The Hangsen Thread

[EbenezerScrews]

Well, I had to cancel my plans to mix up some of these flavors with this HV nicotine. It has quite an unpleasant aroma & taste unflavored, to me. Nooow I understand what everyone is talking about, haha. Definitely never experienced anything like this before in a nic base, wow.

I guess I will be sticking to VT, just as "clean" tasting as the nic I'm accustomed to, slightly less throat hit but far less expensive

On a positive note, I tried some of the 7% RY1 I mixed up. It's good! I'm starting to pick up a subtle ashiness* I don't get at 3%, which only seems to add another dimension to the RY1 profile without sacrificing what I liked at 3%. Yum.

*Not sure if "ashiness" is the right descriptor here. It's nothing like other, more ashy, tobaccos I have tried, but it's the first word that popped into my head while vaping it

 

[JeremyR]

Hi mechanism!

Look forward to hearing about the steepers you got. Sounds like we may like the same flavors, I adv the Arabic the most, I have yet to try the Indian or the Virginia. Maybe I should, if you like them also. So many flavors to try though and I only order a few at a time, $$$.

I've heard good things about the d'doff, I think I heard it's along the lines of the Churchill but stronger. I've also heard good things about the Havana.

I notice some of the flavors are good but subtle as well. I guess a light Cigarette isn't very strong so.. They probably fall in line with a light vape.

 

[mechanism]

Hi Jeremy, the Virginia tastes unlike any other Virginia that I've tried, it's very honey-like in a nice way, not a cloying kind of way like some of the brands I've tried.

The Indian is literally my all-day juice and easily my favourite. I use the Arabic mainly in the evening.

I forgot to mention I mix with all-VG liquid which may be one of the reasons why I use a high percentage of concentrate compared with other people.

I do have some Havana, I've forgotten what I thought of it - I should get my mix out and try it again. I'm glad you clarified on the d'doff, as I was convinced it was the same as Churchill, but with yet another different name. Churchill is on my list of Hangsen essences that I intend to try at some point.

 

[dannyv45]

Hi Hangsen people, just dropping in to say thanks for this great thread, I've been coming here reading for over a year now and have been introduced to some concentrates/essences that I've really enjoyed. Decided it was time to write something on here so I went through the new member posting initiation and here I am.

I'm a tobacco girl and my ADVs are Arabic and Indian, with thanks to recommendations from people on here, I would never have tried those two without reading this thread as I can't buy them in the UK but I got motivated to try them so I searched elsewhere and found them. I also like Hangsen Virginia. I recently decided to try a few others and a couple of days ago I mixed some Turbosmog, Cherry Cigar, 7 Wolves, Magic Mix, My Seven and D'Doff. Waiting for those to mellow out with a little trepidation

I believe I like sweet, salty and spicy, not so much the nutty flavours. Some of the Hangsen concentrates I find a bit bland too, I like strong flavours, I mix Indian at 8% and Arabic at 7%.

I'm looking to find something to blend with the less strong ones, like the Hotel, Highway (555), Ancient. I like Cubana, but it seems like that one could benefit from blending with something else too, I'm just not sure what, any suggestions would be great

Welcome,

What I do in the case of the bland tobaccos is I'll add some tobacco absolute OR mix with some of the stronger tobaccos. You'd be suprized at what you can come up with mixing tobaccos together. There are hundreds if not thousands of combinations to try. You can start by mixing a mild tobacco at your normal percent or until you get to a flavor point that is acceptable to you then add very small amounts (start at 1 - 2%) of a stronger tobacco such as the arabic or indian just to give it a note or accent. Try it and see how the flavors change you'd be amazed at what you can come up with. You can add .5% (that's point 5 or half a percent no more no less) of EM which will give a bland tobacco body and depth.

All VG shouldn't be a factor as long as you give it the proper amount of steeping time. Tobaccos take any where from 3 - 5 weeks to mature. Adding 10 - 20% distilled water to an all VG mix will help speed up the steeping process slightly and enhance the vapor, flavor as well as solve any wicking issues that may be happening. There are ways to drastically speed up steeping. You can read my steeping blog here.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...you-wanted-know-about-steeping-then-some.html

You may also want to read my others blogs which will give you some insight into the finer points of mixing.

 

[mechanism]

Thanks for the welcome and advice Danny! Great idea, to blend some of the concentrates that I like the most, with the ones that I find a bit subtle or bland. I take on board what you say about steeping and have experienced this often myself. I rarely try a mix out at all until after a few weeks, but I did with the Indian one and have found that I like that flavour so much I can vape it right after mixing. This was quite a surprise

 

[dannyv45]

Thanks for the welcome and advice Danny! Great idea, to blend some of the concentrates that I like the most, with the ones that I find a bit subtle or bland. I take on board what you say about steeping and have experienced this often myself. I rarely try a mix out at all until after a few weeks, but I did with the Indian one and have found that I like that flavour so much I can vape it right after mixing. This was quite a surprise

You should always try your mix before steeping. This way you have a baseline to compare the progress of the steep. It is also quite alright to vape the mix without steeping if you find it's good right after mixing and you will discover it will only get better with the passage of time.

 

[ukeman]

Just adding my experience with Hangsen Lychee ... (I'm a big Hangsen fruit flavors fan).

Its been hard to find a good Lychee and i was thrilled to see it available this year.

Unfortunately although it is "good" I don't like it as much as FA Lychee, for 2 reasons:

1. Not quite as good tastewise imo (ymmv) as FA,

2. It also costs like $5+ per 10ml and in my experience Hangsens takes a little more % than FA.

 

[monikaedv]

At Hangsenshop.eu it says about their 100% PG: "Gives plenty of vapour and it doesn't dry out your mouth after vaping". Is this PG different than say Inawera's or is it just something they say just to say something?

I mean... PG is usually described as not giving much vapour and as mouth drying...

 

[EbenezerScrews]

At Hangsenshop.eu it says about their 100% PG: "Gives plenty of vapour and it doesn't dry out your mouth after vaping". Is this PG different than say Inawera's or is it just something they say just to say something?

I mean... PG is usually described as not giving much vapour and as mouth drying...

Something they say, haha. USP Grade PG is PG is PG...which isn't 100% either. 99.8-9%, always going to be some type of "contamination" mostly water.

They claim to use DOW brand PG, which is has a minimum purity of 99.8%

EDIT: PG does produce less vapor than VG, but I find it perfectly acceptable. It is also a humectant, so it will dry you out. An open bottle will even pull moisture out of the air

 

[monikaedv]

Something they say, haha. USP Grade PG is PG is PG...which isn't 100% either. 99.8-9%, always going to be some type of "contamination" mostly water.

They claim to use DOW brand PG, which is has a minimum purity of 99.8%

EDIT: PG does produce less vapor than VG, but I find it perfectly acceptable. It is also a humectant, so it will dry you out. An open bottle will even pull moisture out of the air

Aha! So if I'm running low on PG I can just leave the bottle open and it will fill up! ...with water
My bottle says 99,93% PG

I've vaped 100% PG lately and I'm trying to wean myself off making that blowing-out-smoke mouth, since it looks a bit stupid when almost nothing comes out, haha! Especially when I sit face to face with someone and I blow out of the side of my mouth as to not blow nothing in their face!

 

[EbenezerScrews]

Haha, yes! That extra 0.07% is magic

Really? I vaped 100% PG for years in the beginning and it produced vapor. Are you holding the vapor in?

 

[monikaedv]

Yes, God forbid it should be contaminated with 0.1% water!

I hold it in for a second, but if I don't, there's also only a little bit.
hmmm, let's see
*testing* OK, it must be because I inhale quite slowly. I no longer like throat HIT, I like it more like a throat breeze.
Buuut... when I use automatic stick batteries more steam comes out, probably because I have to puff more on them to get that breeze, hehe.
Hmmm, then again, it varies a lot. I'm confused...

 

[EbenezerScrews]

What type of device are you using? How long have you been using it?

Yes, it can be confusing making the switch from smoking to vaping, haha, you'll get used to it

Have you tried using VG liquid? Lower nicotine? Higher % VG & lower nicotine mixes, for me, produce more of a "breeze" than a "hit".

 

[monikaedv]

What type of device are you using? How long have you been using it?

Yes, it can be confusing making the switch from smoking to vaping, haha, you'll get used to it

Have you tried using VG liquid? Lower nicotine? Higher % VG & lower nicotine mixes, for me, produce more of a "breeze" than a "hit".

OK, I seem to have hijacked this thread with non Hangsen topics now, but I'll go back on topic afterwards, I swear

I've been vaping about 1 1/2 year, but didn't stop smoking until 2 1/2 months ago because I had such bad and extremely expensive equipment the 1st year (micro cigs and cartridges).

I use Evod and e-smart and CE5s now. The e-smarts look silly with the Evod, but I really like them, so I'll continue using them. Didn't like Evod or MT3 tanks.

I'm one of the few who are VG intolerant, and since I didn't have PG juices when I started phasing out VG, I tried mixing down Hangsen/Dekang/Inawera juices with 0 mg PG to see if I got better, and because of that I went from 18 mg to 6 in 2 weeks. It was amazing how fast I got used to lower nic and how much taste the juices still had even mixed down to 33,333% of what they 1st were! The RY6 still had quite a lot of taste mixed down with 75% of no flavour PG (although I think even PG is verrry sweet - I seem to differ from most folks in that respect too).

I still suspect that there must be EM in the 0 mg PG I have, because the 12/18 mg PGs are way less sweet. I've ordered Hangsen's PG now and I really hope it will not taste as sweet as the stuff I have, but as you said before: PG is PG is PG...

 

[Dixie1954]

I am just starting DIY and am trying Hangsen concentrates. I found out I am a supertaster - I had to add as much as the original in an already made juice to tolerate the flavor ugh. So I am a total DIY newbie and am having trouble coming up with a correct ratio for me. Amazing that I smoked for 42+ years huh lol.

 

[EbenezerScrews]

I am just starting DIY and am trying Hangsen concentrates. I found out I am a supertaster - I had to add as much as the original in an already made juice to tolerate the flavor ugh. So I am a total DIY newbie and am having trouble coming up with a correct ratio for me. Amazing that I smoked for 42+ years huh lol.

Hello Dixie! 42+ years, that is amazing. Good for you making the switch & good luck!

I am not sure what you mean by "...I had to add as much as the original in an already made juice to tolerate the flavor..."

Do you mean you added equal parts plain PG (or VG) to a premade liquid? A 1:1 ratio, diluting it down by 50%?

The "finding what works for you" is the most difficult part of DIY, haha. Good folks here can hopefully get you to a solid jumping off point.

What types of flavors do you like so far? Tobacco? Fruit? Dessert? Sweet? Dry?

If I am correct in assuming you are finding the premade flavoring too strong, the safest bet is to start at 1% flavoring and SLOWLY work your way up, adding 0.5-1% as you go. It's also best to allow a flavor to sit for a week before deciding to add more flavoring.

Do you have any flavorings you like right now? Something(s) you can vape all day without tiring? Thats important in my opinion, DIY requires patience. As long as you have a flavor you can enjoy while waiting, use it! Don't force yourself to vape a flavor you don't like, it will only work to discourage you.

Ask questions

Eb

 

[VSMiller]

24 hrs USA mix is good to vape. It gets even tastier in time. Highway is very nutty. No. 5 is a stronger tobacco with a hint of nut.

Hey Jimi D is the No. 5 the same as T5 ? Thanks in advance

 

[dannyv45]

Hey Jimi D is the No. 5 the same as T5 ? Thanks in advance

It's close. T5 to me is a bit nutter and slightly sweeter then No.5 but still closer then lets say Hangsen highway. Adding 1% AP to No.5 brings the nuttyness very close to T5 and I find 1 - 2% TFA chocolate which is a very mild chocolate brings it so close it's almost exact. Any of them will make a decent nutty tobacco. T5 is my ADV and I'm happy I still have 30ml's of the stuff. Not sure what I'm going to do when it's gone being that it's discontinued. I've tried them all and I guess I would lean towards the No.5 as a replacement.

 

[VSMiller]

Dang discontinued...... I just found this thread and got several tobacco's and T5 was the one I liked the best, wouldn't you know it oh well guess I will go with the No.5 Thanks

 

[dannyv45]

Dang discontinued...... I just found this thread and got several tobacco's and T5 was the one I liked the best, wouldn't you know it oh well guess I will go with the No.5 Thanks

No.5 is a good choice.