The Diketone free tested vendors list

[440BB]

Everything these days is heavy on the VG percentage.
So that leaves me with VERY few options.

I think Mr e-liquid still offers their PG blends, and they've gotten through testing too. About 1/3 VG is my limit still, but I mix most of our liquid now.

 

[DC2]

I think Mr e-liquid still offers their PG blends, and they've gotten through testing too. About 1/3 VG is my limit still, but I mix most of our liquid now.

Yeah, I really like their RY4, but haven't found any other flavors of theirs that made the cut.

 

[WharfRat1976]

Question. I smoked Reds. How many ppm of D or AP in this analog verse the highest ppm of D or AP found in any eliquid?

Just curious. Thanks for any responses.

 

[herb]

Question. I smoked Reds. How many ppm of D or AP in this analog verse the highest ppm of D or AP found in any eliquid?

Just curious. Thanks for any responses.

Unless you have tried and tested every e liquid on the planet there's no way to answer that . Not many thought that some of the initial test's of the famous and popular "Five Pawns" juices had levels higher than real cigarettes .

Diketone amounts not only will be different between vendors but different flavorings in the same vendors juice line , some "Five Pawns" juices were lower as well .

It would be fantastic if consumers knew what every vendors juices contained but thats rarely the case there days.

Whats troubling to me is the very different results that sometimes occur between juices that have been pulled randomly from a vendors line and tested without their knowledge and the results that are seen when a vendor is informed before their juices are going to be tested.

Leads me to believe that a vendors own testing and their prior knowledge of a test that is about to happen is not the most effective way in determining what consumers are likely to receive.

The results of testing when a vendor performs their own or has prior knowledge of an upcoming test seems to always result in lower diketone percentages than pulling juices randomly without a company's prior knowledge.

So , unless you have access to every e juice it's impossible to say with certainty but thinking they all our similar in concentration percentages of diketone's is foolish imo .

 

[440BB]

Question. I smoked Reds. How many ppm of D or AP in this analog verse the highest ppm of D or AP found in any eliquid?

Just curious. Thanks for any responses.

The correct answer is eleven

 

[AngiBe]

Naturally Extracted Tobacco has second round testing information on their website. Been up for a little while but I keep forgetting to post it here.
www.Naturally-Extracted-Tobacco.com, e-liquids for electronic cigarettes

The FIRST ROUND of testing included a few of our "hybrid" flavorings (caramel, Madagascar vanilla), one of our eLiquids (tRY4.1) and 16 of our extracts (Big Spirit, NS Dark, Black Cavendish, Deep Caramel Pipe, Coventry, Brigadier Peach, Orange Blossom Honey, Framboises et Vanille, Fresh Ground Mocha Cafe, Starry Night, the Ruins, Red Virginia, Choctaw Perique, Sun Cured Turkish, Smoked Latakia, and Black Pekoe Tea extract which is used in both the Black Pekoe Tea and SweeTea eLiquids).

Wth our SECOND ROUND of testing, we now have results for additional tobacco extracts (Air Cured Burley, Balkan, Black Cherry, Bombay, Chris' Blend, Excalibur, Hot Chocolate, Mango Vanilla, Natural Cavendish, Oak Cask, and Rum Rebellion), and more of our "Hybrid" flavorings (Blackberry #1, Black Walnut, French Vanilla, Maple, Peach, Red Apple, and Strawberry). Additional results for Mexican Vanilla ("Hybrid" flavoring) and Buttered Rum (tobacco extract) which are both being used in currently unreleased products we plan to add soon! We are very happy to announce that all 20 of the tested products from round 2 came back as Non-detected (ND) for all three diketone targets!

We decided to test the extracts as they are undiluted and thus more likely to show if any diketones were present as testing the eLiquid would be more likely to show as Not Detected (ND) if the dilution brought a concentration below the limit of detection of the assay (GC-MS).

To view the results, click on the eLiquid or extract of any of the above-mentioned products, then click the Lab Analysis: diketones tab next to the product description tab.

We will continue testing until all of our extracts and hybrid flavorings have been analyzed, and will in all cases post the results as we receive them.

THANK YOU for posting this!!!! Ordering this week from NET, finally!!

 

[The Au Hawk]

I found a couple more to add the the list of diketone free.
About Our E-Liquid – Circuit E-Liquid Company
Texas Select Vapor: USA E-Liquid & Premium Electronic Cigarettes
The DA/AP analysis is attached to each juice page on both manufacturers above. They also participate in NicTrace for every batch of their e-liquids.

 

[AngiBe]

Naturally Extracted Tobacco has second round testing information on their website. Been up for a little while but I keep forgetting to post it here.
www.Naturally-Extracted-Tobacco.com, e-liquids for electronic cigarettes

The FIRST ROUND of testing included a few of our "hybrid" flavorings (caramel, Madagascar vanilla), one of our eLiquids (tRY4.1) and 16 of our extracts (Big Spirit, NS Dark, Black Cavendish, Deep Caramel Pipe, Coventry, Brigadier Peach, Orange Blossom Honey, Framboises et Vanille, Fresh Ground Mocha Cafe, Starry Night, the Ruins, Red Virginia, Choctaw Perique, Sun Cured Turkish, Smoked Latakia, and Black Pekoe Tea extract which is used in both the Black Pekoe Tea and SweeTea eLiquids).

Wth our SECOND ROUND of testing, we now have results for additional tobacco extracts (Air Cured Burley, Balkan, Black Cherry, Bombay, Chris' Blend, Excalibur, Hot Chocolate, Mango Vanilla, Natural Cavendish, Oak Cask, and Rum Rebellion), and more of our "Hybrid" flavorings (Blackberry #1, Black Walnut, French Vanilla, Maple, Peach, Red Apple, and Strawberry). Additional results for Mexican Vanilla ("Hybrid" flavoring) and Buttered Rum (tobacco extract) which are both being used in currently unreleased products we plan to add soon! We are very happy to announce that all 20 of the tested products from round 2 came back as Non-detected (ND) for all three diketone targets!

We decided to test the extracts as they are undiluted and thus more likely to show if any diketones were present as testing the eLiquid would be more likely to show as Not Detected (ND) if the dilution brought a concentration below the limit of detection of the assay (GC-MS).

To view the results, click on the eLiquid or extract of any of the above-mentioned products, then click the Lab Analysis: diketones tab next to the product description tab.

We will continue testing until all of our extracts and hybrid flavorings have been analyzed, and will in all cases post the results as we receive them.

FINALLY ordered some NET yesterday!! Of course missed the 15% of Christmas special and got so confused on what to order that I just threw random stuff in my cart and hoping for the best

Anyone know what the average steep time is for his juices?

 

[metapuff]

another thread! ok i posted this on the "other" thread. (hopefully these two can be combined)
many vendors are being added to the "list" in these threads "BUT" all but 3 vendors only test for 2 substances
leaving out the third which is Acetoin (which is known to turn into Diacetyl when heated)

the 3 vendors that test for

Diacetyl (2,3-butanedione)
Acetylpropionyl (2,3-pentanedione)
Acetoin (aka- 3-Hydroxybutanone and Acetyl methyl carbinol


are:

Totally Wicked
The Clean Vape
Texas Select Vapor

 

[AngiBe]

another thread! ok i posted this on the "other" thread. (hopefully these two can be combined)
many vendors are being added to the "list" in these threads "BUT" all but 3 vendors only test for 2 substances
leaving out the third which is Acetoin (which is known to turn into Diacetyl when heated)

the 3 vendors that test for

Diacetyl (2,3-butanedione)
Acetylpropionyl (2,3-pentanedione)
Acetoin (aka- 3-Hydroxybutanone and Acetyl methyl carbinol


are:

Totally Wicked
The Clean Vape
Texas Select Vapor

I also asked about if vendors tested for acetoin and no one really knew. I think this is going to have to be asked directly to the vendors if they are testing for this along with DA/AP.

 

[MagnusEunson]

Anyone know what the average steep time is for his juices?

I favor Black Note in the NET space and find they require no steeping at all - they're fairly level from the start and don't seem to change much, if at all, over the course of two months (which is the longest I've had an unopened bottle). -Mags

 

[NoFumus]

I searched this thread, but didn't find Vaporham Lincoln, which also tests for acetoin. Results are available on each juice's page. Their 120mls are currently on sale for $20.

 

[metapuff]

thanks NoFumus!

vendors that test for

Diacetyl (2,3-butanedione)
Acetylpropionyl (2,3-pentanedione)
Acetoin (aka- 3-Hydroxybutanone and Acetyl methyl carbinol


are:

Totally Wicked
The Clean Vape
Texas Select Vapor
Vaporham Lincoln (some eliquids contain varying amounts of the tested substances and some eliquids that are clear)

 

[JeansV]

True, I dunno if it'd really work or not, but I think I'd be more than willing to cough up $20 or so with a dozen others if we we could agree that it was something we were vaping all day and wanted an independent look at what's really in it. Frankly it'd probably help keep pressure on vendors too that many people actually care about this sort of thing. A lot of the recent controversy seems to come not just from VaporShark testing other manufacturers juice, but also individuals saying "Ok, I'm willing to pay the $150 to see what's in this"--that's obviously really cost-prohibitive for an individual though.

Right, I would like to send in some of my favorite juices (Highbrow) for testing. But how do you go about this? I couldn't see anything on their website that would have indicated how an individual can sent in samples. Are you sure about the costs ($150)?

 

[DC2]

Right, I would like to send in some of my favorite juices (Highbrow) for testing. But how do you go about this? I couldn't see anything on their website that would have indicated how an individual can sent in samples. Are you sure about the costs ($150)?

Right, I would like to send in some of my favorite juices (Highbrow) for testing. But how do you go about this? I couldn't see anything on their website that would have indicated how an individual can sent in samples. Are you sure about the costs ($150)?

Here is a place where you can send liquids for testing...
GCMS Testing - Nude Nicotine

 

[klrcommute]

Anyone know what the average steep time is for his juices?

I've actually found it to be really good on arrival. Mostly pipe blends, a couple cigarette tobacco.

 

[NoFumus]

I couldn't find Biggleworth Labs on your list. Testing for diacetyl and acetylpropionyl on each juice's page. No test for acetoin. Permanent coupon at Juicedb.

 

[cigarbabe]

Some folks are claiming that Mt Baker does not sell or offer juices with any diketone ,acetylpropionyl or acetoin. Is this correct? I don't see them listed on the google spreadsheet.
C.B.

 

[Gauntlgrym]

Some folks are claiming that Mt Baker does not sell or offer juices with any diketone ,acetylpropionyl or acetoin. Is this correct? I don't see them listed on the google spreadsheet.
C.B.

well, I can tell you this.....
if MBV doesn't post test results on the website, and they won't email you test results...........then they probably have diketones, acetoin, etc in them.

 

[cigarbabe]

well, I can tell you this.....
if MBV doesn't post test results on the website, and they won't email you test results...........then they probably have diketones, acetoin, etc in them.

That is what I figured.
Thank you!
C.B.