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Sugar_and_Spice

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Thanks for the welcome back. OT, I didn't buy anything new while away from the forum but in the past few days, I got shinyitis again and bought about 12 new mods/tanks. I don't need any of them but they were pretty. I have to stop now, sigh. I rationalized it because I accidentally dropped one mod in the pool and another off the lawn mower. Gave two to my son and wouldn't you know the one I dropped off mower is now working. I really must stop because I am not a sub ohm kind of gal and nothing beats the good old Provari for me.All of the new ones are high wattage devices, what was I thinking?
So what did you get?
 
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Education is our best weapon........

I don't know, I sometimes think our best weapon may be actual.... weapons. Nothing wrong with other things as an add on: education, stocking up, fighting the good fight. They're all useful, but IDK how far its gonna take us.

I agree with all the frustration though. I'm stocked up, but I also don't feel all thrilled about the situation, etc.

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No where in my post did I say it was acceptable to market to children. In fact, I said the majority of vapers are in agreement with you. No one agrees that children should vape or smoke, much less be catered to by the vape industry. Myself included. So if you are just looking to argue, look elsewhere. I was hoping to open your mind to all of the problems faced by the vaping industry, not just 1. Believe me, it won't happen again.

Sorry, I was just continuing my thoughts, not arguing with you or what you said. I agree with it all, but my point is, at least in this news cycle against vaping, we can have all the knowledge in the world about the benefits of vaping, but we're going to lose this and get vaping banned if we can't truthfully argue that nicotine should not be sold to teenagers. The news these past few weeks has been about Juuls being marketed to kids, so I'm arguing with vendors that actually do market to kids. It wasn't a response to you. I should have been more clear. I'm nice, I don't want to argue or offend people, I just like to call a spade a spade (you are not the spade, I mean just the issue of marketing to teenagers). And I'm no troll, just a person who vapes and doesn't want his vape banned just so a few vape vendors can put colorful bottles on the market for teens and run off with the money while I'm trying to quit smoking. Again, sorry. Sometimes our intentions and tones don't come through in text, and mine obviously didn't. I am spirited about this, but about the issue, not what you said. Cheers. :)
 

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Getting back to stocking up, I've found the Iclear 10's I picked up from Heavens Gifts, combined with Kanger Esmart batteries, makes a handy stealthy vape. It's lasting all day for my wife at work. I even threw one on an old Roughstack from years ago and it vapes better than any carto did back in the day!
 

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IMO, if you like somewhat "peppery" nic base...MFS is OK. Lots of people who vape tobacco flavored eliquids like it precisely because of the pepperyness. I guess it gives more throat hit to them. I didn't care for it at all myself, but then again...I don't vape tobacco eliquids nor like throat hit.

If you don't want the above, I'd see if Nicotine Giant, or Heartland Vapes, or Wizard Labs, or Liquid Nicotine Wholesalers ship to Australia.

I bought a liter of 100mg nic from EcigExpress a while back. It was water clear, but had a mild TH and a slight peppery taste. My first two liters were from MFS and were fine. I just received a liter from MFS and broke it down into 250ml glass Boston Rounds. It's in the freezer with the rest of my nic. I kept out a 250ml bottle for DIY.

The MFS nic had a really faint yellow tint looking down into the shipped bottle, but was water clear in the glass bottles. I actually liked my previous MFS nic better than the EcigExpress nic for TH. I think it was milder than the EicgExpress nic, but both blended well into my tobacco recipes.
 
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Predator, priv, Avenger and Baby Beast light up tank....all from companies that seem to be hated lol. I like pretty led lights, what can I say.
You know, of course, that you can use any topper on these mods, even at low watts, you will just get more battery time. And sometimes that is useful. Can't argue with a provari tho. I still have a few stashed away in my 'just in case' closet. LOL

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FWIW: The latest July 20, 2018 FDA position on e-cigarettes and related products.

Vaporizers, E-Cigarettes, and other Electronic Nicotine Delivery Systems (ENDS)
I got an email saying that now FDA is coming out with 4 different news letters. I think it was 1 for each stage of applications, and the others can't think of off the top of my head. Did not sound like something I wanted in my face all the time..... so I trashed the email.....can find info again if anyone wants it.


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I got an email saying that now FDA is coming out with 4 different news letters. I think it was 1 for each stage of applications, and the others can't think of off the top of my head. Did not sound like something I wanted in my face all the time..... so I trashed the email.....can find info again if anyone wants it.


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Right now it seems that they are concentrating their efforts on preventing children from obtaining vape products. I support preventing kids under 18 from being able to buy vape products. School kids vaping has been a stain on the vaping industry. It's too easy for smoke and vape haters to point to vaping and say it has to be banned "for the kids".
 

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One more article and I'll stop, but this one from July 2018 starts at the beginning and chronicles the fight between Vaping and the FDA better than I've seen. It fills in the cracks and explains how and why the FDA stepped into the fight against Vaping. It's a must read.

On Vaping, the Trump Administration Is Offering Some Hope
 

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Right now it seems that they are concentrating their efforts on preventing children from obtaining vape products. I support preventing kids under 18 from being able to buy vape products. School kids vaping has been a stain on the vaping industry. It's too easy for smoke and vape haters to point to vaping and say it has to be banned "for the kids".
the FDA would be better off focusing on all the sugar and drugs pumped into children. Our kids are fat, learning issues and definitely a violence problem,, 'here have some gluten packed sugar enhanced well fertilized cereal for breakfast and again at dinner'........dont worry,, its 'good for you'
 

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Right now it seems that they are concentrating their efforts on preventing children from obtaining vape products. I support preventing kids under 18 from being able to buy vape products. School kids vaping has been a stain on the vaping industry. It's too easy for smoke and vape haters to point to vaping and say it has to be banned "for the kids".
So where are all these haters when kids get their hands on cigarettes? Don't see that in the news. Don't see threats of banning and haters all up in your face either......Makes no sense to accept the known killer--cigarettes---- when an a less harmful alternative presents itself........its no wonder the government thinks the public is too stupid to govern themselves...Can't fix stupid.
 

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The paradox is that Juul is the most popular with kids.
It's also the most adult oriented marketing. Plain & boring.
For the longest time it was only available in 50mg/ml strength.
Kids like them for stealth and the buzz.
Kids used to like blowing clouds and surveys said most used 0mg.
Now they're getting addicted to nic salts so they can stealth vape.
Childish labeling is what ANTZ present to legislators and everyone is shocked at the industry's immaturity while Juul banks billions with adult labeling.

About beards & tats - Scary looking MFs do Toys For Tots bike runs while Armani clad snakes market & lobby to bank billions.

Very common English idiom "don't judge a book by its cover"
origin - Roman author Juvenal (1st and 2nd centuries AD)
 
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The paradox is that Juul is the most popular with kids.
It's also the most adult oriented marketing. Plain & boring.
For the longest time it was only available in 50mg/ml strength.
Kids like them for stealth and the buzz.
Kids used to like blowing clouds and surveys said most used 0mg.
Now they're getting addicted to nic salts so they can stealth vape.
Childish labeling is what ANTZ present to legislators and everyone is shocked at the industry's immaturity while Juul banks billions with adult labeling.

About beards & tats - Scary looking MFs do Toys For Tots bike runs while Armani clad snakes market & lobby to bank billions.

Very common English idiom "don't judge a book by its cover"
origin - Roman author Juvenal (1st and 2nd centuries AD)
i like to see a biker with tats,, it likely matches their lives/views,, possibly earned.
my only pet peeve about beards,, why do so many american men wear ISIS style beards? its not sexy,, now I do like a very well trimmed beard,, (no hair on the neck,,, and even better if shaved up to the jaw line)
 

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