Hmm that is now tobacco Vodka, you know intended use LOL
Hey that's Great.
But where the Fall Down with the Numbers occurs is in the Belief that the Smoking Rates will continue to Fall in the Long Term. Verses, what many Believe will/has already happened, that Smoking Rates will Stabilize at a given Percentage.
Very Few believe that e-Cigarettes can/will replace All 1st time Smokers. And Sustained, Long Term Drops in Teen Smoking are just not Possible. Not Possible in a "Free Market". And sure as Hell Not Possible in a Heavily Restricted FDA Regulated Market.
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When I talked about alcohol in every grocery store I meant isopropyl alcohol not food stores with liquor licenses.
Consumable alcohol is available, without paying exile taxes, to industry. They are restricted in what they can do with it.
The food and pharma industries similarly use PG and VG. And regardless they could continue that while consumers are restricted.
How many people do you know that regularly buy and store Pg in their house? I've never met anyone that even knew what it was.
Some people use VG as a skin emollient. But I doubt many consumers actually drink it or use it as a sweetener or thickener in their cooking and baking. You can put isopropyl alcohol on your skin but you can't drink it and that was the point of my analogy to consumable alcohol vs grocery store ISO alcohol.
So you have to ask yourself how many non-vaping voters would be pi$$ed off if some nonconsumable additive were added to PG and VG sold at the retail level....
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I can see the day I'm down to the final bottle of nic in the freezer and planting tobacco in my backyard and doing extractions in my bathtub. If I can grow enough, I can take the excess out on a street corner to sell to cover my start up expenses and London shopping sprees. I can see my future, the glamorous life of a nic dealer.
It's all good! The scenarios @WillyZee mention are my reality. I was in some fast food spot. Dude walked in with a case, put it on a table, popped it open & I swear.....it was filled with a gazillion eGo vape pens & ej00ze! I was like.....ohhhhWhen I posted that, I was really thinking about some of the...um, rolling lab types we have here in cornfield country. If you read the reports, they'll steal the goofiest things.
I honestly don't know how to equate what might really happen in a city. I should have been clearer.
is this what we doin' now!? This same guy used to sell DVD's out that case. 
Hahahaa!! I tasted the Everclear once.....that ish grew hair on the bottom of my feet!!!!Lol's.
I hate to think what the cheap vodka I bought actually tastes like.
Course, I could prob wrangle some "shine", a guy I work with actually brought some samples in...
THE RESPONSE
1)--Remove tobacco classification because vaping products are primarily 100% tobacco free
2)--Change the predicate date from April 15, 2007 to the current date in (2016/2017/...) for the Pre-Market Tobacco Applications process (PMTA).
Am I the only one that sees what is so wrong about the above.
If we do # 1 number 2 should be totally unnecessary. Vaping is not smoking and vaping devices and e-liquid are not tobacco products......period!
Yep, vaping does not involve tobacco or smoking.
I took the responses from one document regarding litigation. I do some more research over the next week. They are arguing on as many fronts as possible and making them prove point by point to try and derail their legislation/rules. Depending on which points they win on, this whole even may become malleable to our liking or entirely go away, although I would not put my money on the latter.
So the FDA would regulate which industries would have access to PG and VG, and issue licenses for use like states do for alcohol used in manufacturing? I just can't see them extending their reach that far over commercial sales. Talk about overreaching.
His name was Vinny and @WillyZee gets a kick back!It's all good! The scenarios @WillyZee mention are my reality. I was in some fast food spot. Dude walked in with a case, put it on a table, popped it open & I swear.....it was filled with a gazillion eGo vape pens & ej00ze! I was like.....ohhhh
My hubby has a solution forget sin tax on vape products not enough users, legalize and regulate other things and tax them, make much more $'s on those illegal sin things than any state would make on vape tax. Think Colorado and Nevada, they are taking in the dough
I wonder if I submitted pure VG if it would pass LOL
If I had a million or so laying around I would do it just cuz!
I have no idea what your problem is with what I said.
Eta: and did you miss where I said previously that I have no problem with ANYONE blowing clouds? Anyone includes adults...
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I think the intent of use applies to retailers such as Lightning Vapes, where wire itself isn't a problem, but becomes included from specific retailers. Flavorings/PG/VG/Measuring Devices would fall under this say from Bull City Vapor, but not VG from CVS, pg from Tractor Suppy, Flavorings bought direct from Flavor West/Capella.
One thing that's going to happen is unemployment. Sad.
One thing that's going to happen is unemployment. Sad.
It tastes exactly like what you get in a bar if you order a rail vodka and tonic. Or if you don't specify and the bartender doesn't try to upsell youLol's.
I hate to think what the cheap vodka I bought actually tastes like.
Course, I could prob wrangle some "shine", a guy I work with actually brought some samples in...
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