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Upgrades considered stocking up?

Mime's Masterful Toolbag. 3 weeks from ordered to received from FT. I like it.

Awesome toolkit! My kit is stuffed with additional tools and paraphernalia, cotton, coils, etc, to the point that it won't zip shut any more.
 

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I went to another vape shop yesterday in search of a pod system for a relative. It was a year since I was in that shop and they have really upped their game. I bought a Timesvape Keen mech mod from them and they were willing to order an extension tube for me. They also had coils for a Nautilus tank! Best of all, the person working there knows about vaping. When the store first opened, the person working there was just a cashier. Hopefully this is a trend among B&M's.
 

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Shipping ETAs mean nothing at FT. As an example, I placed an order on the 26th. One of my items was "ships in 10 days". Now after ordering and up until today, the estimated shipping date for that item was 1/7/2022 and the rest 12/30/2021 (all of which were "ships next day" or "Ships in 5 days" on the product page when I ordered). Today, that one item that had the ETA of "ships in 10 days" and ETA of 1/7/2022 after purchase is now "ready to ship", whereas the rest still show ETA of 12/30/2021. None of this bothers me, but it just goes to show you that you're better off just ordering what you want and don't pay attention to those ETAs. This is nothing new.

My last order last month, I paid with Gift Cert and one of the items was actually no longer available. They offered to refund me via paypal refund from my GC purchase. So that's was honest of them.

Some vapers new to china buying might be turned off to this, but for me, I can deal. Especially being that I'm not in a hurry. It can chip in March 2022 and I couldn't care less lol. These items are probably going to be discontinued so so I'm grateful to have even found them.
 

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Shipping ETAs mean nothing at FT... Some vapers new to china buying might be turned off to this, but for me, I can deal.

Even longtime buyers from China can get turned off by this. Like holding on to your money for 5 months and then told they are now discontinued. Of course the colors you wanted have disappeared from other vendors shelves months ago. Now you are left scrambling for the items (in awful colors) you wanted at top dollar vendors before they are completely gone from store shelves.
 

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Even longtime buyers from China can get turned off by this.

That's true.

For me, all I ever buy is accessories and clones attys in the past couple years and FT is king of accessories and clone attys. Only exception is a few 21700 mechs I bough earlier this year. I got all the mods, kits & coils I need on sale or clearance stateside. I also know how to deal with FT to get things moving and get the customer service I need. People don;t like hte game that might have to be played, but from what I have been reading lately in the USA, it's also a crapshow and you have to pay taxes, sign for delivery, and wait the same amount of time anyhow. lol

Another thing people get turned off about is the whole secret paypal payment everyone is doing. People find that shady, but as I told a couple people lately, in the USA we are dealing in black market now, believe it or not. Basically, any "tobacco product" not approved to be marketed in the USA is an illegal product for sale to US buyers. That's not a grey market like some people think, that's a black market.

I sold a clearomizer and some coils on Reddit 3 weeks ago and the dude sent paypal payment with note "/u/[USERNAME] 1x [NAME OF PRODUCT]". Now I told him not to put anything in the notes area, so I immediately refunded his payment. He contacted me all pist and I responded berating him for not understanding the situation we are in, him being a long-time vaper. There's no excuse for it IMHO. I have a decent amount of swap rating and a 10 year old account. If you can't trust a person like that enough so much that you'd jeopardize both your and their PP account, then you need to buy from a vendor. This is black market trading. I'm not pist about losing the sale. I was selling at a loss anyhow and $15 in my pocket isn't going to make me rich lol. I just get irritated when someone who has vaped for so long doesn't understand these things. Sorry for the rant, but I've been livid about this and other vapers not "getting it" for the past month or so.
 

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For me, all I ever buy is accessories and clones attys in the past couple years and FT is king of accessories and clone attys.

I don't know if they are the king or not. I think they have their share of competitors. Like I have 8 or 9 Heatvape Invader Mini mods and I was in the market for those 510 caps for spares (also handy for atty stands). FT never had them. I don't believe FT ever had the Invader Mini mod itself. They were the first waterproof and shockproof mod even before the first Aegis showed up (they used a very good DNA40 clone @ 50 watts). Btw, the same engineer who created the Invader Mini also created the Aegis.

Speaking of the original Aegis, I was looking for those optional 21700 battery caps for them. FT never had those either. So I had to look elsewhere again. But I have lots of examples of stories just like this. I believe I actually got more accessories from 3avape than from FT.

Another thing people get turned off about is the whole secret paypal payment everyone is doing. People find that shady, but as I told a couple people lately, in the USA we are dealing in black market now, believe it or not. Basically, any "tobacco product" not approved to be marketed in the USA is an illegal product for sale to US buyers. That's not a grey market like some people think, that's a black market.

The way I understand it, there is nothing illegal about individual to individual sales (assuming nobody is underage) for personal use. As FDA rules doesn't apply to individuals. Nor does it apply to commercial vendors outside of the US to US individuals. As both are outside of FDA regulations. But that doesn't stop individual states from banning anything they want to. So it maybe illegal locally, but not Federally.
 

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Fasttech can't carry accessories that aren't being made and that no clone factory is willing to product.

All in all, FT is king of accessories & clones - your rebuttals to that are purely anecdotal.

Have fun browsing: FastTech's Ecig Search Page


The way I understand it, there is nothing illegal about individual to individual sales (assuming nobody is underage) for personal use.

It's illegal to send tobacco products consumer-to-consumer without following the rules, which make sending anything accept maybe high end products not worth it (~$30 for a max 10 oz package with adult sig required). But anything without PMTA approval is an illegal tobacco product anyhow.
 

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I haven't interpreted what I've read that way.
I COULD be wrong but I think the FDA regs make it illegal to commercially market products - no applicability to owning them, or even to selling/trading consumer-to-consumer.
However, without a law or regulation requiring it exactly, all the major carriers (USPS, FedEx, UPS) have created policies against delivering them - so there's that, too.

Still - buying and selling used gear amongst ourselves should be as "safe" as it ever was - and I don't believe it violates any law or regulation.

Fasttech can't carry accessories that aren't being made and that no clone factory is willing to product.

All in all, FT is king of accessories & clones - your rebuttals to that are purely anecdotal.

Have fun browsing: FastTech's Ecig Search Page




It's illegal to send tobacco products consumer-to-consumer without following the rules, which make sending anything accept maybe high end products not worth it (~$30 for a max 10 oz package with adult sig required). But anything without PMTA approval is an illegal tobacco product anyhow.
 

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Fasttech can't carry accessories that aren't being made and that no clone factory is willing to product.

All in all, FT is king of accessories & clones - your rebuttals to that are purely anecdotal.

Have fun browsing: FastTech's Ecig Search Page

This was during 2015 when the Invader Mini was manufactured. FT never had the 510 caps, but 3avape did as well as a few US vendors (probably some in the EU too). Nor did they ever have 21700 battery caps when the original Aegis was being manufactured two years later.

It's illegal to send tobacco products consumer-to-consumer without following the rules, which make sending anything accept maybe high end products not worth it (~$30 for a max 10 oz package with adult sig required). But anything without PMTA approval is an illegal tobacco product anyhow.

You are talking about shipping through USPS. Those are USPS rules, not FDA rules. And the feds have no problem where you buy your tobacco product personally, as long as you pay for the taxes. And so far (knock on wood), there isn't any Federal tax on vaping nicotine. But some locals do.
 
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