Terminator/Nautilus/Choddy/Oddy Clone Pics, Tip,Tricks and Quirks

[dwcraig1]

If I take too many consecutive hits in a row, I'll get a bit of juice around the air controller. I probably need to double up on top like you mentioned.

If your getting juice inside the air control housing but not out the air hole inthe bottom of the 510's post then the bottom o-ring is leaking.
It's really important that the center pin is centered other wise it stretches that o-ring all over the place during tightening. It will be like a round peg in an egg shaped hole.

 

[Scope666]

I would try cranking the watts up. possibly just under powered for the amount of juice wicked. On one of my builds on the Russian, it was getting good vape but with a gurgle sound, was only at ~12 watts at the time, kicked it up to 15 watts and dang near knocked me over. Great Vape. Have you tried turning down your juice control a tad?

Yeah, I have it barely open now... on my Herc it's VERY picky about where the juice control sits, it's either dry or wanting to flood with very subtle changes. My Oddy doesn't care, can have it really open wide and it still never floods.

 

[dwcraig1]

Yeah, I have it barely open now... on my Herc it's VERY picky about where the juice control sits, it's either dry or wanting to flood with very subtle changes. My Oddy doesn't care, can have it really open wide and it still never floods.

On the Terminator it was always that 9 x 2 mm mouthpiece o-ring not sealing for what ever reason so when I experieced the same symtoms on my Ithaka I ordered 50 9 x 2.5 mm o-rings for it. Got them, put one in and still had the problem, it was the 16 x 1 mm o-ring on the upper body (next o-ring down) that was allowing air to enter.
It sounds like the same symtoms as what I had going on, ok, then minor flooding, i'd mess with it and it would maybe be OK for awhile and then back to minor flooding.
Btw, my mouthpiece is generally about 2/3 of the way open.

This is an Ithaka, well almost, the window and the mouthpiece is 3rd party Oddy parts. This is how far the mouthpiece has been open for the last three hours since I open it to take a picture of the coils for another thread.

I have corrected the mouthpiece o-ring sizes listed above as they were incorrect, hopefully nobody ordered any using the previously posted sizes.

Terminator mouthpiece o-ring size is 9 x 2 mm, tank o-ring size is 16 x 1.5 mm

Hercules mouthpiece o--ring size is 9 x 2.5 mm, tank o-ring size is 16 x 1 mm (optional size 17 x 1 mm)

 

[Scope666]

On the Terminator it was always that 9 x 1.5 mm mouthpiece o-ring not sealing for what ever reason so when I experieced the same symtoms on my Ithaka I ordered 50 9 x 2 mm o-rings for it. Got them, put one in and still had the problem, it was the 16 x 1 mm o-ring on the upper body (next o-ring down) that was allowing air to enter.
It sounds like the same symtoms as what I had going on, ok, then minor flooding, i'd mess with it and it would maybe be OK for awhile and then back to minor flooding.
Btw, my mouthpiece is generally about 2/3 of the way open.

Yeah, maybe one of Hercules tank o-rings is the culprit .. they all "feel" pretty good when I assemble everything

 

[dwcraig1]

Yeah, maybe one of Hercules tank o-rings is the culprit .. they all "feel" pretty good when I assemble everything

Mine was near new and looked good

 

[dwcraig1]

Here we have two set ups that pretty much vape exactly the same, can you guess the difference?
Give up? How about $317

Chi You clone from FT $27 with Ithaka clone from FT $33
Turtle Ship $180, Ithaka $197
Just got the Turtle last night cause??

 

[Scope666]

Here we have two set ups that pretty much vape exactly the same, can you guess the difference?
Give up? How about $317

Chi You clone from FT $27 with Ithaka clone from FT $33
Turtle Ship $180, Ithaka $197
Just got the Turtle last night cause??

I have almost the same (clone) setup, except I have them swapped. Ithaka on Sigelei 8W (Caravella clone) and Oddy on Chi-you... this way they both have air control.

 

[dwcraig1]

But of coarse I only use them with a GGTS base, just put the AC parts on for the pics
(MKB-TS')
I really hate 510's but they seem to be a fact of life.

 

[GoodInk]

So from that last few posts, I'm guessing it sounds like my center post o-ring (very bottim one) on a Term is not seeling? It's leaking like crazy while filling, but once it is put togher it stops leaking. I can't tell if it is coming from the airflow hole or around the center pin, it's leaking too much to tell.

 

[dwcraig1]

So from that last few posts, I'm guessing it sounds like my center post o-ring (very bottim one) on a Term is not seeling? It's leaking like crazy while filling, but once it is put togher it stops leaking. I can't tell if it is coming from the airflow hole or around the center pin, it's leaking too much to tell.

I sounds as if your mouthpiece isn't closed or not sitting flat against the locking ring as it should, something of that nature. Are you trapping the negative wire under the ring?

 

[GoodInk]

Yes I trap it with the ring. I just use the wick across the top and didn't think it would be good leaving it loose in the channel with no wick to wrap it around. If I blow in the bottom with my finger over the mouth peice, it's leaking air from under the ring, I did this with out the tank on. Where can I secure the neg wire with just using a wick across the top?

 

[Scope666]

Yes I trap it with the ring. I just use the wick across the top and didn't think it would be good leaving it loose in the channel with no wick to wrap it around. If I blow in the bottom with my finger over the mouth peice, it's leaking air from under the ring, I did this with out the tank on. Where can I secure the neg wire with just using a wick across the top?

You can sometimes make a right angle and try to catch it under the threads of that ring.

 

[JeremyR]

I'm thinking replace posi oring ink. You can take top off put finger over mouthpiece. Drain the tank then take mouthpiece off while covering 510 to slow the drain and see if the chamber is flooded that should give you a clear answer.

On a side note the loosening of my top cap really helps when fluid is below the coil. I got my first hint of dry hit round noon loosened the top cap and was able to chain vape it into oblivion till the tank was completely dry.

 

[GoodInk]

It turns out it was just too much of an air leak from trapping the wire. I just pushed the wire down in to the channel and it seems to hold it in there pretty good, though the coil did go up 0.1 ohms. Here is a pic encase you are not following.

 

[dwcraig1]

It turns out it was just too much of an air leak from trapping the wire. I just pushed the wire down in to the channel and it seems to hold it in there pretty good, though the coil did go up 0.1 ohms. Here is a pic encase you are not following.

You're on to it

 

[Scope666]

You're on to it

Other trick you can do is make a right angle like one or two threads up from the base, and then try and get the lock ring to trap it (think eBaron dripper if you've ever seen one, same method)

 

[villarino1k]

I only have one v2 and it is from GG, I believe that I removed the o-ring that sits under the nut in the ceramic but am not sure. What I am sure about though is having or not having it there is not causing leaking problems. Besides the mouthpiece o-ring the next o-ring below it would be another spot that could let air enter the tank as that is surely what's happening.

The next o ring below? Are you talking about the large oring going around the tank itself?

 

[dwcraig1]

The next o ring below? Are you talking about the large o-ring going around the tank itself?

The tank o-ring, the top one, yes

 

[villarino1k]

The tank o-ring, the top one, yes

Ordered some 16x1. Hopefully that fixes my problem. It's just mind boggling especially since I got it to work before just by changing the stock top mouthpiece o ring to some new 9x2. Mind you, I got it to work after many different builds without any leaks even with the mouthpiece almost completely open before. Now, I can only open it half a turn or less or else juice slowly leaks out from the center pin hole.

Btw, I'm using 3mm silica doubled up at top.

 

[villarino1k]

I guess I'll be okay even if that doesn't fix my leaking problem since I have 4 kayfun conversion kits coming.

It'll definitely bug me knowing I couldn't get it to work properly like before :/