I'll go back to being in the market for a provari when they make a variable wattage model with more than one button. The interface of the provari is too limited as of now and VW is the way forward.
Eh anyone with a little math knowledge as well as ohms law can figure out wattage pretty easily. The one button thing is a good thing. Less to break IMHO.
My question is: Why all the hate for the Provari from a certain segment of this forum? It seems to me that this device gets a good share of accolades from owners and not, but it also gets more than its share of outspoken decenters (usually people who have never owned one) who seem to go out of their way to degrade Provaris or Provape.
So ECF, what is your opinion? Why all the hate? I only ask that the discussion be civil and unbiased.
stick with your ego twists or v-tubes and claim they work just as good as any other VV, anyone that knows anything about electronics knows better.
whoever can hate or say whatever they want, im sold on it. stick with your ego twists or v-tubes and claim they work just as good as any other VV, anyone that knows anything about electronics knows better.
Honestly, I don't understand what all the fuss is about with the single button menu system. It literally took me all of 10 minutes to master it. After a couple of days it became second nature to get where I wanted in the menu.The math ain't the problem, its all the clicking, and the need to have to do the math and clicking, clicking clicking clicking. I guess it isn't a problem if you stick with one atomizer all the time, but still if provari can make 1 button reliable then they can make 3 that will be clicked many fewer times to accomplish the same task just as reliable.
And the display is pretty far behind current tech as well.
None of this is a problem that would keep me from buying a provari, but the issue that is keeping me from buy one is that it is inevitable that they will make these changes. And that is the device I want, so I won't buy one now and perhaps the next week or month they announce a new model that I will have to have.
Or maybe they never will, but then I will just have to pick up something made with a DNA20 and provari will have lost a potential customer.
Honestly, I don't understand what all the fuss is about with the single button menu system. It literally took me all of 10 minutes to master it. After a couple of days it became second nature to get where I wanted in the menu.
-Five clicks to get into the menu mode.
-First function that comes up is Power Up. If that is the one you want, you press and hold as it scrolls up to the voltage you want. Release.
If not,
-Two more clicks gets you Power Down. {Press and hold as it scrolls down. Release.}
Wait three seconds and you can vape.
I only use two other functions rarely, Cb (or check battery) and the ohm tester Ao (for atomizer ohms). I simply click through the menu until the abreviations come up, and the Provari fires and does an "under load" measurement.
The Pu, Pd, Po, Cb, Co, Lo modes are always in this order, so you quickly learn to anticipate when your desired mode will show.
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To be fair, the display is not as nice or sharp as some that I have seen lately. I also am not aware of what advantage variable watts has over variable voltage. I already know what ohm atomizer I am using and what voltage I like with specific juice flavors, I just set the Provari appropriately. As someone pointed out already, more buttons is just more things to possibly break. I'd rather have one good working button than three mediocre ones.
So, realistically and pratically, its not the bee's knees that a lot of people have been claiming. I'm just a simple cartotanker. I use primarily the same 3.0 ohm single coil carto in all of my tanks, so to me V W is not a big breakthrough.The thing about the VW devices (I'm currently playing with a dna12) is you set it to the final wattage you want and it adjusts automatically when you switch heads. Now this is not the perfect solution people think it is because not all heads need the same amount of heat to work efficiently. I use 7W with my 3ohm vivi novas but only 5.3W with my 3ohm DID. So I need to do adjustments no matter what.
Not at all. I can't speak for their R & D team, but my guess is that they must be pretty happy with their current product judged by reports that they have recently hired additional staff to keep up with their current orders.Do you really think that provari would add two buttons and suddenly their button quility would be mediocre?
The above quote is a fair statement of opinion but it should be obvious why others would find it a bit offensive too.
In this realm I'm new and I love the VW kit I have and have never tried a Provari. I would want one if/when they do VW as it looks solid and they have a good claim to quality. I don't have any need to do the math related to VV as I don't have to, there's tech that does it for me. I'm a bit spoiled that way because I started after VW was available.
I am as amused with the fanboy behavior with PVs as I am with the Apple vs. Android. I can't imagine people being so concerned about the good name of a company that just wants to take your money.
I don't know who started it but I'm a big fan of the comment/quote "Whatever it takes to keep you off of cigarettes".
The menu is easy. Agreed
The 1,000,000 press rated button. very nice
So, realistically and pratically, its not the bee's knees that a lot of people have been claiming. I'm just a simple cartotanker. I use primarily the same 3.0 ohm single coil carto in all of my tanks, so to me V W is not a big breakthrough.