Tootle Puffers, Redux (The Sequel)

[LJFinFLA]

Maybe not, but Busardo would, and very often does.

He generally does do a decent run-down of mods... but he kinda lost me with the "kayfun bunny-ears" thing, as that is possibly the worst way to try to wick a kayfun properly.

Andria

Totally enjoy his reviews. I started watching his reviews over 3 years ago and because of that I became the geeky vaper that I am! I admit that the tech stuff appeals to me and I think he does a great job of it. They can be long but it's because he goes a lot further than anyone else I've seen. If I want the short and sweet I watch someone else's review.

 

[AndriaD]

Totally enjoy his reviews. I started watching his reviews over 3 years ago and because of that I became the geeky vaper that I am! I admit that the tech stuff appeals to me and I think he does a great job of it. They can be long but it's because he goes a lot further than anyone else I've seen. If I want the short and sweet I watch someone else's review.

I like his reviews because he seems to vape not terribly different from how I enjoy it, "tootle puffer style". And he does a very thorough analysis of features and drawbacks -- what he considers drawbacks anyway; I've never found "button rattle" to be a big enough problem to exercise myself over. And the stuff with the "scope"... is the "rattlesnake" thing really a huge problem? I heard it occasionally with my Sig Zmax's, but never considered it a problem. It's just a sound, and not very loud. And I have ears like a beagle's. No, not floppy; KEEN!

But that "bunny-ears" thing with Kayfuns..... Just... NO.

Andria

 

[Woofer]

he kinda lost me with the "Kayfun bunny-ears" thing, as that is possibly the worst way to try to wick a kayfun properly.

He lost me with the DNA 40 and his build attempts. Two thumbs and a mouth.
I watch vape videos on youtube at 1.5 or 2x speed.

 

[Oregon Linda]

Would I do that to you!

Okay, you made me feel guilty, so I just watched it. And it was still 5 minutes before he even started talking about the ML class.

 

[Woofer]

is the "rattlesnake" thing really a huge problem?

It is for me, not the sound but the PWM is not a smooth vape.
I like a smooth vape.

 

[AndriaD]

It is for me, not the sound but the PWM is not a smooth vape.
I like a smooth vape.

If I had any idea of the difference between a smooth vape and a not-smooth vape, I might be concerned about the rattlesnake. A vape is a vape. Too hot, too cool, too vapory, not vapory enough, too airy, too tight (though I don't know if I could even recognize "too tight"!)... too sweet or not sweet enough... those are really the only factors I can discern. (ETA: also, too much TH/not enough TH/just right TH)

I love my CF4s, and I hear that Innokin's mods provide a "smooth" vape. And when I was told about using PWM mode to get my iPV mini to step down, I was warned about the "rattlesnake".... but a) I haven't heard it, from my iPV Mini, and b) it seems to vape much the same as it did before I put it into PWM mode, but now the wattage is analogous to all my other mods.

Andria

 

[Woofer]

I love my CF4s, and I hear that Innokin's mods provide a "smooth" vape.

Yes, Innokin is a smooth vape. In fact of all the Chinese makers I have the most faith in Innokin to deliver a good product. I am so happy they styled it up from grenades and gats! :lol

I want demand a smooth DC output not an average. That and not bucking are showstoppers for me.
You like throat hit so perhaps you don't notice PWM, some may even prefer it I dunno.

 

[fourthrok]

Yes, Innokin is a smooth vape. In fact of all the Chinese makers I have the most faith in Innokin to deliver a good product. I am so happy they styled it up from grenades and gats! :lol

I want demand a smooth DC output not an average. That and not bucking are showstoppers for me.
You like throat hit so perhaps you don't notice PWM, some may even prefer it I dunno.

Innokin has spoiled me. I still use my iSticks and the Xpro, but...ah, gee. It's just not the same as my Innokins! Lovely smooth vape, and they do "buck" (as I'm understanding it. I also saw it in a description for the MVP 3...so I think I got it right). I have been looking around at PVs that take external batteries. My wish would be that Innokin would come out with something like that, that wasn't proprietary like the Disrupter. I notice Innokin does try to get folks locked into their stuff...like the new Coolfire 4 comes with a tank "kit". And back in the day with those magnetic connectors for their cartos. I don't really blame them...but I'd rather have a product that was a bit more flexible for the Vapocalypse.

I'm thinking that despite being a bit "old school" and a fat tube (a style I really don't care for, anymore) with an interface that is a bit of a pain, I'm just going to have to wait and get an older model Provari to get that smooth vape I'm wanting with a removable battery mod. I vape low watts (6.5-7 to maybe 10 max) with 1.5ohm coils. Ah, well. Maybe I'll win a lottery and can get one of those ProVape box mods!

 

[Oregon Linda]

Innokin has spoiled me. I still use my iSticks and the Xpro, but...ah, gee. It's just not the same as my Innokins! Lovely smooth vape, and they do "buck" (as I'm understanding it. I also saw it in a description for the MVP 3...so I think I got it right). I have been looking around at PVs that take external batteries. My wish would be that Innokin would come out with something like that, that wasn't proprietary like the Disrupter. I notice Innokin does try to get folks locked into their stuff...like the new Coolfire 4 comes with a tank "kit". And back in the day with those magnetic connectors for their cartos. I don't really blame them...but I'd rather have a product that was a bit more flexible for the Vapocalypse.

I'm thinking that despite being a bit "old school" and a fat tube (a style I really don't care for, anymore) with an interface that is a bit of a pain, I'm just going to have to wait and get an older model Provari to get that smooth vape I'm wanting with a removable battery mod. I vape low watts (6.5-7 to maybe 10 max) with 1.5ohm coils. Ah, well. Maybe I'll win a lottery and can get one of those ProVape box mods!

4th, if you want an Innokin tube mod with external batteries, the SVD 2.0 is a great mod. Same great smooth vape as their other products. And it comes with both an 18350 and 18650 tube. That always irks me when I look at the Pro Vape site - you have to pay another $20 just to get the 18650 tube, and their product is already ridiculously priced. IMO

 

[DavidOck]

4th, if you want an Innokin tube mod with external batteries, the SVD 2.0 is a great mod. Same great smooth vape as their other products. And it comes with both an 18350 and 18650 tube. That always irks me when I look at the Pro Vape site - you have to pay another $20 just to get the 18650 tube, and their product is already ridiculously priced. IMO

Agree, that's why I have two. (Well, they come in silver and black, so.... )

And I really don't like single button interfaces, much easier for me with the separate up/down ones

 

[fourthrok]

4th, if you want an Innokin tube mod with external batteries, the SVD 2.0 is a great mod. Same great smooth vape as their other products. And it comes with both an 18350 and 18650 tube. That always irks me when I look at the Pro Vape site - you have to pay another $20 just to get the 18650 tube, and their product is already ridiculously priced. IMO

Thanks! As I mentioned in my post...I'm not a fan of tube mods these days. But...I may change my tune and try for the Innokin SVD or something like it!

 

[Robert Cromwell]

I like his reviews because he seems to vape not terribly different from how I enjoy it, "tootle puffer style". And he does a very thorough analysis of features and drawbacks -- what he considers drawbacks anyway; I've never found "button rattle" to be a big enough problem to exercise myself over. And the stuff with the "scope"... is the "rattlesnake" thing really a huge problem? I heard it occasionally with my Sig Zmax's, but never considered it a problem. It's just a sound, and not very loud. And I have ears like a beagle's. No, not floppy; KEEN!

But that "bunny-ears" thing with Kayfuns..... Just... NO.

Andria

I use the bunny ear method on my Lemo2 and all my STM's. Works great no dry hits no gurgle or leaky. what more can one ask for out of a wick?

 

[Woofer]

their product is already ridiculously priced. IMO

I don't think their products are overpriced, Radius is 200 bux, compare to DNA mods or SX.
Class of the field vapor, tough, dependable, safe and long lasting.

I'm not a fan of tube mods

Me either, I've been eying the Provari tubes but so far I just can't do it.
I agree the SVD is a great value.

 

[Oregon Linda]

I don't think their products are overpriced, Radius is 200 bux, compare to DNA mods or SX.
Class of the field vapor, tough, dependable, safe and long lasting.



Me either, I've been eying the Provari tubes but so far I just can't do it.
I agree the SVD is a great value.

I was actually talking about their tube mods, not the Radius. I think when you have to pay another $20 for an 18650 tube, that's just nickel and diming you to death. And if you don't get it, you basically have to carry a bunch of 18350s around.

 

[Woofer]

I was actually talking about their tube mods, not the Radius. I think when you have to pay another $20 for an 18650 tube, that's just nickel and diming you to death. And if you don't get it, you basically have to carry a bunch of 18350s around.

Ah, my mistake. FWIW they have a bunch of tubes on sale. ~80 for a 2.5 for example.
Just in case you need 50 or so for the vape stash!

 

[3mg Meniere]

I was actually talking about their tube mods, not the Radius. I think when you have to pay another $20 for an 18650 tube, that's just nickel and diming you to death. And if you don't get it, you basically have to carry a bunch of 18350s around.

One of my frustrations with my new Provari. I will have to wait.

 

[AndriaD]

I use the bunny ear method on my Lemo2 and all my STM's. Works great no dry hits no gurgle or leaky. what more can one ask for out of a wick?

The bunny-ears for a kayfun is just a sloppy method, and provides very mediocre results. It's like playing pool and hoping ANYTHING will fall in a pocket, not caring which. For best results, the wick should be trimmed to the exact length that lets it *just touch* the little ledges, and be "stuck" into place with ejuice while priming -- that way you know the wick is the right length and won't glom up the air channels.

Andria

 

[Robert Cromwell]

4th, if you want an Innokin tube mod with external batteries, the SVD 2.0 is a great mod. Same great smooth vape as their other products. And it comes with both an 18350 and 18650 tube. That always irks me when I look at the Pro Vape site - you have to pay another $20 just to get the 18650 tube, and their product is already ridiculously priced. IMO

No worse priced than a Reo...

 

[pufZeppelin]

4th, if you want an Innokin tube mod with external batteries, the SVD 2.0 is a great mod. Same great smooth vape as their other products. And it comes with both an 18350 and 18650 tube. That always irks me when I look at the Pro Vape site - you have to pay another $20 just to get the 18650 tube, and their product is already ridiculously priced. IMO

I was actually talking about their tube mods, not the Radius. I think when you have to pay another $20 for an 18650 tube, that's just nickel and diming you to death. And if you don't get it, you basically have to carry a bunch of 18350s around.

usually don't comment about prothingys (but thought this a good spot)
ridiculously priced, then when nobody wanted them as the sub-ohm craze hits
all of a sudden they drop price some 60% - what does that tell ya...

charge ya for a battery tube

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[corn flakes]

I have had a couple of SVD2 for about a month and already bought 3 more. The first ones from Fastech for U$18 and the next ones locally for about U$25.

I was seriously looking at a provari over christmas but right now I want volume for my stash, preparing for worst case.