Provari - Why all the haters?

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zapped

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Yeah sorry, I shouldn't have assumed defensiveness. BTW - I don't own a lavatube, and have never said it's better than a provari or vice versa. Also, please don't assume what I value.

My turn to apologize, that wasnt directed at you personally.I dont know you well enough to make those kinds of assumptions.That was aimed in general at some of the comments Ive seen posted in this thread.
 

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My turn to apologize, that wasnt directed at you personally.I dont know you well enough to make those kinds of assumptions.That was aimed in general at some of the comments Ive seen posted in this thread.

Ok. Thanks for the reply, appreciated. Now let's vape up a storm. :vapor:
 

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It's not the Provari that people hate. It's the snobbish attitude that some (and I stress the word "some") Provari owners have. If you don't think it exists, watch the opening to Busardo's Provari review. He gets it. The second reply to my very first ECF thread was a guy with a picture of a Provari and told me I "must" get one. I just wanted to know how long my 510 battery should last and this guy shoves a $200 Provari in my face. The funny thing is (as one who does not own a Provari), some of the Provari snobs who shove their mod in my face probably have a fraction of the money I do (not that I'm Warren Buffet). I find it rather amusing. That said, I will probably own a Provari at some point. But I wont be shoving it in anyone's face to prop up my ego.

This pretty much hit the nail on the head for me. In fact, that attitude almost kept me from making my provari purchase. I'm just glad I relented and gave in, I love my mini although I really had doubts pre-purchase due to the price tag. I just don't believe in diss'n on anyones choice of vaping gear anymore than I would diss on their taste in motorcycles.

Haters gonna hate.:evil:

and vapers gonna vape. :toast:

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I I just don't see any reason to be negative about a mod just because you can't afford it.

burnah, it is important to differentiate the mod and the mod owner. When folks put down the mod, they are really putting down the mod owner (similar to how people say they hate poodles). I have attempted to differentiate Provari owners from snobby Provari owners. There is also a big difference in them. Fortunately, I find most Provari owners to be just that...Provari owners. However, there is a number of snobby Provari owners who deserve the barbs they are receiving.
 
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As a Noob in vaping i started out on the Ego-Passthrough, cant complain on this PV. Wanted something more advance, something gives a good throat hit and that flavor everyone seeks. Did tons of research on the Provari and it was something i needed a VV. Sure it's expensive and when it came down to the 1 button feature thinking :matrix: all good and how hard can it be. To all the Hype about the Provari 2 mini, its one solid piece of work. I dropped it once already at work, but thank god it was on carpet, lol never again took it to work. So i bought my second PV, a Lava-Tube v2 kit (Chrome) awesome VV only complaints i have about it it uses the 18350 batts. There are many other awesome PV's out there and one PV i really want to add to my collection is the Orion v2.1 Genesis Mod, but it's a HIGH Maintenance PV for me. So i stuck it out on Provari 2 mini and my LT-v2. So if you got the money, treat yourself to a Provari or any othe PV out there as you can see on my sig and the money I saved went to this Provari and to the LTv2, it's better than analog's IMO. Seriuosly though how can you deny this unit, It's just awesome...
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As a Noob in vaping i started out on the Ego-Passthrough, cant complain on this PV. Wanted something more advance, something gives a good throat hit and that flavor everyone seeks. Did tons of research on the Provari and it was something i needed a VV. Sure it's expensive and when it came down to the 1 button feature thinking :matrix: all good and how hard can it be. To all the Hype about the Provari 2 mini, its one solid piece of work. I dropped it once already at work, but thank god it was on carpet, lol never again took it to work. So i bought my second PV, a Lava-Tube v2 kit (Chrome) awesome VV only complaints i have about it it uses the 18350 batts. There are many other awesome PV's out there and one PV i really want to add to my collection is the Orion v2.1 Genesis Mod, but it's a HIGH Maintenance PV for me. So i stuck it out on Provari 2 mini and my LT-v2. So if you got the money, treat yourself to a Provari or any othe PV out there as you can see on my sig and the money I saved went to this Provari and to the LTv2, it's better than analog's IMO. Seriuosly though how can you deny this unit, It's just awesome...
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What tank is that? Where to buy? It looks slick I need one
 

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Yesterday someone started a thread asking for a comparison between the Lava Tube and the Provari. I was the first to respond. I confessed that I only owned a Provari but would answer what I could about it. The following link will direct you to my post. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ari-vs-lava-tube-post7595405.html#post7595405

To my knowledge, everything that I wrote about the Provari was accurate. I don't believe that I went astray with the facts or made any biased statements. I also did the same with the Lava Tube; confessing that I didn't own one from the start and answering the comparison questions from what I had read here on ECF to be factual. For all I knew, the OP wanted a comparison to perhaps help him decide between the two devices for a potential purchase.

A few posts later, some poster came on and made some rude statements, apparently directed towards myself because of what I had posted. The comments were soon deleted by a moderator.

My question is: Why all the hate for the Provari from a certain segment of this forum? It seems to me that this device gets a good share of accolades from owners and not, but it also gets more than its share of outspoken decenters (usually people who have never owned one) who seem to go out of their way to degrade Provaris or Provape.

So ECF, what is your opinion? Why all the hate? I only ask that the discussion be civil and unbiased.

Since you have never owned a Lavatube you should have refrained yourself from throwing a comparison.

The way you put the comparison shows how much you favor provari over lavatube..

How it Works:

ProVari - uses AccuSet™ technology; PWM (pulse-width modulation) boost circuit that uses a built-in dynamic self-calibration algorithm micropressor that keeps the output voltage accurate to 1% or better over the life of the product. The ProVari will constantly monitor and adjust itself to ensure you always get accurate voltage settings. In effect, what you set, you get, from the start of a battery to the end.

Uses a single button to fire the device and work the menu system (5 clicks). Took me 10 minutes of playing with the menu to master it. Power up, power down, battery check, ohm check. Button begins blinking when battery needs replaced soon.

Lava Tube - ? Three buttons.

I dont know why you would even attempt to throw a comparison after clearly stating that you have never owned a lavatube..
Just list the pro's of the provari and that's it..

You should have thought through it... Something typed through is like a round of fire.... once done you can't take it back.
 

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I have had a Provari and a Lavatube for a year now... The Lavatube top comes loose and it often misfires. I rarely used it anymore.

A coworker I got started on E-cigs at work gave up, saying the Ego's just weren't enough anymore. That's where my Lavatube went..

Didn't work for me, but a happy coworker.

Performance, like taste, can be subjective. Good luck all.
 

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Since you have never owned a Lavatube you should have refrained yourself from throwing a comparison.
The way you put the comparison shows how much you favor provari over lavatube..

I dont know why you would even attempt to throw a comparison after clearly stating that you have never owned a lavatube..
Just list the pro's of the provari and that's it..

You should have thought through it... Something typed through is like a round of fire.... once done you can't take it back.
Thank you for your perspective. It may be that my comments, although they were factual and unbiased, could be interpreted to be slanted more to what I was more familiar with. Still no reason for the hate though.
 

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I don't think anyone is trying to claim the Provari isn't a top of the line, high quality device. It is. But VW is superior to VV in my mind, and probably a majority of the people who've tried VW agree with me. I would quickly shell out the money for a VW Provari, but I'll wait until then to do so. Even one button operation would work fine on VW because you almost never have to fuss with it. But VV one button operation is not appealing to me because I find I have to adjust the voltage constantly to get the vape I want. This holds true when switching tanks, atomizers, and cartomizers, and even on the same tank, atty, and carto, because they tend to change resistance over time. Count me among those waiting for the next version of the Provari.
 

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I don't think anyone is trying to claim the Provari isn't a top of the line, high quality device. It is. But VW is superior to VV in my mind, and probably a majority of the people who've tried VW agree with me. I would quickly shell out the money for a VW Provari, but I'll wait until then to do so. Even one button operation would work fine on VW because you almost never have to fuss with it. But VV one button operation is not appealing to me because I find I have to adjust the voltage constantly to get the vape I want. This holds true when switching tanks, atomizers, and cartomizers, and even on the same tank, atty, and carto, because they tend to change resistance over time. Count me among those waiting for the next version of the Provari.

I wouldnt go so far as to say the majority of the people prefer variable wattage.A Provari delivers variable wattage it just doesnt show on a display and is needlessly complicated to some of us. Your mileage may vary.
 

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I wouldnt go so far as to say the majority of the people prefer variable wattage.A Provari delivers variable wattage it just doesnt show on a display and is needlessly complicated to some of us. Your mileage may vary.
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Although I have mostly enjoyed the debate concerning the merits of variable wattage vs variable voltage, this thread has gotten way off topic from my original post which had absolutely nothing to do with VW.
 

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I wouldnt go so far as to say the majority of the people prefer variable wattage.A Provari delivers variable wattage it just doesnt show on a display and is needlessly complicated to some of us. Your mileage may vary.

It is actually much less complicated. How can you take something that is less complicated and twist it to being needlessly complicated?

I think over the course of this thread I begin to understand why people become antagonistic about provari.

There is serious denial among many of the provari fateful over the shortcomings of the current model.
 

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:vapor::toast::party::vapor:

I have a twist and a YJ Lavatube.
Like both but the Lavatube works just a bit better then the Twist does.
After droping the lavatube last night and thinking I broke it I have been trying to decide on either the Zmax or the Provari. I just wish the Zmax had been out longer then it has so the reliability would be better understood.

I will keep using the lavatube at work or working on the hotrod but when at friends or just out to eat and at home I will use whatever I get.
 

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burnah, it is important to differentiate the mod and the mod owner. When folks put down the mod, they are really putting down the mod owner (similar to how people say they hate poodles). I have attempted to differentiate Provari owners from snobby Provari owners. There is also a big difference in them. Fortunately, I find most Provari owners to be just that...Provari owners. However, there is a number of snobby Provari owners who deserve the barbs they are receiving.

I hear ya Bronze and appreciate your patience.
In retrospect, I can see that my use of the word 'jealous', although tongue-in-cheek, could easily have been misinterpreted as arrogant/snobbish. :blush:
 

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I hear ya Bronze and appreciate your patience.
In retrospect, I can see that my use of the word 'jealous', although tongue-in-cheek, could easily have been misinterpreted as arrogant/snobbish. :blush:

There could be an element of jealousy on the part of the Provari haters. But I think BlueSnake said it best (and what we were really thinking). The Provari snobs have a way of trying to make others feel inferior by putting down the devices they are using. It comes off as very snobbish and insulting. Again, I find this to be true with only a minority of the Provari owners. I maintain the best remedy to this argument is to recognize that a Provari is in a league of its own and, to be fair, with a price tag to boot. In other words, "you get what you pay for" and it is no different why someone would prefer a Corolla over a Land Rover or visa versa. In a way, I feel sorry for the snobs because if all they have to boost their ego is a $200 gadget, then they must not have anything else more worthy of bragging on.
 
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