Terminator/Nautilus/Choddy/Oddy Clone Pics, Tip,Tricks and Quirks

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pizza2me

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I've heard of it being done, but you really need to use NR / R wire for these attys...

Thanks tecno. I figured that. But, what would be the reasoning (remember... total Oddy dumas here... ), dangerous? inefficient? both? Just plain dumb??

I'm a curious, lazy and cheap bashted. :)
 

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Thanks tecno. I figured that. But, what would be the reasoning (remember... total Oddy dumas here... ), dangerous? inefficient? both? Just plain dumb??

I'm a curious, lazy and cheap bashted. :)

NR wire is pretty cheap, and ready wires @ $9.99 for 50 are too.. ;) The runs of R wire heating up would be too long. Using the NR / R wire setup, the heat from the R wire is solely concentrated around your wick, giving you better performance, vapor, and flavor...Don't have to worry about the wire legs wasting power and heat either..
 

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NR wire is pretty cheap, and ready wires @ $9.99 for 50 are too.. ;) The runs of R wire heating up would be too long. Using the NR / R wire setup, the heat from the R wire is solely concentrated around your wick, giving you better performance, vapor, and flavor...Don't have to worry about the wire legs wasting power and heat either..

perfect! And it makes sense! Thanks tecno.
 

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I haven't kept up with this thread, but i recently got a kayfun lite and i love it. Best atty ever. Now I want to get the kayfun conversion to breath new life into my one of my Term-C's. Is anybody selling one? I don't have access to the classifieds because I'm a vendor. Or can someone give details on how to order one from the maker? Thanks!
 

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I am having a crisis of faith.

After a few months of bliss with my Terminator C, I get a Hercules and an MKB-TS. First time I setup the Herc, with cotton and some ready wires, it runs amazing.

Since then, every build on my Term C or Herc has been garbage. Either it leaks, or it gets dry (burning the cotton). I've tried cotton and 3mm silica in every combination I can think of: no joy. I used to be able to have some wiggle room as to how open my flow valve should be, now it's either bone dry or gurgling all over the place. Same issues with both atomizers.

What in the heck am I missing? Nothing I can think of is different.

I'm using my RSST, and it works, but I want to go back to flavor country! Help!
 
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I am having a crisis of faith.

After a few months of bliss with my Terminator C, I get a Hercules and an MKB-TS. First time I setup the Herc, with cotton and some ready wires, it runs amazing.

Every build on my Term C or Herc since has been garbage. Either it leaks, or it gets dry (burning the cotton). I've tried cotton and 3mm silica in every combination I can think of: no joy. I used to be able to have some wiggle room as to how open my flow valve should be, now it's either bone dry or gurgling all over the place. Same issues with both atomizers.

What in the heck am I missing? Nothing I can think of is different.

I'm using my RSST, and it works, but I want to go back to flavor country! Help!
I have been not using my Terminators since getting an Ithaka and Ithaka clones, until yesterday when I put in a micro @ 0.75 with 28 gauge nichrome and cotton. It's out performing my dual coil silica builds on Ithaka at the same resistance. WOW
Make sure that the channel across the top of the ceramic is full to the top of the slot with wick.
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This was the first one that I did yesterday, I had to redo it because my 32 gauge nickel wasn't playing well with the 28 gauge nichrome so I twisted two pieces of nickel for each NR leg.
This is working far beyond my expectations.
 

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That's wierd float, is it flooding the atomizer or just leaking out the 510.
But wait on both... so its not the oring's, sounds like your well experienced with them so skip the easy stuff. Are we going straight to the wicking itself ? Some more details?
On the term have you tried 3 mm silica trimmed flush with the outside of the ceramic with no wick in the channels. I can run my oddy juice control opened fully with that set up.
After you fill as soon as you tighten the cap set it upside down for a minute to let the air purge and pressure stabilize - no initial gurgle problem. Open that juice control when you get the initial juice vaped and keep opening as needed. Sorry if you covered this already.
Maybe your twisting your coils too tight on the wick, or cotton is too thick.

Juicy pic, with 3 mm silica trimmed at the ceramic none down the channels you can see how it fully fills the channel and is not pinched off at all. If you chose you can use 1 or 2 strands from bottom of wick to run down the channels as insulator. Cut the rest flush.

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I'm going to rebuild my Euforia tomorrow I think and try this no side channel wick nonsense lol. I just don't get how it works. The only time my Euforia or terms leak or get gurgling is when they're nearly empty , don't suppose the no side channels thing fixes that ? Or is that just a pressure issue that you just have to deal with no matter what.
 

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I'm going to rebuild my Euforia tomorrow I think and try this no side channel wick nonsense lol. I just don't get how it works. The only time my Euforia or terms leak or get gurgling is when they're nearly empty , don't suppose the no side channels thing fixes that ? Or is that just a pressure issue that you just have to deal with no matter what.


I don't get any leaks or gurgling at all, and I always vape pretty much to the bottom of my tanks..
 

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It looks like my cotton issues are simply a matter of using way too much cotton.

I think I just started using more and more cotton slowly with each build, cause I didn't have problems with it in the past.... but I just tried a new build, very light on the cotton, and it's performing beautifully.

I'll try again on the Term C, see if I can't figure this thing out for good, but I feel like the leaking issues I've been having with it might not be solved with just a better wick setup... but at this point I have no idea.
 

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Originally Posted by dwcraig1
Make sure that the channel across the top of the ceramic is full to the top of the slot with wick.

If I didn't do this could it be the cause of juice coming out of the mouthpiece every once in a while when wife is vaping upside down? (Bedridden at times)

Bringing this back up because I don't get it. I vape it all day. upside down a bit. Never get juice in my mouth. But, not near as long as she is when she's stuck on her back. And, I can't figure out where it's coming from. It's working good for me now :) So I don't really want to tear it apart. But, if it is possible I don't have the slots filled enough and is causing this, I will do it. I will eventually just do it, but would like confirmation from the pros if somebody knows.

And... since I'm here.... Where's a good/best place to get NR wire?

Thanks!
 

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Bringing this back up because I don't get it. I vape it all day. upside down a bit. Never get juice in my mouth. But, not near as long as she is when she's stuck on her back. And, I can't figure out where it's coming from. It's working good for me now :) So I don't really want to tear it apart. But, if it is possible I don't have the slots filled enough and is causing this, I will do it. I will eventually just do it, but would like confirmation from the pros if somebody knows.

And... since I'm here.... Where's a good/best place to get NR wire?

Thanks!

Another question. when wrapping a coil, using ready wires, I'm assuming it's best to get all of the R wire on the coil. Better to have a little NR wire on the coil, then to have a little R wire not touching the coil. Am I correct?

It could be the condensation built up, it collects around the ceramic cup. Yes make sure all the R wire is touching the wick.
 

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It could be the condensation built up, it collects around the ceramic cup. Yes make sure all the R wire is touching the wick.

Thanks goodink!
I thought it might be condensation, but once when I tasted it after she got some, it seemed to strong to be condensation. More like straight juice. But... in case it is condensation, I wonder if I can stick a little wad of cotton in there somewhere. Right on the coil, it may stay wet enough to not burn. Or in the base of the juice adjuster around the hole.... hmmmm.... Thanks!

Any other ideas?


ya... that's what I meant. Better to have a little NR touching the wick rather than a little R hanging off. Right?
 

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Alright, it seems I was right. My Term C is leaking like a mother trucker, right out the 510, as soon as I fill it.

I assume I have some sort of issue with the o-ring seal? Even so, I can't get my head around where the juice is coming from and how it gets there.

I'm still a noob with this so someone correct me if I'm wrong.
There is only a couple places it could be coming from unless it's flooding like crazy. The o-ring on the post, or the o-ring at the cup. Make sure the cup is tight, the o-ring on the post shouldn't leak no matter what if the top mouth piece is making a good seal. From my understanding the o-ring on the post is more for keeping the post from shifting side to side and shorting.
 

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Alright, it seems I was right. My Term C is leaking like a mother trucker, right out the 510, as soon as I fill it.

I assume I have some sort of issue with the o-ring seal? Even so, I can't get my head around where the juice is coming from and how it gets there.


You are making sure the juice control is closed before filling, right? Other than that, make sure your top cap O-ring is good, and the cap is screwed down tight.

EDIT: BTW, When you're screwing down the cap, don't do it in one shot.. Go about half-way, then back it off to let trapped air out. I like to turn the Term-C upside-down when the cap is half in, then, tighten it down the rest of the way.
 
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