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CyberDj

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Hey guys, thanks for the info! I just spent about two hours trying to create a "perfect" coil. I used Kanthal A1 and soft silver no res wire. I made a "dual coil" and wrapped it around a 3mm wick doubled over. It is reading EXACTLY 1.0 ohm on my Provari V2, and I cannot raise power above 3.4. It is a pretty good vape, but I find that in order to get *big* clouds of vapor, I have had to change the way I draw on it. I usually take pretty fast, analog-like pulls, but for this coil, I find that pulling very slowly for about 5-8 seconds is the only way to get a good blast. I mouth inhale, so this is actually a pretty good vape. LOTS of flavor coming out, very low throat hit (12 mg nic), and a big cloud of vapor. I still don't understand how to make the coil higher resistance. Do I use a longer piece of resistance wire (as in use same coils but don't cut off the excess, wrap it in twists to the no-res wire?) I want to make a 3.0 ohm coil, I'm not sure what this "dual coil" set up is offering me vs. a single coil setup. I just got all my wire so I'm experimenting with coils to try to learn. Thanks for any advice you have! :vapor:

If you want 3ohms or above don't use duals as first attempt. Make a single coil with 6, even 7 wraps around your wick. A good idea can be to get a multimeter (a few bucks I guess) and measure the Kanthal by length. So you can choose what length will give you what you want (don't forget to measure the internal resistance of the multimeter and deduct this from the data you read on the Kanthal).

As for dual coils - the idea is to have almost double the heat on lower resistance set ups. My first such was 0.9 ohms so could not fire on my ProVari (V1) at all. Again, getting a multimeter can help you in this, as well. Generally a good dual should not be lower, than 1.5 ohms.
 

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Hey guys, thanks for the info! I just spent about two hours trying to create a "perfect" coil. I used Kanthal A1 and soft silver no res wire. I made a "dual coil" and wrapped it around a 3mm wick doubled over. It is reading EXACTLY 1.0 ohm on my Provari V2, and I cannot raise power above 3.4. It is a pretty good vape, but I find that in order to get *big* clouds of vapor, I have had to change the way I draw on it. I usually take pretty fast, analog-like pulls, but for this coil, I find that pulling very slowly for about 5-8 seconds is the only way to get a good blast. I mouth inhale, so this is actually a pretty good vape. LOTS of flavor coming out, very low throat hit (12 mg nic), and a big cloud of vapor. I still don't understand how to make the coil higher resistance. Do I use a longer piece of resistance wire (as in use same coils but don't cut off the excess, wrap it in twists to the no-res wire?) I want to make a 3.0 ohm coil, I'm not sure what this "dual coil" set up is offering me vs. a single coil setup. I just got all my wire so I'm experimenting with coils to try to learn. Thanks for any advice you have! :vapor:

Congrats after you do it a few times you will perfect the technique and the coil will be better built. this will allow you to push it even farther. What i wanted tot ouch on is the technique your using to vape. If I may offer a more enhancing experience. To vape as you may know you can smoke it the way one does from analog cigarette. Since I was an avid analog cigarette and cigar smoker the techniques in both are different. Cigars are more for inhaling slowly to indulge in flavors, taste, aroma etc. As for cigarettes its more different sometimes you can smoke it very fast and some times you can choose to smoke it slow.

For vaping my method of choice is to inhale slowly directly to lungs for 5-6 seconds. How strong do I inhale? Very slow just enough to feel the hot hot moist air vape hitting my tongue. If I vape fast I may not get to experience that moisture if I vape to slow not rewarding enough. At 1.0ohm I can bring that to 3.7-3.8volts. As you keep constructing the coils you will get better at them and then you be bale to go to the volts I mentioned. I use 3 wicks in a single coil (.8-1.0ohms)and two wicks in dual coil(.8-1.0ohms). I do roll 3 wicks in dual coil (1.5ohms).
 

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Wow...Just finished vaping on a brand-new single coil, double-wicked, 3.2 ohm'ed Penelope @ 5.8 volts on a V2 ProVari. Waaaaay different vape than the 1.0 ohm dual-coil @ 3.4 volts. Not saying either is "better," because the dual-coil low res had a...(very hard to put into words) more of a juicy/wet/dense? vapor with very complex flavors coming through, while this new 3.2 ohm single-coil produces "blasts" that feel a lot more like an analog. Throat and lung hit is quite nice. Hey, Bishop, I have been trying the method of inhale you spoke of, and when done more patiently like you described, PERFECT THROAT/LUNG feeling! Quite baffling to me. I wrapped about 6-8 coils to get this resistance (very neatly, I have to add!) and I have to say I enjoy the freedom of the options that are provided by
ProVari + Penelope = :headbang:
 

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Wow...Just finished vaping on a brand-new single coil, double-wicked, 3.2 ohm'ed Penelope @ 5.8 volts on a V2 ProVari. Waaaaay different vape than the 1.0 ohm dual-coil @ 3.4 volts. Not saying either is "better," because the dual-coil low res had a...(very hard to put into words) more of a juicy/wet/dense? vapor with very complex flavors coming through, while this new 3.2 ohm single-coil produces "blasts" that feel a lot more like an analog. Throat and lung hit is quite nice. Hey, Bishop, I have been trying the method of inhale you spoke of, and when done more patiently like you described, PERFECT THROAT/LUNG feeling! Quite baffling to me. I wrapped about 6-8 coils to get this resistance (very neatly, I have to add!) and I have to say I enjoy the freedom of the options that are provided by
ProVari + Penelope = :headbang:

5.8 volts sweet!

What type and thickness wire did u use to make that 3.2 ohm coil, and hmm how long?
And u say double wicked, was that with 2x3mm or?

Cause i can only get my hands on 1 and 2mm wicks atm. Wanted to try out 3 wick setup once i recieve me Penelope on my 6volt silver bullet. Just not sure if peeps use 3x3mm with 2 cutoff´s on each side or 3x1mm.
3x1mm with 2 cutoff´s on each side would only make 1mm wick in each channel, and from what i read on forum thats a no go.

Gentlemen plz enlighten me :)
 

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5.8 volts sweet!

What type and thickness wire did u use to make that 3.2 ohm coil, and hmm how long?
And u say double wicked, was that with 2x3mm or?

Cause i can only get my hands on 1 and 2mm wicks atm. Wanted to try out 3 wick setup once i recieve me Penelope on my 6volt silver bullet. Just not sure if peeps use 3x3mm with 2 cutoff´s on each side or 3x1mm.
3x1mm with 2 cutoff´s on each side would only make 1mm wick in each channel, and from what i read on forum thats a no go.

Gentlemen plz enlighten me :)

Use 3mm wicks - this is how to get the most out of it with 3 (one going down, two cut off on top).
I received 1mm wicks with the Pene and still waiting for the 3mms. 1mm is a no go - a lot of hustle with less results...

As per the wire the lower the thickness the higher the resistance. So If you want to have 3-3.5 ohms go with 1.5 or even 1.2. This way you do not have to make a lot of wraps. Also get a multimeter so you can measure what length give how much ohms.
 

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I'm real happy that you enjoy it. Keep in mind anything over 3ohm you can go past 6v within reason. Vaping at 1.0-1.5ohms I generally stay between 3.4v-4.2v anything higher I get errors and the taste not the same. I like to get my general sweet spot once there I leave the volts alone and chain vape slowly away. As you see technique is key and as you improve you will get even more and more enjoyable vapes. Glade to hear its working out for you.

@Nissen

For me I use a 32 Gauge Kanthol RW and 30 Gauge pure silver wire. The wick i used for the 3 wick design was the same wick that came with the Penelope (Silica) from COV.

Just a heads up that I been experimenting with a few different wicks. I’m working with a bigger wick (diameter) so I don't have to wrap 3 wicks in a coil. At the moment one wick stands out that can be used by itself. It’s pretty big, absorbs juice great, produces a ton of vape, and keeps wick very, very, wet and moist no gurgle. I’m still testing it so far it fits real well on Odysseus and Penelope. The only thing is that for 1.0 ohms I'm only able to wrap 3 coils because of the diameter of wick a little big. A 1.5ohms I can wrap 4 and half coils, A 2.0ohms I can wrap 6 coils. My coils are all duals meaning its using two RW twirled up like twizzler easy to do with a pair of pliers or tweezers.

Here some pics

nextelwick.jpg


nextelwick2.jpg


nextelwick3.jpg


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@ .9 ohms
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Odysseus and ProVari V2 getting a groove on.

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So far i have to say this wick is pretty durable and can handle any pure 100 VG thick juice thrown.

The only down side is to prep the wick. I use a butane lighter to burn off any chemicals on the wick. this process takes a couple of minutes to do. I use a tweezers to hold the wick in middle and I torch it till the final orange layer is shown. Its pretty neat when i torch it i see how it changes orange and how it burns up the chemicals on wick.
 

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@Bigern

I'm real happy that you enjoy it. Keep in mind anything over 3ohm you can go past 6v within reason. Vaping at 1.0-1.5ohms I generally stay between 3.4v-4.2v anything higher I get errors and the taste not the same. I like to get my general sweet spot once there I leave the volts alone and chain vape slowly away. As you see technique is key and as you improve you will get even more and more enjoyable vapes. Glade to hear its working out for you.

@Nissen

For me I use a 32 Gauge Kanthol RW and 30 Gauge pure silver wire. The wick i used for the 3 wick design was the same wick that came with the Penelope (Silica) from COV.

Just a heads up that I been experimenting with a few different wicks. I’m working with a bigger wick (diameter) so I don't have to wrap 3 wicks in a coil. At the moment one wick stands out that can be used by itself. It’s pretty big, absorbs juice great, produces a ton of vape, and keeps wick very, very, wet and moist no gurgle. I’m still testing it so far it fits real well on Odysseus and Penelope. The only thing is that for 1.0 ohms I'm only able to wrap 3 coils because of the diameter of wick a little big. A 1.5ohms I can wrap 4 and half coils, A 2.0ohms I can wrap 6 coils. My coils are all duals meaning its using two RW twirled up like twizzler easy to do with a pair of pliers or tweezers.

Here some pics

nextelwick.jpg


nextelwick2.jpg


nextelwick3.jpg


photo-3.jpg


@ .9 ohms
20120731_205623_1.jpg


Odysseus and ProVari V2 getting a groove on.

20120731_205211.jpg


So far i have to say this wick is pretty durable and can handle any pure 100 VG thick juice thrown.

The only down side is to prep the wick. I use a butane lighter to burn off any chemicals on the wick. this process takes a couple of minutes to do. I use a tweezers to hold the wick in middle and I torch it till the final orange layer is shown. Its pretty neat when i torch it i see how it changes orange and how it burns up the chemicals on wick.

Wow, what is that? A shoe lace? :)
4 or even 5mm diameter?
 

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Use 3mm wicks - this is how to get the most out of it with 3 (one going down, two cut off on top).
I received 1mm wicks with the Pene and still waiting for the 3mms. 1mm is a no go - a lot of hustle with less results...

As per the wire the lower the thickness the higher the resistance. So If you want to have 3-3.5 ohms go with 1.5 or even 1.2. This way you do not have to make a lot of wraps. Also get a multimeter so you can measure what length give how much ohms.

Ty Cyber

Just have to order some 2mm wick, my Penelope order are confirmed now, and will prob be hanging in my mouth very soon :)

That 3mm wick have been out of stock for quite some time now, same with O rings... So just have to be patient it seems.

Gonna go for the 0.132mm NickleC and some NR 0.2 silver, and hope that i can make ohm´s high enough for 6.4 volt

Cheers
 

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Haha Bishop

Ty for ur answers, wont Quote all those nice pictures, so hope u see my greetings.

Maybe have to ask my old father about special wicks, when he come from holiday.

He sell seals for a living, so i guess he must have an idea about the baddest wick ever made lol.

Ur mega wick made me think haha.

Thanks bud this wick is awesome so far it can handle 100 Vg and very very hot wet moist vape. Just like if i was using 3 silica wicks.
 

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Ty Cyber

Just have to order some 2mm wick, my Penelope order are confirmed now, and will prob be hanging in my mouth very soon :)

That 3mm wick have been out of stock for quite some time now, same with O rings... So just have to be patient it seems.

Gonna go for the 0.132mm NickleC and some NR 0.2 silver, and hope that i can make ohm´s high enough for 6.4 volt

Cheers

if you want 3mm, try this:
Silica Rope 3 mm - Silica Wick - high quality - temperature resistance > 1000°C | eBay
 

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Just rebuilt my original single strand wick/coil with a 3 wick coil and boy, what a difference!

Thanks very much to everyone who posted. My 2nd Penelope which I should receive Monday or so will come out of the gate vaping!

Thats great news.
 

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Wow, just wow, I received my Penelope yesterday and built it this evening. Sooo nice! I had been fooling around with as mesh and the Vivi tank. Penelope is easy to setup and Vapes superb, non of the burnt rubber taste while I chain vape, I love it on day one. I am looking for kir fanis's profile next for a clear tank and any other goodies. Thank you COV for stocking this and the ready coil wire :)
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I'm pretty new to vaping & was given a Penelope by a friend who's been vaping for a few years.
All I got to say is WOW what a difference to taste and vapour production :) :) :)
Thank you for this setup advice bishopheals, I'm definitely enjoying & appreciateing the Penelope a lot more now than I previously did.....


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