Are you done stocking up?

[kross8]

I agree with the titanium coils as I get the best flavor with these and they seem to last forever. But, when working with this wire it is important to note that it cannot be dry burned. So cleaning is a bit different than with other coils that you can dry burn to loosen and remove and gunked up liquid. I use a soft nylon brush under hot water and it works well, but take care you don't scrub too hard.
As usual YMMV.

But, when working with this wire it is important to note that it cannot be dry burned.


i did not know this detail,,glad you mentioned that,, nothing worse than getting a good product and not using/maintaining it correctly,--note to self,, no dry burning titanium!

 

[LoveVanilla]

What kind of boards have you tried with SS coils?

I have very good luck with TC with SS coils with some boards. Of course, DNA boards doesn't have a problem with SS coils and most of the mods I use have DNA boards in them. Another board that isn't quite as good, but those Vandy Vape chips are quite impressive with TC SS too so far.

Yes, no doubt depends on mod/chip quality. My Pico's were okay to poor with ss. Smoant charon was mediocre to poor. Haven't tried on ehpro 101's (which are replacing picos). However, all run TC well on titanium. Don't like those surprise hot hits so... titanium FTW. Enjoy!

 

[Philabos]

Question for the stock up experts.
I have decided to use my two internal battery mods on a day to day basis and retire the external battery powered to reserve status. Theoretically not using them will mean they will last longer when needed.
But it's only a theory, right or wrong?

 

[jandrew]

But it's only a theory, right or wrong?

Right or wrong, just remember:

In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

 

[englishmick]

Question for the stock up experts.
I have decided to use my two internal battery mods on a day to day basis and retire the external battery powered to reserve status. Theoretically not using them will mean they will last longer when needed.
But it's only a theory, right or wrong?

Well, the internal batteries are going to lose potency if you don't use them, so you might as well use them while they are still good. On the other hand whatever external batteries you have in stock are going to lose it stored away. The external battery mods themselves will probably be unaffected by time sitting on the shelf.

I use my last remaining internal battery mod every day on the grounds that I might as well make the most of whatever life it has left. But I use several external battery mods as well so I keep my batteries in use.

Truth is though, batteries don't cost much and they decay slowly anyway, so it's all worrying about not much.

 

[Rossum]

Well, the internal batteries are going to lose potency if you don't use them, so you might as well use them while they are still good. On the other hand whatever external batteries you have in stock are going to lose it stored away. The external battery mods themselves will probably be unaffected by time sitting on the shelf.

Sure, but replacement batteries are cheaper, and in the face of regulation, more likely to be available than mods.

 

[Mowgli]

If I understand correctly loose batteries will store longer if they're stored at 3.7v

 

[englishmick]

If I understand correctly loose batteries will store longer if they're stored at 3.7v

I keep my batteries on a stand with battery sized holes. Take them from the front and put freshly charged ones at the back so they get used in order. That means they spend most of their life sitting on the stand at full charge, which isn't good for them I guess. I retire them after a couple of years and spend very little on batteries so I don't worry about it. Maybe I could reduce my battery costs from $40 a year to $35 a year if I fussed around. I have enough that I can charge them slowly and take them out of the mod when they get down to around 3.5, which someone said was a good thing.

 

[rosesense]

Well, if you would move a little closer to me I could help you with that...

Hey, I have been away for awhile and glad to see some of you are still here. I moved to Fl for 8 months, now in South GA so I moved closer to you, semiretired lol.

 

[440BB]

Hey, I have been away for awhile and glad to see some of you are still here. I moved to Fl for 8 months, now in South GA so I moved closer to you, semiretired lol.

Welcome back!

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Hey, I have been away for awhile and glad to see some of you are still here. I moved to Fl for 8 months, now in South GA so I moved closer to you, semiretired lol.

I was just wondering the other day about where you have gotten to.....and here you are.....Welcome back.

 

[gerrymi]

Sure, but replacement batteries are cheaper, and in the face of regulation, more likely to be available than mods.

With that T fellow in office...the FDA may not even be around a year from now...

..

 

[englishmick]

With that T fellow in office...the FDA may not even be around a year from now...

..

The difference with T is that he is more likely to install an industry lobbyist as head of the Agency. Normal P's would install a political hack as head and have the industry lobbyists bribe them. There's a certain straightforwardness to that but, personally, don't expect much to change on our end of the screwing.

 

[flavourchaser]

I seem to have a problem with mods, I can't get enough of them. So far I've got a Pulse 90watt squonker, GTRS Vboy 200W mod on the way. I just received today a Wismec Luxotic MF. I'm tempted to get a Submonkey mkey #60 squonker. But I think that's it, after those I should be done on stocking up???

 

[NicotineRush]

Done stocking up but not necessarily done buying new shiny stuff!

 

[jolly_st_nic]

Done stocking up but not necessarily done buying new shiny stuff!

I'm buying mechs, mostly cheap ones (I've got a cheap Beyond Vapes Beacon coming in the mail Saturday). Each time I buy one I'll get a couple of those cheap Smoketek kicks to go with them, and there it is - no more worries about finding mods in the future, even if they get banned, and the kick will make it safer to use. You can get kicks for just a few bucks, mods for just a few more bucks, so for like $20 + shipping I'll have a durable, regulated mech mod every month.

Now for a rant .... I see vaping is actually a great way to quit (I've been completely off cigarettes for 2 weeks now), I'm a little concerned about how any ban might step on my toes and plans to stay off the cigarettes. The vape industry is getting a really bad rap, partly because of corrupt corporate and equally-corrupt state and federal government interests, but I think there are some legitimate concerns about this stuff too. For instance, some of the vape shops I've been to sell juice with colorful labels that have cartoon characters on them. I love flavors, so I hate vendors that do that stuff and shops that sell that stuff: it lends a bit of legitimacy to the anti-vape ads about the vape industry targeting minors. That may contribute, even if in a small way, to an outright ban on all flavored liquids, and some of these vape vendors are perhaps going to get shot with their own gun. I'm older and wiser, which is why I quit smoking. I was young and stupid once, and I started smoking because it was cool - back when Camel had their big Joe Camel in sunglasses and leather jacket cartoon on posters everywhere. I don't think it's helpful to the future of vaping to emulate the now-illegal marketing techniques of RJ Reynolds. We need flavors, but do we really need Pancake Man and such nonsense? If we're really a vaping community motivated to quit smoking and help other adults not to smoke, that is in some ways going to conflict with the business side of vaping. It might make perfect, if short-sighted, sense to a vendor's portfolio to market to the young, but I find it irresponsible at best and diabolical at worst from the point of view of genuine vaping advocacy. I watched a youtube video of some stupid teenagers hotboxing a car with 50 mg nic salts in pod systems, and I thought, I was like those kids once. I was suckered into 25 years of addiction long before I knew what it was going too cost me financially and, more importantly, in terms of my health. One of them said, "It's Breeze season, baby!" and said he was getting a killer nicotine fix. Yeah, it's Breeze season for teenagers, so vendors and shop owners need to be careful of kids that think it's Breeze season, no? Any reasonable person could simply look up youtube videos on vaping to see that the argument that the vape industry targets teens is well-founded. I've followed vape reviewers over the years who used to have perfectly calm, interesting discussion of vaping and snus for the purpose of quitting cigarettes. Now some of those very same people have full-body tattoos, a million piercings in their lips, earrings the size of golf balls. In addition, they talk by waving their hands and eyes around wildly like they just drank 3 pots of coffee. Some of these same reviewers warn of a ban, but do they understand that they are, in some ways, part of the problem? They can advocate forever, but as long as they keep appealing to teenagers, it's going to be an uphill battle.

Vaping has the potential to help so very many people, and its future is certain. It would be a shame if the future of vaping in saving lives was delayed or impeded by corruption within the vape industry itself. Our biggest enemy isn't the FDA - it's money and an ethics that puts money above all other concerns about our fellow humans, be they ex-smokers who now vape or some idiot kid who wants to start vaping because it's "Breeze season". There is a name for the economic system that is guided by that ethics, Capitalism, but that's for a different post on a different forum. Vape advocacy ought to involve some degree of self-reflection. Part of why vaping is so great is that the community, from the get-go, was innovating and reflecting on how to make vaping better. We ought to try to apply the same process to our vape advocacy. We can talk about corrupt Big Tobacco, Big Pharma, the FDA, the corruption in state goverments after the settlement in the 90s. But if we aren't capable of reflecting on our own industry, the possibility for its own corruption, then that's a problem too.

“He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster .... ”

― Friedrich Nietzsche

"Revolution begins at home, preferably in the bathroom mirror."

― Husker Du, Warehouse: Songs and Stories liner notes

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

You reflect the 'cater to children' problem pretty accurately and the opinion of the majority of vapers world wide. Yeah, you fit in here just fine. But this part of the problem only represents part of the uphill battle we vapers face and fight. You always hear about the argument and key phrase used "nicotine" blah, blah, but even the FDA never seems to address the real addiction of smoking and why so many of us were slaves to smoking for so many years. Nicotine in and of itself, is no more addictive than its cousin caffeine. The real addictions come from any or all of the over 7000+ chemicals that BT puts into the tobacco leaf and papers and once that leaf is burning(in a cigarette) some of those chemicals are transposed into new chemicals. Many are medicating themselves and aren't even aware of it. And you say the FDA isn't part of the real problems when they allow BT to put these into cigarettes? The best thing we as vapers can do to fight is to educate those who are in the dark about what is really happening when we smoke. The other parts of the addiction of smoking include behavioral(hand to mouth action) visual,(seeing smoke or vapor), social activities, as well as the emotional dependence and physical dependence, etc,etc. The genius of ecigs is that vaping addresses each of those properties and is why it works when all other methods and aids fail. No one argues that vaping is 100% safe. But it sure is safer than smoking and burning tobacco leaves and all the things added to them. Then you have the health industry which reaps billions of dollars in health care, and the taxes that are collected to pay the into the states coffers, and it just goes on and on as to why so many are against vaping. We are hurting their money stream and they do not like it.......they have absolutely no concern that its blood money or that people die so they can continue collecting on their cash cow.

I know I have condensed the many problems in a short paragraph, but you get the general ideal of what this industry faces.

Education is our best weapon........

 

[jolly_st_nic]

The FDA certainly is part of the problem, and probably a bigger part of the problem than the vaping industry. I suppose what I'm saying is that the "money stream" you talk about, well, the vape industry has a money stream too, and their interest in preserving it is sometimes going to put them at odds with public health advocates if they market to children. Caffeine and nicotine might be comparable mild stimulants, but addiction to nicotine is certainly not necessary or preferable, nicotine actually is addictive by itself in some people, just as caffeine is, and there is, like it or not, a strong social prohibition against children using nicotine. Will a small amount of insert-whatever-drug-here harm a child? Maybe not, but these social prohibitions still exist. It's just a fact.

We can't talk out of both sides of our mouths and expect to win this. The FDA accuses the vape industry of marketing to children. Well, how can we defend against that if the vape industry is indeed marketing to children? We'll just have to accept an outright ban in that case, perhaps. Yes, education is important, but we will never convince the general populace that, because nicotine is such a mild stimulant, it is ok to market it with cartoon mascots that appeal to children.

I think things are going to get worse for ex smokers in America and elsewhere before they get better. Corporations, including vape manufacturers, might be efficient at making money, but some are horribly inefficient in any other regard - including in helping the public health with sensible products targeted to adults who want to quit smoking. I honestly don't see how Pancake Man is helpful to us vapers any more than Joe Camel was helpful to me. Just my two cents.

 

[rosesense]

Thanks for the welcome back. OT, I didn't buy anything new while away from the forum but in the past few days, I got shinyitis again and bought about 12 new mods/tanks. I don't need any of them but they were pretty. I have to stop now, sigh. I rationalized it because I accidentally dropped one mod in the pool and another off the lawn mower. Gave two to my son and wouldn't you know the one I dropped off mower is now working. I really must stop because I am not a sub ohm kind of gal and nothing beats the good old Provari for me.All of the new ones are high wattage devices, what was I thinking?

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

The FDA certainly is part of the problem, and probably a bigger part of the problem than the vaping industry. I suppose what I'm saying is that the "money stream" you talk about, well, the vape industry has a money stream too, and their interest in preserving it is sometimes going to put them at odds with public health advocates if they market to children. Caffeine and nicotine might be comparable mild stimulants, but addiction to nicotine is certainly not necessary or preferable, nicotine actually is addictive by itself in some people, just as caffeine is, and there is, like it or not, a strong social prohibition against children using nicotine. Will a small amount of insert-whatever-drug-here harm a child? Maybe not, but these social prohibitions still exist. It's just a fact.

We can't talk out of both sides of our mouths and expect to win this. The FDA accuses the vape industry of marketing to children. Well, how can we defend against that if the vape industry is indeed marketing to children? We'll just have to accept an outright ban in that case, perhaps. Yes, education is important, but we will never convince the general populace that, because nicotine is such a mild stimulant, it is ok to market it with cartoon mascots that appeal to children.

I think things are going to get worse for ex smokers in America and elsewhere before they get better. Corporations, including vape manufacturers, might be efficient at making money, but some are horribly inefficient in any other regard - including in helping the public health with sensible products targeted to adults who want to quit smoking. I honestly don't see how Pancake Man is helpful to us vapers any more than Joe Camel was helpful to me. Just my two cents.

No where in my post did I say it was acceptable to market to children. In fact, I said the majority of vapers are in agreement with you. No one agrees that children should vape or smoke, much less be catered to by the vape industry. Myself included. So if you are just looking to argue, look elsewhere. I was hoping to open your mind to all of the problems faced by the vaping industry, not just 1. Believe me, it won't happen again.