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I couldn't agree with you more! The government should enforce their own laws re. underage purchases for everything equally--be it cigarettes, alcohol, e-cigs, cannabis (where legal). Go after those who break the law and knowingly sell to kids. Don't punish me because someone else somewhere breaks the bloody law. I don't. And I don't want to be traced, tracked, or get on some list of nicotine users or what have you.
Hmm, Doesn't a lot of NIC come grom there? I wonder if that will still be available.Just a few random thought on that.
Addendum: Just heard India is the 2nd largest cigarette market and they just banned all e-cigs "immediately". Any vendor with a stock of them are supposed to turn them over to the police.
- Costs are higher per unit to include the minor alkaloids.
- Makes it more difficult for a hardcore smoker to make the switch
- Vaping doesn't replace smoking in the long game
For me absolutely nothing will change.I got to thinking, when the vape ban hits, how many are going to be just like, yeah, I've been off the smokes for a couple years now, vaping was cool and all that, but yeah, guess I'll just kick this thing and just keep on with my life without all that...A boat load of folks quit smoking without vaping or any BP nico substitute crapola...and I know that I personally crave nic waaaaaay less than when I was a smoker. I like to think that folks will be OK in the end, that, or they will go nutz and storm the FDA headquarters en masse armed to the teeth and ready to get medieval on them weasels.<<< Just Kidding, humor post, in case some nasty beaurocrap is reading my nonsense.
I agree, but how well is that working out? Parents aren't allowed to physically discipline their teens any more or 241-KIDS gets called. Teens don't fear or respect their parents. Not like you or I did.
That's a good point but raising children needs to start from the day they are born. Too many parents want to be their kids friends instead of being their parents. Parents also need to realize that it's their responsibility to educate their children and not the schools.
You just brought up a case of distribution, and are suggesting this is not a problem. Then it can't possibly be any sort of problem to distribute say four 15 ML bottles to someone who happens to just want to give back $30 for the fun of it.
120 ml is a bigger bottle than I've ever purchased in my vaping life. Humors me that you selected that amount.
Probably should be in its own thread, but how do you keep teens from getting vapes, alcohol, pot, opiates, ..., etc? I am all ears.
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Yeah, most vapers are not even on forums, and most likely don't have a clue what's about to go down. When they suddenly can't buy their Juul Mango or whatever the particular thing they have been using disappears, I was just thinking maybe some may opt to just tough it out. I know for me I will never smoke again...I would rather hang on to my anger at the Govmt lackeys and BT and just do whatever it takes, even if that meant using over the counter nic products, but yeah, smoking again...no way, been away from that crap for way to long to ever go back...
IMO the short and (most) realistic answer is you don't. Kids are going to continue to vape regardless.
I think there's a longer winded answer that I could provide which would truly help, but is also not realistic.
The reality is, as I see it, there's a belief that curtailing the legal (adult) vaping market will greatly impact the availability or accessibility that youth have in obtaining product going forward. However, a market will persist and that one will be exponentially more harmful to kids. Yet the fact remains that kids today (and for awhile) have not been buying vaping products on the open legal market. Just another example that black markets exist, aren't truly that deadly (for vaping nic), plus establishes that where there's a demand, a supply chain will manifest, however illegal that is.
Apologies if this has been posted already but I found this very interesting:
This is essentially a testimony from a lady who got sick from the illicit THC cartridges. Very interesting testimony and discussion.
This is essentially a testimony from a lady who got sick from the illicit THC cartridges. Very interesting testimony and discussion.
You Can't 100% Prevent Teens from Doing Anything.
That's what so Many have such a Hard Time with. They Can't wrap their Heads around that Concept.
You can Beat Youth Use rates down to a certain point thru Education, or Scare Tactics, and or Restricting this or Regulating that, but you Can't get it below a Baseline Percentage.
It's Doesn't mean that we shouldn't be trying. Or that Nothing should be done.
But what it Does Mean is that there will come a Point where what you are Trying to do, and the Benefits you get from your Efforts, are Outweighed by the Harm you are doing to another Segment of the Population.
Flavor Bans are good Example of this.
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I guess you could put a chip in their bodies and monitor it.
But, since we are not yet fully a Communist country, nor am I interested in moving closer to it, how about handling it the old-fashioned way? Parents teach them from the time they are born and then do the typical parental checks. Do parents not do that anymore??? Stores should do their part and card to make sure the buyer is of legal age. But, we all know that if teens really want alcohol, etc., they are going to get it. It's been happening for generations. Why all "the sky is falling" hysteria now? This is not new behavior for a teen.Note: If I was still a teen and had a Juul, I GUARANTEE you, my Mother would have already found it.
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How about not act like a victim and prepare for what's to come.Good for you, YAY! you get a prize!
Yeah, most vapers are not even on forums, and most likely don't have a clue what's about to go down. When they suddenly can't buy their Juul Mango or whatever the particular thing they have been using disappears, I was just thinking maybe some may opt to just tough it out. I know for me I will never smoke again...I would rather hang on to my anger at the Govmt lackeys and BT and just do whatever it takes, even if that meant using over the counter nic products, but yeah, smoking again...no way, been away from that crap for way to long to ever go back...
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