Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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You got the double whammy!Trust me Lori, having live Most of my like in California, I Don't look on that as being a Negative Attitude.
Of course not. Because it hasn't been tried with concrete supporting data. This is why the UK offers a ray of hope.
You have to deal with overreaching government from the feds and CA.
Waping WILL be proven to be harmful to our health is some way. Of that I am certain.
However it so far has been proven to MUCH less harmful to our health than smoking.
Vaping cannot be as healthy for us as not vaping.
This typed as I vape on my diketone ridden Vanilla Custard V1 concoction.
However it so far has been proven to MUCH less harmful to our health than smoking.
Vaping cannot be as healthy for us as not vaping.
This typed as I vape on my diketone ridden Vanilla Custard V1 concoction.
Well I may be easy but I'm not cheap!lol, good to know since I am about 35 miles from you.
mmmm well sometimes I'm cheap but not easy!
oooh well there's also times when I'm both Cheap and Easy
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Bronze, I don't think one has to stock up all at once. There are good sales already due to some leaving (sad) and I expect many more deals in the future. We still have at least a couple years.
As for stocking enough to last 40 years, I think that is doable if one can use rba attys. I hate fiddling with them so that has been my one concern. I have tons of flavorings and other stuff. I have nic that is over 7 years old at room temp and it seems fine. I use a low nic so if I feel like it is not good, I can always go 0 nic. We won't have all the variety and maybe not be able to get the preferred stuff but we can make this work for a long time.
As for stocking enough to last 40 years, I think that is doable if one can use rba attys. I hate fiddling with them so that has been my one concern. I have tons of flavorings and other stuff. I have nic that is over 7 years old at room temp and it seems fine. I use a low nic so if I feel like it is not good, I can always go 0 nic. We won't have all the variety and maybe not be able to get the preferred stuff but we can make this work for a long time.
So far the UK are a beacon of light for us and I really believe they will continue to be so for one major reason. They actually have national healthcare so it's in their best financial interest to keep their citizens healthy. Unlike here where it's more profitable to have a sick population and die early before they can collect SS
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There is no indication whatsoever that the govt position on vaping is based on fact or science. None.
If the FDA can demand that eLiquid that contains no nic or other form of tobacco be labeled "This product contains tobacco" then I think that tells any reasonable person that facts simply do not matter. If they can do that, quite openly, they can ignore anything they want.
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I'm actually lucky, if you can call it that. My rep is a co-sponsor of HB 2058.Trust me Lori, having lived Most of my life in California, I Don't look on that as being a Negative Attitude.
I send him "thank you for your continued support" correspondence.
Flame me if you all must, but I didn't bother writing to Durbin. I knew the canned response I would get might send me over the edge.
Honestly, once my vape supplies run out, which if I can reduce my mg, they may last most of the rest of my life time, but if not, in the end, I may go back to smoking just to skip the adult diaper years.
I've seen that side with my dad...I'm good missing those years.
That's what I used to tell my doctor when he would get onto me about smoking. Funny, he never disagreed with me though.
Besides, I smoked for 30+ years, there's no guarantee that's not going to come back to bite me anyway.
We've just all got to do what we personally feel comfortable with...to the best of our abilities.
Fighting these deeming regs, stocking up, or not stocking up, stocking up enough to help others, etc.
We can only do so much.
It can absolutely be healthier. Inhaling an antibacterial may prove very healthy. Nic has known health benefits. I very much disagree that vaping has to be less healthy.
And it is far healthier than many foods most people ingest. That's a no-brainer. Diabetes affects a larger population than smokes cigs. And supposedly takes the same number of years off one's life. The difference is that no one can be sure they are not at risk of diabetes, where otherwise you either smoke or you don't .
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Yep I've been stocking for the last few months, I really do have more hoarded than I can possibly use for the rest of my life. This has been from just keeping an eye out on sales. Been getting great deals on Mod's, RDA's, RTA's, 100mg nic juice, wire, etc. I'm in a passive mode now just increasing the stockpile so I can assist friends and family when/if they choose to quit the Stinkies.
I'm very confident that Vaping will go underground and due to the bans and excessive regulations will only serve to make it more attractive. We know how people like giving the middle finger to the man. The best chance we really have to hope for is for the FDA B.S. to be challenged and held up in the courts. With amount of money that is involved from Tax revenue to the bloated massive industry surrounding tobacco I'm pretty sure we're still going to get screwed. If only by massive sin tax's alone.
I desperately hope I'm wrong, but just look at ours and most other governments in the world and don't think I am.
Stock up people, not just for your sake but for loved ones too.
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Totally agree. But if you're an insurance company and want to lower your costs then what better way than to cure/alleviate a giant health cost (e.g., tobacco related diseases)? This is why insurance companies want people to get colonoscopies at age 50. A lot cheaper to deal with it then before it's too late. And as we know, insurance companies carry a lot of weight in this country....for better or worse.
The insurance industry agenda: they hope you quit smoking by vaping so they can keep charging you smoking rates
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