Tootle Puffers, Redux (The Sequel)

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DavidOck has a very good point. You don't even have to wind your own coils because you can get pre-made ones for very cheap. You can get a package of 50 on fast tech for a couple bucks and they are good coils.

But in reality, winding coils isn't really the hard part. It's getting them mounted on tiny build decks with microscopic screws! That's where I have the most trouble. Wrapping coils, wicking them, that part isn't so hard to me. It's just getting the dang coil trapped in the screws! So I can understand the problem if you have dexterity issues.

One great blister pack tank you forgot to mention is the GS Air M. I like it much better than the Nautilus and it costs about half as much, as do the coils. Plus the coils often last a couple of weeks for me. Great flavor!

You're so right Linda, it isn't the coil winding that's hard, it's mounting that tiny coil that's a real pita!

+1 on the GS Airs, nice tank for $10. Also has a TC coil available, economical way to explore TC vaping.
 
Did you take things apart to see how they worked? I got in trouble a few times for doing that. Now I make stuff out of other stuff.
I was more of the "let's see what happens if I put this with that" kind.
 

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It's pretty bad. I have Parkinson's and it's starting to advance. I already can't play songs that I used to just rip out. I've enlisted them help of a fellow luthier already to help me with the finer work of guitar building.

Not a doctor, and haven't even played one on TV, but....

Maybe up the nic?

Google up something like "parkinson's and nicotine", here's a sample

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/746713

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22114853

http://www.tampabay.com/news/health/study-finds-nicotine-safe-helps-in-alzheimers-parkinsons/2175396
 

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Strange that many complain of gurgles and such with the T3's and Evods. No gurgles. Dry hits. Or leaks with my home brew coils. Vape at 8-10 watts.

During my first year of vaping I used mini PTs and Davides with the silica PT/Evod coils; never had one leak, spit, gurgle, or dry hit that wasn't due to operator error.
 
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Same here, Robert, although I have abandoned the Evods, just too small a capacity for me.

Like most toppers, once one learns the peculiarities, the T3S (and similar) are pretty much trouble free. And, if you don't care to rebuild, pretty close to fill and go, with the periodic head replacement.

I just wish Kanger had made an airflow control base for them. Easier than drilling them out :)
 
One great blister pack tank you forgot to mention is the GS Air M. I like it much better than the Nautilus and it costs about half as much, as do the coils. Plus the coils often last a couple of weeks for me. Great flavor!
Have a pair of Nautys (Nauti?). Flavor-wise I like them better than my Aerotanks, but I do get the gurgle since I prefer my vapor on the cool side. Out of curiosity I picked up a GS Air M, which I'm still getting use to. A little, well, air-y, and I'm not one for a tight draw, but not bad. Does anyone else notice the coils wobble a bit in the base? Or is that just me?
 
Same here, Robert, although I have abandoned the Evods, just too small a capacity for me.

Like most toppers, once one learns the peculiarities, the T3S (and similar) are pretty much trouble free. And, if you don't care to rebuild, pretty close to fill and go, with the periodic head replacement.

I just wish Kanger had made an airflow control base for them. Easier than drilling them out :)
The evods and t3s are eGo threaded, right?

Isn't there an airflow control for the pt mini? I believe that's eGo, too. Wouldn't that work?
 

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The evods and t3s are eGo threaded, right?

Isn't there an airflow control for the pt mini? I believe that's eGo, too. Wouldn't that work?

Yes, they are ego threaded, so if your power source is 510 only you need an adapter.

The PT mini base (both stock and air flow) sit the coil too low for use in the T3S... :(
 

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Actually, I still have some T3Ss in rotation, on spinner types. With drilled out air intakes, and the right build, they can yield a decent vape. Good enough for backup and for a change of flavor. And, at 3.5 ml capacity, a nice long tootle setup. Yeah, small and fiddly to rebuild, but I do rebuild them with silica main wicks and cotton flavor wicks, so I can dry burn a few times. (Replacing the flavor wicks, of course!) And have enough coils so I only need to do that every couple months.

Good as a KF? No, of course not. But easier to pop one of those in a shirt pocket than a second 18650 mod and KF! Often what I vape when driving, with it on a lanyard. Need two hands in a hurry, all I have to do is let go of it.

I just can't vape something I can't taste; there just doesn't seem any point to it. I guess I'm really a "flavor chaser," just a tootle puffer because I can't handle a large amount of vapor. I didn't have any problem with the airflow of T3S's, I *like* a really tight draw... which is why I liked cartos/cartotanks for so long, and now love my Achilles RDAs... but there *has to be* flavor, or it's just pointless. That's the main reason I went entirely to rebuildables, those which provide really strong flavor but tight airflow.

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It's just getting the dang coil trapped in the screws! So I can understand the problem if you have dexterity issues.
Even the Authentic Kayfuns have trapping issues with wire.

I take a small triangle file and cut a notch on the deck for the wire to lay in, makes trapping much easier, pull snug around the screw and tighten.
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I have several Nauti minis and really like the vape they provide, but I get tired of having to clear out the excess juice to get rid of that annoying gurgling. I also think that the vacuum seal can be a bit much on them, they can be hard to get open sometimes.
Those were my reasons as well to get rid of the Nauti... Bad coils out of the box was an annoyance too!
 

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Even the Authentic Kayfuns have trapping issues with wire.

I take a small triangle file and cut a notch on the deck for the wire to lay in, makes trapping much easier, pull snug around the screw and tighten.
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Now that is a great idea! I'm going to check my Erls and see if that would work. Those are my favorites, but the ones I have the most problem with.
 

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I have noticed there seems to be a lot of love for the Kayfun, so just curious. For those of you that like this tank, which version do you think is the best? Also if you have a preference on clones, please mention which clone brand you like. Thanks.

Tobeco, Kayfun Lite Plus. I like the Tobecos better than the EHpros for a very good reason: inside the top of the chimney, Tobecos are cone shaped; EHpros are flat; that cone shape is what provides such excellent flavor. EHpros work just as well as Tobecos, but do not offer the same clear and intense flavor.

Andria

ETA: the "Plus" version has adjustable airflow; the non-"Plus" version does not, and has such limited airflow that the wick burns very easily.
 

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Not a doctor, and haven't even played one on TV, but....

Maybe up the nic?

Google up something like "parkinson's and nicotine", here's a sample

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/746713

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22114853

http://www.tampabay.com/news/health/study-finds-nicotine-safe-helps-in-alzheimers-parkinsons/2175396
Not to talk about me too much, but when I quit smoking, I didn't notice any decrease in symptoms. But this is a disease that varies widely from person to person. Yes, I'm familiar with the research, but since I've already quit nicotine (I have always vaped zero nic) I see no reason to put that particular monkey on my back again.

I also have epilepsy. That's what caused the PD. I've been using a different organic for that for quite a few years. It gives me instant relief (as much as can be had, anyway), and may slow the progression. I just this year started having level 2 symptoms over 12 years after I was diagnosed. In 1993, I bought a vaporizer for that purpose, but it really didn't work very well. But around the turn of the century they started getting better, and I've been vaping that substance ever since, and vape it now (guess what--the improvements in vaping allowed me to quit smoking that).
 

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I'm with you. While I can still do a lot of things, I'm slowly losing my dexterity, and coil building would take me forever, and they wouldn't be pretty, either. Plus I already spend too much time on this, what with DIY juice making and all. A lot of people just now looking into starting vaping might just decide that it's all too much trouble. That's one reason my wife isn't interested in vaping. Even if you stick with basic equipment, it's still more convenient to just light up a cigarette.

TGD, I'm very sorry for your illnesses. I'm sure glad you've found something that helps tho!

As far as I can see, there are many in my little corner of the Universe that also feel vaping is just too much trouble. Just filling a tank can cause them to not want to vape. I've seen this over and over and over. I can't even imagine any of those peeps wanting to do any sort of DIY or RB'ing.

Since I still remain captain of the Lazy Vapers, I would like to add another tank to the blister packers list. The Cerotank, which I've only seen on eBay, is abstolutely wonderful. It takes EITHER Kanger or Aspire heads. I like choices. :)

In some ways, it's a cut above the Naughties, and I LIKE the Naughties, a lot. In fact after a couple years with them, I can say I've had VERY few probs, or bad coils.

PLUS ONE HUGELY on the Kabuki tank. No, it's not a budget item, nor was it ever intended to be. It's a quality piece and every bit of using it shows that.

GS Airs are well worth the price of admission. For a low cost tank, and good coils (very similar to the Aspire BVCs), they can't be beat.



Get a Kabuki...

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Next time I have $90 to blow on a tank...but they do look super cool. And take Aspire coils--right?

They have authentics at Fasttech for $22. Thanks for the tip. This is one tank that I must try.

Yes, they take Aspire Nautilus coils.

That tank at FT... how does it differ from a Naughty?
 

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Tobeco, Kayfun Lite Plus. I like the Tobecos better than the EHpros for a very good reason: inside the top of the chimney, Tobecos are cone shaped; EHpros are flat; that cone shape is what provides such excellent flavor. EHpros work just as well as Tobecos, but do not offer the same clear and intense flavor.

Andria

ETA: the "Plus" version has adjustable airflow; the non-"Plus" version does not, and has such limited airflow that the wick burns very easily.

Andria,

Who is your recommended source for the Tobeco, Kayfun Lite Plus please?

Thanks.
 
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Andria,

Who is your recommended source for the Tobeco, Kayfun Lite Plus please?

Thanks.

I just look for the best price; a Tobeco KFL+ is the same, anywhere you get it. I think they're currently in the $10-$15 neighborhood. I paid $32.95 each for my first two, early last year, but only about $15 for the last one I bought, very early this year.

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