I definitely think that Ni80 is better for your net's as it's a more durable wireSo as our American friends would say...'I went ahead' and did my little Ni 80 vs Kanthal A1 test.
I built two identical resistance coils..well sort of 0.59 on the Kanthal and 0.62 on the Ni 80.
I used two Z 80 mods as power sources.
On the flavor side of things, the Kanthal does give off a little iron taste. I forgot about that actually. I used to crave that taste back in the day when I used synthetic flavors. Since i've been doing tobacco though, it's not that detectable...but if I concentrate and go looking for it, it's there...don't work for me that much on tobacco anymore though.
The Ni don't contain enough iron to be detected, so it tastes "more neutral" (for lack of a better word).
For the ramp up test I went real scientific
I placed a tank against each ear, and fired away. Then I switched the tanks around to the other sides and fired again...did that several times....I even went into my meditative state...so I can be totally in the moment
Both times Kanthal fired first. When I draw and try to detect which is faster...after multiple fires, they seem equally fast.
All in all I think i'm a Ni 80 convert now. Purely for it's purer taste
Well at least you're a likechromer now....don't be too hard on yourselfDamn, this Kumo is flying on newer heights with the Ni 80 coil (funny 2.5mm works way better than 3.0mm a coil in it)
Why didn't you people tell me about Ni 80 years ago?
Some friends you are...
Mind you typing "Ni80 is better than Kanthal" 578 times HAS brought on my repetitive typing injuries
Morning Shinies 
I'm building the Kumo today....promise!!
I built the Kreimhild ll RBA yesterday and it works a treat. Makes the tank much more restricted too which makes it usable. If you bought the kit it's a winner!!
Have a good day/evening all
I'm building the Kumo today....promise!!
I built the Kreimhild ll RBA yesterday and it works a treat. Makes the tank much more restricted too which makes it usable. If you bought the kit it's a winner!!
Have a good day/evening all
Might be worth trying that experiment again Fred. Kanthal has a higher resistance per length than Ni80.
Some specs here:
Nichrome VS Kanthal
Hi S!darn it. I should have consulted you T the other night when I was trying to buy coils and most everything was Ni80. I bypassed it all because, well because I was confused yet again
Might be worth trying out Ni80. I started using it when I was vaping rdas on mechs.
I loved the faster ramp up and preferred the taste to KA1.
I also liked that compared to SS, I was drawing less current on a similar build with Nichrome (higher ohms/ft). Felt safer.
Don't vape those setups so much now but I kind of got used to it. Still my fav wire.
Ni 80 has a higher heat capacity than Kanthal according to Steam Enjin.
The higher the HC the longer wire takes to heat up and cool down.
If I understand that right, then Kanthal heats up faster than Nicrome 80....or am I missing something?
Ni80 definitely ramps up faster than KA1.
From Kidney Puncher:
The wire you like is going to vary from person to person. The benefits of Kanthal are it is more sturdy, it can take more heat, and a lot of people find it easier to wrap with because it stays in place better. Nichrome 80 heats up faster, loses its heat faster, and doesn't contain iron.
Or from Temco:
Resistance Wire Overview
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Ni80 for me
SS and Kanthal both strip my throat
Ti is similar vaping to ni80 if you want TC. Just avoid cheap ti since impurities are nasty
I vape mech so stick with ni80
SS and Kanthal both strip my throat
Ti is similar vaping to ni80 if you want TC. Just avoid cheap ti since impurities are nasty
I vape mech so stick with ni80
Ni80 is weird for me. Great wire but I can only use it if I pair with kanthal or ss. I figure I might have a mild nickel sensitivity. Tricore ni80 is an awesome build but do prefer the ss for taste so would probably be using ss regardless.
I must not have as good of tastebuds as some here. I can use any wire and not taste that much of a difference. I do feel like I get a little better flavor with SS but it could be my imagination.
I checked and already have ten boxes of the 2s coils so decided to hold off until after Xmas to get more for the stockpile. I hope it's not a mistake. I really don't see China vendors stopping shipping any time soon.
You won the Innokin contest. CongratsMorning shinies
My Cloudflask-S coming from Oz and FT JK Mini both finally found flights to NZ
Yeah I read that. Again, not according to Steam Enjin. Check it out. Nichrome 80 has a higher heat capacity than Kanthal.
That actually makes sense to me. If Kanthal has a higher resistance than Ni 80 it has more "electric" friction, thus it'll heat faster.
I know it's the general consensus, and always been said that Ni 80 is faster than Kanthal, but Steam Enjin's figures shows that it's not.
Riddle...isn't it
I've used both wires extensively and there's no doubt that the same build on Ni80 ramps up faster than KA1.Yeah I read that. Again, not according to Steam Enjin. Check it out. Nichrome 80 has a higher heat capacity than Kanthal.
That actually makes sense to me. If Kanthal has a higher resistance than Ni 80 it has more "electric" friction, thus it'll heat faster.
I know it's the general consensus, and always been said that Ni 80 is faster than Kanthal, but Steam Enjin's figures shows that it's not.
Riddle...isn't it
Try this experiment - try a 5 wrap round wire build of 24G Kanthal and a 5 wrap round wire build of 24G Nichrome and you'll know straight away. It's not even a subtle difference.
That's one reason why mech users like it - you can have a bulky coil with Ni80 that ramps up nice and fast.
I've had a look at the wire wizard calculator on Steam Engine and can see the numbers and read the definition of heat capacity, but it's not clear how that applies to ramp up time.
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