the classier looks of the Protege. I would buy one just for that.
Darned if I can think of anything else to improve. The Prodigy rules!
However I'm certainly not opposed to improvements. Moving to SS would be a nice thing, better threads and the classier looks of the Protege. I would buy one just for that.
Darned if I can think of anything else to improve. The Prodigy rules!
You are probably right Ultimist...I mentioned 6V because I only really enjoy the 801 atty on it.
With 901 and 510...I would not only drop it to 5V but also to 4+ V which is a very sweet spot for the 510 precisely.
Seriously...If only an automatic voltage converter mod could exist...
The adaptability of the prodigy was the main reason I bought it. I wanted to see what voltage/atomizer combo would work best for me. Now that I have it, all the adapters, and both types of switches, I've found that the variety is great. I'm using all three types of atomizers, and vary the voltage to what I need on a given day.
Hey Guys .... We made AMAZING advances in our Mechanical Switch today ... Designed for both the Protege and Prodigy.
We are sourcing different materials to try and add resistance to the circuit of the Prodigy to bring it down to 5v ... The way the switch is designed, you simply have to replace the actual button to drop the voltage. So, options could be limitless...
I'm still at a point where I'm not sure whether to have the Prodigy V2 accept 18650 batteries .... They are quite a bit wider than RCR's and we could drop considerable size by just allowing RCR123's .... If people really wanted 3.7v ... they could use an RCR123 with a spacer ...
Thoughts on this guys?
We are sourcing different materials to try and add resistance to the circuit of the Prodigy to bring it down to 5v ... The way the switch is designed, you simply have to replace the actual button to drop the voltage. So, options could be limitless...
I'm still at a point where I'm not sure whether to have the Prodigy V2 accept 18650 batteries .... They are quite a bit wider than RCR's and we could drop considerable size by just allowing RCR123's .... If people really wanted 3.7v ... they could use an RCR123 with a spacer ...
Thoughts on this guys?
I also meant to say that the only thing I would change about the prodigy would be to make it more convenient to drip somehow, or rig up a stock cartridge that will wick fast enough for 5 volts. I've tried all the cartridge mods on this forum without much luck.
btroesch,
Thanks for the technical clarification. Needless to mention that in times of despair, one has to accommodate himself the best he can. It might not always be ideal, but it can help you survive.
Evolution happens. I vote for new. There are plenty of 3.7v devices. Dedicated smaller 5v with a cam style button sounds like massive win to me.
Between an RCR123 with spacer and a 18650, the difference is the capacity. 3 to 1.
I do not mind taking with me few extra RCR123 with me...I find that easier than handling a big tube while vaping in public in a coffee shop.
But then...everyone has his own personal preferences.
If the difference in diameter of the tube is not significant between one that is exclusive for RCR123 and one that can handle both RCR123 and 18650, then I have a practical solution to solve the length problem:
The end cap.
One short, that looks like the already existing one, and one spare end cap, that is a little longer in length, and that allows few more centimeters.
Steve, use rcr123's with spacer option, it would be soooooo much better to have a slimmer prodigy
Would this be retrofittable to the V1? I never had switch problems, but the two spares I recently bought had a bad one, so a more reliable (with fewer returns for you!) one would be good.
There is a 14650 cell available, so people who insisted on 3.7V could still get some runtime. 5V is your calling card, your deal, your thing, your oasis in the desert of otherwise useless devices
For myself I would buy another Prodigy if it were smaller than the V1. The 18650 option is not important to me because I already have the V1. There are already several 18650 Mods out there but the smaller 5 volt SS Prodigy would be unique in the market. You need to capitalize on your strengths and uniqueness. The new Prodigy should not try to solve all things in one package.
But in the end, it is your baby and your decission.
Kevin
But in the end, it is your baby and your decission.
Kevin
You could always please everyone and have a 3rd device... a sleek SMALL 5v mod 'new name here that starts with a P like Prelude' (i loved my 99 prelude), a sleek small 3.7v mod with good life 'protege' (done minus button & slightly thicker tubing [i wont give up on it... lol]), and a do all end all larger but does everything which could have even higher voltages than 6 if you wanted or even a variable resistor/pot/or something to go on there... they make pretty small linear pots that i personally would think would look cool and transformer-ish lol.
my .00002 (damn it'd be hard to give change for that...)
my .00002 (damn it'd be hard to give change for that...)
Go with the NEW!!!! 5 Volts is such a sweet spot. For those that prefer 3.7 they can get the beautiful Protege!!! I have BOTH and 2 of each
A smaller Prodigy would absolutely ROCK MY WORLD!!!!
A smaller Prodigy would absolutely ROCK MY WORLD!!!!
Greatly looking forward to the release of the mech switch for the Protege - I'm assuming it'll work with the one's out now.
I would love to have a 5v Prodigy, but the smaller the better. I have no need for another 3.7v device. At least not if the new switch holds up
I second this. Current Prodigy owners will buy the new, smaller 5v device + new customers that thought the V1 was too big may jump on the smaller 5v.
Sounds similar to my post m0nk (#62).
I'm so sorry! i didn't read that far back... still a good idea. i think being able to cater to all pv users (3.7, 5, 6+) is a good idea too, not necessarily in one device.
+current protege owners that want to step up to a 5v...
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