Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

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Only your last sentence is a factual statement.

There Are states (Virginia for one) that recognize that a motor vehicle will Only be used on Private Property, ie; a farm and thusly Does Not have to pay for a license plate. Virgina law actually allows the farmer to drive the unregistered car all over the place on public roads. (If he smiles real big and says, "But occifer, I'm on farm related business.")

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

25 Miles..........ex farm boy experience. Even Farmers need supplies.:cool:
and you still have to have paid for a Title and Registered as a Farm Vehicle.

Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles

You chose the state :D
 
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I myself started with Blu and literally sucked my face into a permanent "pucker" trying to get those things to satisfy me.

Me too! I stuck it out for a couple of months then I found egos which made a big difference. Now look at all the things available to us.
 

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Me too! I stuck it out for a couple of months then I found egos which made a big difference. Now look at all the things available to us.
Do you know what's sad... I like the feel and size of a blu, wish it was rebuildable!
 

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Let's stay on topic please :)
 

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I'd buy a ticket to this event. :D
I'd pay for his plane fare to the United Kingdom.
And if was a Pay-Per-View event I would still be all over it.

No way Satan Glantz would ever do it.

And I imagine he's probably already found this thread.
I wish he would register and weigh in.

I was so nice to him on the phone.
It felt a little dirty.
 
I'm new here (first post), and this is one of the more interesting topics to me. I find it unbelievable that the government is trying to regulate e cigarettes the way that they are....well actually not. I think the amount of money that they would lose with electronic cigarettes\vaping staying around at the level it is, is cutting into the profits they see from traditional tobacco sales...I don't really see any other reason why they would try to regulate them the way they are.

I know that e cigs are what are responsible for helping me quit smoking, and I feel 10,000x's better since i've quit. I actually started ECASSOC.org to help spread the word about the different organizations that are out there, then I plan on building doing the Best Electronic Cigarette Brands & Reviews 2016 page to help people find the vaping device that gives them the best chance of quitting. I know when I first tried to quit I went through many different e cigs to find the right one...

Does anyone agree with me that the government is doing this for their own pockets? I just don't see any other reason why they would do this. Remember you have a right to vape! Lets keep fighting this thing!
 

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Does anyone agree with me that the government is doing this for their own pockets? I just don't see any other reason why they would do this.

Governments of all kinds (except ours, as it was so constituted, but that is no longer the case) want to control people. With that control, they can also get money. Without that control they can't. So for me, control is the main factor, but since they already have much control of our lives, money is also a big factor - as it keeps them in control.
 

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Last time I'm going to say this. After this, we start handing out warnings and suspensions. Do NOT link to sites that sell pure nicotine. This is not open for debate, nor is it permitted on ECF.

So my post was deleted/censored.

The site I mentioned finding in a google search most surely does not sell pure nic or anything vape related, it is a .gov site run by NIH to help smokers quit.
 
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Don't.

The chinaman selling you the pure nic - he knows he's violating international and national regs and laws by doing so under false declaration. So his adress on the shipping label is most likely as genuine as a three-dollar bill.
Yours isn't.

So trouble will come looking for you instead.

Usually it's a stern warning and a fine the first time round. For the penal side.

The civil side is another kettle of fish.
You might have noticed that airports, seaports, etc have been converted into maximum security facilities. The places where cargo and mail are processed aren't any different. Your bottle gets bumped, spills, someone gets whoozy or even keels over - the whole facility will go into lockdown, just like they cordon off parts of a terminal when an unattended bag is noticed. Then they move in the specialists geared up in hazmat suits and canned air. Costly, that. Small facility, maybe you can swing the tab they're running up. Major sorting hub goes offline for a few hours - your great-grandchildren might be able to settle the last installment on that invoice for your foolery.
And it will give vaping opponents all the political mileage they need.

So please, don't
 

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Okay, so I sent the email to Satan GlANTZ with the requested link...
TOBACCOCONTROL : Tobacco Control

Here is his reply...
The key sentence in the paper (supported by the data in the tables) is:

The results also confirmed that the use of e-cigarettes in addition to tobacco smoking (dual use) does not seem to encourage tobacco smokers to quit tobacco.

And yes, I explained very well the concept of dual use leading to eventual quitting.
I'm sure he was quite interested in what I had to say.
[/SARCASM]

By the way, I have no desire to carry on any kind of conversation with him.
I'd rather see him take it up with Clive Bates.
:thumbs:

I will not be replying, and I will continue to refer to him as Satan GlANTZ.
Just in case he's reading this, which I hope he is.
 
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I think the alcohol sampling comes down to state laws. I know here in NC one has to have a license to serve alcohol on the premises, including free samples. There's also a separate one for wine/beer than there is liquor.

That being said I work in a store that has free samples of wine and there has been several times someone who wasnt looking to buy wine will sample it and then buy it, so I think most stores are doing it to up there sales.

I bet very people who goes into a vape shop go in without the intention to buy juice, try it and then decide to. I think most people try it in that case simply because they want to buy it in the first place.

Personally I would not buy a new eliquid without trying it first anymore, wasted way too much money buying eliquid that sounded fantastic only to be completely gacked out by it once I tried it, but, I have tried flavors that I did not think I would like but ended up loving. So I think it will hurt shops not to be able to let people try it first.
 

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Okay, so I sent the email to Satan GlANTZ with the requested link...
TOBACCOCONTROL : Tobacco Control

Here is his reply...


By the way, I have no desire to carry on any kind of conversation with him.
I'd rather see him take it up with Clive Bates.
:thumbs:

I will not be replying, and I will continue to refer to him as Satan GlANTZ.
Just in case he's reading this, which I hope he is.
So, he doesn't recognize the harm reduction in lowering the number of cigarettes smoked. He also doesn't recognize that "dual use" is often a step from smoker to vaper, a step that can take in indeterminate amount of time(much like the new instructions on NRT).

Are you surprised?
 

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I do not care about finding any nic of any strength, have that covered, but if someone is browsing online for juice like I was, starting to type in "eliquid" autofilled in google and directed me to the stop smoking site.

google does this based on your search and browsing history, it's an individual thing.
 
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wasted way too much money buying eliquid that sounded fantastic only to be completely gacked out by it once I tried it,

It was my biggest expense starting out. I don't consider it 'wasted' because I was able to nail down what I really liked and that hasn't changed (with a few exceptions - Ahlusion's JG Blend and Kent's Blend coffee) since late 2009. It made bulk buys for DIY much more comfortable having found 'the' flavors I truly liked.
 

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Time to ammend the Big Bang Theory.
I know, right?

Since EVERYTHING is now a tobacco product by some degree of association...
It seems reasonable to assume that God is actually a tobacco plant...

And the Big Bang started when a tobacco leaf fell off God and exploded.


EDIT: This theory also kind of helps explain multiple universes...
EDIT: Because yeah, multiple leaves!!
EDIT: :laugh:
 
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Personally I would not buy a new eliquid without trying it first anymore, wasted way too much money buying eliquid that sounded fantastic only to be completely gacked out by it once I tried it, but, I have tried flavors that I did not think I would like but ended up loving. So I think it will hurt shops not to be able to let people try it first.
This is so true that "liking" it wasn't enough.
So I had to quote it and say how true I thought it was.
:D
 

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