The Hangsen Thread

[Ld3441]

Congratulations on finding a mix. I think you will like the hangsen flavors. You will most likely find that the flavor you like will quickly get tiring. So don't be afraid to try them all. The selections you have are not a sweet sickening tobacco and are distinctly different from each other. Don't be afraid to switch and go from one to another. The change in flavor throughout the day is what will keep you on track and away from cigarettes. I carry 3 to 4 flavors with me at all times in seperate cartos and switch constantly throughout the day.

As a recent ex smoker the flavors may be a bit light because the old taste buds are still on real cigarette time and until your taste buds recover and taste starts coming back don't be afraid to go to 7% on these flavors.

Thanks for the advice Danny. I am just happy to find 1 that I can say is good at this point. I am not afraid to try them all and I am sure I will get around to that. I don't plan on sticking to just one but for today that one was good. As for going up to 7%, I'm just going to wait a bit and see how this matures. I don't want to rush to things too quickly only to discover it needed steeping and is fine where it is. I also vape lots of other flavors besides tobacco so I am sure I will not tire of it soon. I hope to eventually have many tobacco flavors I enjoy and can also share with my brother who I hope will take up vaping soon.

 

[SCOTT-3]

thought i give this a try for Gitanes e-like, flavour's i will have are,
tobacco absolute pure
hangsen RY1
::::::::: Turkish blend
::::::::: Flue cured
::::::::: Pipe
any suggestion on which flavour's for bass, mid, top, notes
bass note at 5%
mid note at 2%
top note at 1%

 

[JeremyR]

In general these are finished flavors. Im I thinking 4% pipe 3%. Flue . Or 3&4

 

[Sdh]

In general these are finished flavors. Im I thinking 4% pipe 3%. Flue . Or 3&4

I would also start with this.
at the same time I would make a sample bottle of 4% pipe, 2% flue and 1% turkish. You may have to adjust to your flavoring needs.

 

[SCOTT-3]

cheer's guys, thats given me a good starting point, so disregard ry1 & t/a, probably with the other three flavours theres enough combinations,
mixed at 24mg seems like one hell of a vape can't wait

 

[Ld3441]

I know tobaccos need to steep and will get better in time. My question is how long should you wait before you decide to change the percentage? I have now tried all 3 flavors and they are weak to me. I mixed at 5% and the flavor is there but I'm not sure if I should wait it out or up the percentage. How long do you usually wait to decide? That said I think I am going to like all three once I get full flavor!

 

[JeremyR]

One thought I've had is that percentages sometimes vary from person to person based on your set up. Some attys put out weak flavor some strong. Also I'm noticing for sure that unfortunately there isn't one standard % you can mix all of the at. However I do like to start at 5%. Some are really strong at first and need to mellow and some are really weak and need to peak.

3-4 weeks is the only way to be sure.. I took church to nine because it didn't taste right and it was way too much. Went to 5% on next batch and steeped 3-4 & it was good .

People are on the fence about it.. but one hot tap water bath with some 20 sec shakes can cut a week off steep time, especially with higher vg juices. You can try that and test them the next day. Ultrasonic is best fast steep method.

Add in moderation then. If you can save off some of that 5% for a few weeks that would help you know for sure.

 

[tfnc]

Ok been stalking this thread for a while now,thought it was time i gave some input. Been DIY for a while, but got my first Hangsen flavors in couple weeks ago...My experiences so far: Desert ship>>>Mixed this up at 4% 50/50 Let it steep for a week.Fresh cotton in a micro coil in a IGO dripper.No flavor...hummm my 1st thought is what didi I do wrong.Dont panic yet just let it steep more.
Next up was RY3 same set up after week steep. Flavor is week but has a nice dry nutty Flavor.Hard to describe but nice none the less.
2-1/2 weeks steep time... RY3 is nice could use a little something just not figured out what yet
Desert ship: No flavor what so ever.Going to up to at least 6% and see what happens.

Ok bumped up desert to 7%....NICE...I like it a lot! Made a huge difference from 4% Still working with the RY3 trying to find the sweet spot.

 

[Ohio Points]

Pardon moi if I missed it, but at what percentage are you mixing this?
I just got it and it smells killer.

Hangsen

Is the Bomb!

 

[michaelsil1]

Pardon moi if I missed it, but at what percentage are you mixing this?
I just got it and it smells killer.

I mixed the DJ Rum at 5%

 

[dannyv45]

thought i give this a try for Gitanes e-like, flavour's i will have are,
tobacco absolute pure
hangsen RY1
::::::::: Turkish blend
::::::::: Flue cured
::::::::: Pipe
any suggestion on which flavour's for bass, mid, top, notes
bass note at 5%
mid note at 2%
top note at 1%

If the tobacco absolute is pure as you say (Tar like thickness) mix 2 drops in 10mls and use that as your concentrate at 2 - 3%. That will give any of the other tobacco flavors a truer tobacco taste.

Turkish is a stronger tobacco taste
Flue cured is milder
pipe is a milder slighty fruty taste
Ry1 is a mid strength dryer tobacco with a very slight sweetness but no where near the sweetness of ry4 that goes really good with 1 - 2 % hangsen vanilla. Good to add some TA to that to. This one is one of my ADV's

Anyone mixed with TA will make a good base.

 

[dannyv45]

I know tobaccos need to steep and will get better in time. My question is how long should you wait before you decide to change the percentage? I have now tried all 3 flavors and they are weak to me. I mixed at 5% and the flavor is there but I'm not sure if I should wait it out or up the percentage. How long do you usually wait to decide? That said I think I am going to like all three once I get full flavor!

I do these at 7% but pipe and flue are weaker and may need 8 - 9% or add 2 - 3% TA. Give them a good week before adjusting.

 

[Ld3441]

I do these at 7% but pipe and flue are weaker and may need 8 - 9% or add 2 - 3% TA. Give them a good week before adjusting.

They were mixed 2 weeks ago. I haven't made any adjustments as of now and didn't want to add to the weak flavor only to have it intensify in a couple of weeks. Do you think after 2 weeks if it is still weak it is time to adjust? How much do you think it will gain in another 2 weeks?

 

[dannyv45]

Yes it's time to adjust. Add 2 - 3% of TA and steep another 3 days and try them again.

Remember

If the tobacco absolute is pure as you say (Tar like thickness) mix 2 drops in 10mls of plain PG and use that as your concentrate at 2 - 3%.

If it's the thinner stuff (About the consistancy of PG and a pale brownish yellow in color) then it's already mixed down to a 10% solution so just add 2 - 3%

If its very dark brown and a little thicker then VG it may alread be cut by 50%. So in that case you need to add 4 drops to 10ml PG and then use at 2 - 3%.

 

[Ld3441]

I don't have any TA!
Instead I will increase the flavor 2% and see how that goes. My list of next purchase items is growing by leaps and bounds!

Do you think it is better to add TA rather than increasing the flavor?

 

[dannyv45]

ops! got you mixed up with SCOTT-3

Yes add 2% more hangsen flavor and steep 2 more days. As your original mix is already steeped and your not using TA 2 more days steep should do it.

TA will enhance the tobacco flavor without eliminating any of the overtones such as the nutty or fruity note. So it should be used to get more natural tobacco taste if the mix is lacking that (which in most cases is the problem).

TA is very important for the synthetic tobacco flavors such as TFA but not as important with hangsen as those flavors use natural tobacco essence in there flavors. It really enhances the weaker hangsen tobacco flavors such as the smooth, pipe and flue cured flavors. For a tobacco hound such as myself who love the natural tobacco taste in a mix it's one of my staple additives.

 

[JeremyR]

100% vg, vertical coil, oddy clone, on zmax.

I've cut the 5% Arabic about with about 50% nic base in a tank.. The flavor is much better. So this tank is between 2.5% & 3%. Really liking it right now; it has a spicy kind of earthy flavor. Reminiscent of something. Maybe the spices in spiced rum. This Arabic has a stronger th that I like.

5% Ry3 is good but still pretty weak will be going to six and likely 7.

The 5% smooth is a decent cigarette flavor, maybe a slight plum flavor. Will wait another week and likely go to 6.

5% Gold and silver is too much I think unless something major happens in the next few weeks. Way too much of a prune/raisin/fruitcake? Flavor. I've had premixed and it's not like this. I'm thinking this will be a 2.5-3%. I also do red @ 2.5-3%
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I will go back and say after a couple weeks you can tell if its too week or too strong. Longer steeping has some impact on strength but mainly the taste could change a little.

 

[Exchaner]

Does anyone know if the Tobacco Absolute from Wizard Labs is pure, or is it thinned down?

 

[SCOTT-3]

Yes it's time to adjust. Add 2 - 3% of TA and steep another 3 days and try them again.

Remember

If the tobacco absolute is pure as you say (Tar like thickness) mix 2 drops in 10mls of plain PG and use that as your concentrate at 2 - 3%.

If it's the thinner stuff (About the consistancy of PG and a pale brownish yellow in color) then it's already mixed down to a 10% solution so just add 2 - 3%

If its very dark brown and a little thicker then VG it may alread be cut by 50%. So in that case you need to add 4 drops to 10ml PG and then use at 2 - 3%.

hi danny, struggling here, need to pick your mixology skills, have RY1 at 7% 80% vg 5 day steep totally tasteless could the high % of v/g be the problem, or is it the full on flavour of perique, as well as cigar juice that I'm used too, ho just a thought would
2% of pre mixed absolute pure be about right to mix with RY1 mix.

 

[dannyv45]

Does anyone know if the Tobacco Absolute from Wizard Labs is pure, or is it thinned down?

It's not pure it's mixed. They recommend 5%. Start at 2 - 3 and work up.