I'm not sure if I care for the direction LV is taking here lately. Plastic parts, the orion dt, the paranormal looks and so on.
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Waiting for the house to warm, it'll be a while. So far have run 4 juices in the jk mini and all are good. Not sure if it's the Fralien coil ot the atty design but I'm tasting more complex notes than in the other rtas.
I get why you're not crazy about the Recurve Eskie. For a cooler vape it works well but I wasn't impressed with the vape when I raised the watts up. I use it for bright fruits mostly.
Waiting for the house to warm, it'll be a while. So far have run 4 juices in the jk mini and all are good. Not sure if it's the Fralien coil ot the atty design but I'm tasting more complex notes than in the other rtas.
I get why you're not crazy about the Recurve Eskie. For a cooler vape it works well but I wasn't impressed with the vape when I raised the watts up. I use it for bright fruits mostly.
Sounds good! If you haven't tried yet - polenta fries (cooled down polenta in a tray, cut into fries and pan fried) go awesome with braised beef dishes, soak up the sauce nicely. If it was me I'd put a cold green bean salad with onions and either a citrus or vinegar dressing as a 2nd side to contrast the richness and sweetness from the braise.
Not that I'm trying to hijack your supper, just throwing some ideas out there since you haven't completely decided yet
I haven't had any issues with their Orion. It's actually become a very handy pod for when I'm out, even if I bring a bag or something I could use for a larger mod. Granted, I've only dropped it once, but it feels nice and solid.
The paranormal is a disappointment. I guess they had so many complaints with torn wraps they felt the bottom door option was best. Still, there was no reason to make to look cluttered with the tortoise shell and varying materials across the body. But their Triade remained true to its roots and the doors are backwards compatible.
I do get your concerns. And while I'm not a fan of all the design choices they've made, the build quality has been maintained. The Orion feels very good in hand and not like a cheap pod in hand. I think they might have spread themselves a little thin with all the new products, especially with adding the Modifined lower tier line, but I'm hopeful they'll keep up to standards on the future. The Orion seems like a big hit for them and the ongoing pod sales should provide them with a solid revenue stream without the ups and downs of getting big sales numbers only with new releases, forcing them to release a "fresh" product to keep the revenue somewhat more predictable and steady.
But if they end up bailing on quality DNA mods for a Chinese company our lives will become a bit more expensive for good DNA gear. That or another company like Think Vape will up their game and try to capitalize that hole in the market. Still, Think Vape's designs are not all that tasteful as LV usually pulls off.
On LV Facebook many love their orions but are having trouble with the dt. Seems it sits pretty shallow in the holder. As far as the paranormal the the look is just off and it is heavier which imo was an unnecessary and unwelcome side affect of the choices they made. Time will tell I guess. Just makes me a bit sad.
I've been lucky on the dt on my pods. The only thing I dislike is the little silver fill cap. I already lost one down the drain. No more refilling over a sink.
Triade is still the best design they make. Dunno why they just didn’t make that into a squonker.
They did – it’s called a Drone. There is obvious design challenges and it is not as easy as removing one of the 3 batteries and replacing it with a squonk bottle.
Triad is nice but too bulky shape wise for me. Wish LV would stick with the simple more elegant color schemes like the older Triads and Therions. These days seems like flashy or 3D print or full face screens are taking over the market. Guess I'm just set in my ways looks wise.
Come on. I’ve taken apart all of these mods. They had certain requirements when they made the drone but it’s definitely not a triade. No part of the drone is not a ground up design.
The design and manufacturing expenses would have been the same. But they wanted to keep the centered 510 which required the elevated 510 platform. Which also requires the cluster.... of tubing.
And again from a modest perspective it is that easy. I could do it.
Designing a product within Autocad is the easy part. The challenge is making your tooling work for the design and doing it within a said budget. Lost Vape is not a big company therefore they are restricted by their resources. Their current products, from what I see, is working within their tooling limitations and making the most of it.
Except the drone is a ground up design.
There are zero shared parts.
What you are saying would be an argument in favor of directly modifying the triade
There are zero shared parts.
What you are saying would be an argument in favor of directly modifying the triade
Sounds good! If you haven't tried yet - polenta fries (cooled down polenta in a tray, cut into fries and pan fried) go awesome with braised beef dishes, soak up the sauce nicely. If it was me I'd put a cold green bean salad with onions and either a citrus or vinegar dressing as a 2nd side to contrast the richness and sweetness from the braise.
Not that I'm trying to hijack your supper, just throwing some ideas out there since you haven't completely decided yet
If it was up to me I'd go with that, unfortunately polenta is a step too far - I love the stuff myself but it falls into the same category as black pudding, king prawns, risotto and spaghetti vongole. I'm perfectly entitled to cook and eat them myself provided they stay away from the communal dining table
.I'm going to get my own back one day though, I'm going to cook a haggis for supper and say it is an expensive organic dish ....
Just because it is a ground up design that does not mean they have invested in all new tooling which would be a huge invested and drive the cost up of the final product. Using the same tooling as the Triade, as an example, is a cost effective way of manufacturing. The tooling can be modified to accommodate the new design – this also comes at a cost, but you still have to work within the tooling’s limitations
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Ah so you're like me and married what in an area near me is commonly referred to as a "Schnöggel" (very picky when it comes to food).
Lucky for me I was able to train her slowly, she wouldn't eat any of the stuff we have now
There's still some stuff she won't touch (like capers) but from time to time there's something new she's only allowed to complain about after trying it (like red beet recently).
I don’t disagree with you. Which is why I’m confused they just didn’t modify the triade to be a squonker. If your contention is that it was cheaper for them to design an entirely new everything rather then an offset top plate to accodomate the therion bf 510. Then my only answer is
Wut.
There are video unboxings and a review on YouTube, not to mention presale sites with pictures up. Explain why you can't post pictures.
My contention is not that it is cheaper to design entirely new everything. It’s cheaper to work with your existing tooling rather than designing something that may require new tooling. And my comments are not exclusive to, they are just examples that explain some of the challenges with the process of design, to engineering to manufacturing.
Modifying the Triade to be a squonker also comes at a cost – that cost could be greater than creating a new design that still works within the limitations of your existing tooling. And because the Triade is not designed to be a squonker, there are challenges in making those modifications. We need a taller device in order to accommodate the squonk to 510 interface. We also need a battery sled to support the dual cells. With these 2 design aspects alone we now have something that resembles the current Drone.
Good to see that LV is heading the way of CoV with its product quality.
We'll have to rename it to the Council of Vapor Drone or Smok Drone.
We'll have to rename it to the Council of Vapor Drone or Smok Drone.
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