Who here is not stocking up in preparation for the May 12th, 2020 Deadline?

[Oregon Linda]

IMO regulated mods aren't suitable for someone that just wants to DIY juice and coils, as regulated mods still also require more than just a little bit of dedication to use them safely, just not as much dedication as a mech, but then again... most people who use a regulated mod aren't using it safely, which has sufficiently scared me off from people who use a regulated mod and who try to insinuate that regulated mods are suitable for those who just want to DIY juice and coils, not want to care about battery safety.

Great point! Absolutely EVERYONE who vapes, no matter what kind of mod they're using - even if it's just an Ego - needs to care about battery safety and know exactly what they're doing when they put an atty on their mod. You can get hurt just as badly on a regulated mod as a mech.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

IMO regulated mods aren't suitable for someone that just wants to DIY juice and coils, as regulated mods still also require more than just a little bit of dedication to use them safely, just not as much dedication as a mech, but then again... most people who use a regulated mod aren't using it safely, which has sufficiently scared me off from people who use a regulated mod and who try to insinuate that regulated mods are suitable for those who just want to DIY juice and coils, not want to care about battery safety.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

If not mech, and not regulated, what's left?

Cigarettes

 

[dripster]

If not mech, and not regulated, what's left?

How about BOTH regulated AND proper dedication towards using it safely?

 

[Brewdawg1181]

IMO regulated mods aren't suitable for someone that just wants to DIY juice and coils, as regulated mods still also require more than just a little bit of dedication to use them safely, just not as much dedication as a mech, but then again... most people who use a regulated mod aren't using it safely, which has sufficiently scared me off from people who use a regulated mod and who try to insinuate that regulated mods are suitable for those who just want to DIY juice and coils, not want to care about battery safety.

Okay, sure. But I didn't say or imply anything along the lines of regulated being completely safe, idiot proof, etc. And the knowledge & safety precautions required between most regulated mods and mechs are light years apart. My point was that they want to set up for past May, rta's will help with that, and he/she obviously wasn't ready for mechs so not to worry about those. Steph's been a member since 2010, vaping something, after all.

You can choose to spend your time splitting hairs and pick apart what I said, or try to help him/her too (a big part of why this forum exists). How about telling him info he can actually use? Use your knowledge to help him avoid the specific dangers of regulated. Maybe I'll learn about any dangerous habits I might have as well.

 

[Don29palms]

I have recommended many time that anyone that wants to continue vaping after May 2020 to have at least 1 good mech mod and at least 1 good RDA and know how to use them. I also recommend know how to DIY ejuice and stock up on 100mg/ml nicotine. Regulated mods will eventually die and RTA can have broken glass. Who knows what the future will bring but if you're prepared it doesn't matter.

 

[Brewdawg1181]

I have recommended many time that anyone that wants to continue vaping after May 2020 to have at least 1 good mech mod and at least 1 good RDA and know how to use them. I also recommend know how to DIY ejuice and stock up on 100mg/ml nicotine. Regulated mods will eventually die and RTA can have broken glass. Who knows what the future will bring but if you're prepared it doesn't matter.

You know, I never had interest in using a mech, until events of the last 6 months or so. But I've been considering throwing one in the stash for worst case, for the reason you mention. I'll hopefully have enough regulated, but I guess they could all crap out. Who knows? I know virtually nothing about what makes reliable mechs, but am plenty capable of math & using steam engine if necessary.

Any recommendations for a simple, reliable, very basic low cost mod? Of course, if I got to the point of using it, aesthetics wouldn't matter at all....just that it works. And since I'd hopefully never use it, I'd prefer not to spend much.

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

You know, I never had interest in using a mech, until events of the last 6 months or so. But I've been considering throwing one in the stash for worst case, for the reason you mention. I'll hopefully have enough regulated, but I guess they could all crap out. Who knows? I know virtually nothing about mechs, but am plenty capable of math & using steam engine if necessary.

Any recommendations for a simple, reliable, very basic low cost mod? Of course, if I got to the point of using it, aesthetics wouldn't matter at all....just that it works. And since I'd hopefully never use it, I'd prefer not to spend much.

Pick up a used REO in the classies. Nobody ever went wrong with one. You would need a BF atty, but those can be had on the cheap, too.

 

[englishmick]

You know, I never had interest in using a mech, until events of the last 6 months or so. But I've been considering throwing one in the stash for worst case, for the reason you mention. I'll hopefully have enough regulated, but I guess they could all crap out. Who knows? I know virtually nothing about mechs, but am plenty capable of math & using steam engine if necessary.

Any recommendations for a simple, reliable, very basic low cost mod? Of course, if I got to the point of using it, aesthetics wouldn't matter at all....just that it works. And since I'd hopefully never use it, I'd prefer not to spend much.

I got some Silver Bullets many years ago and I've been using one ever since, I got them because I really don't like bottom buttons and they were the only side button mechs I could find.

Lately there have been some protected mechs around. I got an Armor Prime. Side button. It has some simple circuitry in it. An overload cutoff, and three color lights to tell you where the battery level is at. It's electronics I guess, but nothing like the level of a modern regulated mod with TC and a screen and all that. It falls between regulated mods and mechs in terms of complexity, I'm hoping it falls into the same spot in terms of longevity.

 

[sofarsogood]

I decided I won't be using mech mods no matter what happens. All the injuries associated with vaping trace back to carrying batteries in clothing with unprotected terminals or using a mech mod. I did pick up a couple of protected tube mods. The protection boards cost $5 so I got some extras of those, cheap way to have a backups for the backups. Another way to go is have some protected mods that only work in bypass so no screen is needed. It looks like OLED screens may be the most failure prone part on current mods.

 

[Don29palms]

You know, I never had interest in using a mech, until events of the last 6 months or so. But I've been considering throwing one in the stash for worst case, for the reason you mention. I'll hopefully have enough regulated, but I guess they could all crap out. Who knows? I know virtually nothing about what makes reliable mechs, but am plenty capable of math & using steam engine if necessary.

Any recommendations for a simple, reliable, very basic low cost mod? Of course, if I got to the point of using it, aesthetics wouldn't matter at all....just that it works. And since I'd hopefully never use it, I'd prefer not to spend much.

$14.19 AV Able XL Styled 18650 Mechanical Mod - brass / 1*18650 at FastTech - Free Shipping
I would get something like this. You can lock the fire button so you can put it in your pocket. With deliveries from China being sketchy right now it's rough. I have one similar to this one and it's a decent little mod. It's important to know and follow the rules of a mech mod but it's not that tough.

 

[Brewdawg1181]

$14.19 AV Able XL Styled 18650 Mechanical Mod - brass / 1*18650 at FastTech - Free Shipping
I would get something like this. You can lock the fire button so you can put it in your pocket. With deliveries from China being sketchy right now it's rough. I have one similar to this one and it's a decent little mod. It's important to know and follow the rules of a mech mod but it's not that tough.

Yeah, that looks more along the lines of what I was thinking of spending! And from a vendor I'll likely be getting more stuff from anyway. I do still like the idea of a side button though- but I assume it creates another minor complication and fail point.

Just to make sure though- you're not just mad and trying to maim me for the little argument we had about the popularity of mechs a few months back, right?

 

[Don29palms]

Yeah, that looks more along the lines of what I was thinking of spending! And from a vendor I'll likely be getting more stuff from anyway. I do still like the idea of a side button though- but I assume it creates another minor complication and fail point.

Just to make sure though- you're not just mad and trying to maim me for the little argument we had about the popularity of mechs a few months back, right?

LMAO! Not at all. If I really don't like someone I tell them Smok stuff is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

 

[440BB]

LMAO! Not at all. If I really don't like someone I tell them Smok stuff is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Better stock up - you never know!

 

[Rossum]

Lately there have been some protected mechs around. I got an Armor Prime. Side button. It has some simple circuitry in it. An overload cutoff, and three color lights to tell you where the battery level is at. It's electronics I guess, but nothing like the level of a modern regulated mod with TC and a screen and all that. It falls between regulated mods and mechs in terms of complexity, I'm hoping it falls into the same spot in terms of longevity.

What you are describing may look like a mech, and it may vape like a mech, but it is not a mech!

 

[markfm]

The Ehpro Armor Pro is a protected unregulated mod. It has protections for reverse battery, short circuit/very low ohms, stuck button/accidental fire (> 10 sec), and 5 clicks on/off. It does basic voltage monitoring (LEDs surrounding the fire button change from green to yellow to red as the voltage drops). The v2 is slightly wider than the v1 - v2 can accept 21700 batteries, while the v1 can only go up to 20700. I love the side fire button - all of my true mech tubes have bottom fire, whether spring or magnet based, which I don't like as much.

I like the AP a lot, have 3 of them (the brass finish version is really nice, though I also like the black ones). The lack of a screen and very simple electronics functionality should mean they're fairly high reliability (low electronics part count). The color change based on voltage is actually nice (IIRC the change to solid yellow occurs when it transitions to 3.6v, a "reasonable" point to change the battery).

Mech? No. Nicely machined, with some reasonable, fairly invisible, protection? Yes.

 

[Rossum]

Mech? No. Nicely machined, with some reasonable, fairly invisible, protection? Yes.

Right, but the point of owning mechanical mods, especially in the context of this thread, is that they don't have electronics in 'em that are likely to fail.

 

[dripster]

Okay, sure. But I didn't say or imply anything along the lines of regulated being completely safe, idiot proof, etc. And the knowledge & safety precautions required between most regulated mods and mechs are light years apart. My point was that they want to set up for past May, rta's will help with that, and he/she obviously wasn't ready for mechs so not to worry about those. Steph's been a member since 2010, vaping something, after all.

You can choose to spend your time splitting hairs and pick apart what I said, or try to help him/her too (a big part of why this forum exists). How about telling him info he can actually use? Use your knowledge to help him avoid the specific dangers of regulated. Maybe I'll learn about any dangerous habits I might have as well.

You said "just DIY juice & coils", not "just DIY juice & coils & be dedicated to simple rules of battery safety" so your argument fails. Only a few hours ago, I watched Mooch answer this question on his personal YouTube channel streaming live, near the end of "Power Hour #4", that went along the lines of "Mechs are dangerous so why not discourage using mechs?" His reply was, it's because mechs are NOT dangerous, after which he went into a few specifics about a damaged battery wrap or damaged top insulator ring causing the serious risk of short circuiting the battery and the battery could explode if putting it on a charger or in a regulated mod, etc. etc. so no, I'll repeat, a regulated mod isn't suitable for someone that wants to just DIY juice and coils, but instead, it can be suitable for someone that also wants to be dedicated to using it safely. And that is still regardless of who is ready for mechs or who isn't.

Finally, you don't have to be ready for mechs to still be able to buy them without immediately start using them. Case in point, past May you'll still have plenty of time to learn how to use them safely, just like you'll still have plenty of time after that, to only THEN decide on whether to maybe start using them. The bottom line is, with proper care mechs usually don't break easily. For this reason alone, you might later regret not having any... that is, after your last regulated mod eventually will have died on you.

 

[Skunk!]

Mechanical mods make up a majority of my gear. I got my first in about 2013 and have used them ever since. My main daily use mods are mechanical squonkers. I have tube mechs I use at home. As long as you pay attention to what is going on with your device and your build, they are as safe as any mod. There is a steep learning curve and you should get as much knowledge as possible before using. Double check everything before firing.

 

[Blitzdonlife]

You know, I never had interest in using a mech, until events of the last 6 months or so. But I've been considering throwing one in the stash for worst case, for the reason you mention. I'll hopefully have enough regulated, but I guess they could all crap out. Who knows? I know virtually nothing about what makes reliable mechs, but am plenty capable of math & using steam engine if necessary.

Any recommendations for a simple, reliable, very basic low cost mod? Of course, if I got to the point of using it, aesthetics wouldn't matter at all....just that it works. And since I'd hopefully never use it, I'd prefer not to spend much.

I went with box mod mechanical squonkers for the mech stash for the most part. The switches/contacts are easy to clean and service, and they squonk (which is important to me, lately all I use are squonkers, recent convert). Some of the mods I aquired to meet these requirements: Stentorian Ram, Coilart Azeroth, Armageddon squonk mod v2. Nice thing about boxes is that they can be used for bf RDA's, or RTA's. Dual functionality is a big plus.