Wizard Labs Nic Base Reviews

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hawkizefan

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Ok just made my first order with WL.
Looking forward to trying it out. Especially the nic.

Did you place that order today? I've been trying to make an order but when I go to checkout I can't do anything...zip..nada.
Tried to order via my "smart" phone, then thinking that might be the problem, grabbed a laptop and got the same thing.
 

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I'm wondering why there is some color to it when some nic is clear. I'm planning to try them for nic when I need to replenish, so want to be sure about their nic.

I use WL liquid daily. It is the color of light apple juice. The color by no means throws me or.the flavors of my liquid off. If your on the fence about buying WL, get off the fence and break out the CC. WL will now be my go to nic supplier. :)

Bams needs a ZEN BAM!!
 

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I'm wondering why there is some color to it when some nic is clear. I'm planning to try them for nic when I need to replenish, so want to be sure about their nic.

I did a comparison - posted somewhere in the later half of this thread - and now, after using WL for a while, I find myself tasting the nic even more than I indicated in my review... I like that it is organic though. Can anybody tell me why exactly WL has the color and taste that some other nic doesn't have? Is it due to the extraction process?
 

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Post 214 is especially informative, do we know if other nic vendors are actually adding preservative type chemicals to nic to keep it from yellowing? And, where is WL nic manufactured?

Yeah, this part:

The 99.8% extract that we use does tan a little quicker in reaction to PG and VG than some others on the market since we don't use any additives to keep them clear.

I was wondering about this too, and have asked about it in other threads (different vendor) with no response. I asked because, frankly, nicotine will turn yellow due to oxidation - period. The only thing I've heard (other than the above) is that "some yellow faster due to impurities". I thought there was no way to avoid oxidation and the yellowing that results from that process that with exposure to light and air. I've even seen pharmaceutical documentation mentioning that NRTs will turn yellow/brown with some time.

To date, the only thing I thought could reasonably be surmised based on the color of a nic juice is it's age and handling (i.e. too much exposure to air [hence why Wizard labs replaces the air at the top of a bottle with an inert gas]).

I would love to know what oxidation inhibitors - aside from removing oxidation sources (air) - might be in use.

I'm not sure the exact source of nic, but I would suspect it comes from the same place just about all of it comes from (that being China). From the WizardLabs site:
Our organic nicotine extraction is performed through partnership with one of the providing labs to Johnson & Johnson's global line of nicotine based products for your assurance of chemical purity, quality control, and reliable results
 

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wolcen,
the extraction, purifying, cleaning process determines how the refined nicotine looks before oxidation. Although chemicals can be added after the fact (saw a statement once about balance between nic clarity and health risk when adding chemicals) it seems possibly that solvents used in the extraction process could be tailored to produce an ascetically pleasing clear product.
I think the primary differences are the chemicals used in the extraction process, and how they are removed.
 
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Yes DD. That is exactly why it has that as well as a different odor to some.

I believe he is in beta testing for another extraction method to.eliminate those tastes & smell for certain peeps.

Bams needs a ZEN BAM!!

That's sounds awesome. I for one am getting a hint of peppery-ness from the WL nic. I can't say for sure that it is having a noticeable effect on my juices at this point as I have only mixed using WL nic. I do have a sample of another vendors nic though, so, I will have a better idea about that soon.

I do like that there are organic aspects to WL's product and of course the prices are awesome. I'm sure I'd be an idiot for asking for an eta on the new extraction method and/or if it would effect pricing.?
 

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...I do like that there are organic aspects to WL's product...

May I ask: what does that mean to you? Isn't all the nicotine we're using extracted from tobacco, and hence an "organic" product? It doesn't say "certified organic" (as in food).

I like WL nic juice and support them, but without clarification, I would have to guess that's a "marketing term". My sincerest apologies if that is incorrect, but I'd rather question it than have you assume it's something it may not be.

Can't argue on the prices though ;), and John is a great guy to work with IMHO

ETA: Just doing some ad-hoc googling, it seems the "organic" moniker may also indicate something about the extraction method. I have no idea; just throwing it out there.
 
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For the example we are dealing with, WL's nic, I believe(I am pretty sure that is what i read somewhere, from a reliable source can't remember where) the organic they are referring to is the extraction process. All that mean to me is it is cleaner/safer than if non-organic methods were used. Sorry to be simple about it, but I really do not have any idea what goes into extraction nicotine. For all I know organic methods are the standard methods for extracting nic. lol.. Just to add a little, I would have to guess the tobacco is not grow organically or that would be clear to all of us.
 

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Yeah, I hope it's not just a marketing term... If WL is actually doing the extraction in a "better," "healthier" way, then that could justify the smell/taste/color... I would like more info on how the extraction process is different from others. Because at this point, unless I hear anything bad about RTS, (besides that the owner has verbal ...........) I'm going back to them when I run out... I'm just tasting the nic too much in some lightly flavored mixes...
 

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Ok it has been a few days coming but my review Small opinion at this time on wizards nic is excellent. I have been buying rts nic but the price on this nic is just too good to pass up. It seems to have a bit more Of a scent This is probably due to extraction method, but take that with. Grain of salt as I am no chemist,(although I play one on tv) and as far as clarity it is on par with rts.

And John was nice enough to send me a sample of some new nic he is working with. And It is excellent. Matter of fact it is crystal clear. It is so clear it looks like water. It seemed to have a bit more th and mouth feel to it.
More to come as I experiment more with it and some different flavors.

And on the packaging. It is the best I have ever seen.

And I dont know If you are going to carry flavour art John,but it would be really nice if u did. I know u probably would have to go higher on price compared to tpa, but maybe you could look into it, especially the tob flavorings.

If you order from wizard labs you can't go wrong. The nic is great and the cs is superb.
 
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