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Apparently, the FDA in 2018 is still harping the negative effects of nicotine on the brain and other organs. They haven't seen the posts of vapers who lowered their nicotine to zero without issues. I did it, but it was boring, so I went back to 3mg strength. At no time stepping down from 24mg to 0mg did I experience cravings at an increased rate. I did it in weekly stages and let my body get used to the changes over a month or more. Zero nic was just too bland for me, so 3mg brought back the nic mouth sensation.
July 26, 2018:
FDA In Brief: FDA affirms commitment to warning the public about nicotine in tobacco products following court ruling
July 26, 2018:
FDA In Brief: FDA affirms commitment to warning the public about nicotine in tobacco products following court ruling
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Lately I guess I'm wondering why any government cares SO MUCH, (I mean, besides the obvious). No one cared when tobacco was the only option (when it was killing people off in droves but filling coffers) no one cares about the way our food is handled and the fact that animals are raised in such unsanitary conditions they are being mass fed expired antibiotics so they don't die until they're "slaughtered," no one cares about so many health things that really DO matter so much more. And then "we" get blamed for using abx "too much." I don't voluntarily eat meat stuffed full of abx, but that is a far more likely culprit than giving someone abx when perhaps "unnecessary" (although both are poor practices.) I mean I'm not a fan of antibiotic resistant TB or MRSA, I'm just not.
Sometimes, I just want to go "apply a sin tax and be done with it, ai'ait?" I mean, I don't want sin taxes for vaping although they're already here, but it seems to me that there are so many more pressing problems that face "society today" than vaping. It's disgusting, it truly is.
I don't trust the FDA either, and not because it's in charge of vaping, necessarily, but because it sucks as an ORGANIZATION. I use the oldest generic drugs whenever I can get away with it, mainly because more prescription drugs kill people every year than illicit ones. I mean, sure, some of that is due to poor prescribing, but a lot of it is due to the fact that ANY FDA study is 12 weeks LONG maximum. This means that anyone taking a new drug (I take one) is basically being a guinea pig for the FDA and there is NO long term data about its safe use, and judging from like, the amount of medical malpractice ads against new drugs I see (and I hardly watch TV anymore) well, I'd say a fair percentage of the suits are like, guinea pig status ones.
I would approach any FDA "vape box" with a fair amount of skepticism and a side order of terror.
Vaping has been around FAR longer than 12 weeks, and it has a pretty darn good safety record (so far) compared to new drug development.
I mean, I'm like just leave my vaping alone and sin tax me! Because I guarantee whatever the FDA winds up going with, it will be a horrid, awful hybrid of low nic tobacco and weird pod systems that self destruct if you try to open them. THAT is what is annoying.
And, indeed it is all about money, greed and power. Some of the more rigorous overseas testing of vape AND medications take place overseas, quite often in Britain. I find it a bit hubristic given the FDA's "own" testing practices, that they won't credit any overseas studies and require a lot of medication that would be really useful over here using "their" methodology which really often sucks way worse than the original studies (not to mention if a drug is off patent and shown as SAFE, well, no one's going to pay for FDA studies for a drug that's already considered generic, although patent laws for meds mean that if something has GONE generic, it's been tested in the real world for over a decade.) Etc.
Anan
Sometimes, I just want to go "apply a sin tax and be done with it, ai'ait?" I mean, I don't want sin taxes for vaping although they're already here, but it seems to me that there are so many more pressing problems that face "society today" than vaping. It's disgusting, it truly is.
I don't trust the FDA either, and not because it's in charge of vaping, necessarily, but because it sucks as an ORGANIZATION. I use the oldest generic drugs whenever I can get away with it, mainly because more prescription drugs kill people every year than illicit ones. I mean, sure, some of that is due to poor prescribing, but a lot of it is due to the fact that ANY FDA study is 12 weeks LONG maximum. This means that anyone taking a new drug (I take one) is basically being a guinea pig for the FDA and there is NO long term data about its safe use, and judging from like, the amount of medical malpractice ads against new drugs I see (and I hardly watch TV anymore) well, I'd say a fair percentage of the suits are like, guinea pig status ones.
I would approach any FDA "vape box" with a fair amount of skepticism and a side order of terror.
Vaping has been around FAR longer than 12 weeks, and it has a pretty darn good safety record (so far) compared to new drug development.
I mean, I'm like just leave my vaping alone and sin tax me! Because I guarantee whatever the FDA winds up going with, it will be a horrid, awful hybrid of low nic tobacco and weird pod systems that self destruct if you try to open them. THAT is what is annoying.
And, indeed it is all about money, greed and power. Some of the more rigorous overseas testing of vape AND medications take place overseas, quite often in Britain. I find it a bit hubristic given the FDA's "own" testing practices, that they won't credit any overseas studies and require a lot of medication that would be really useful over here using "their" methodology which really often sucks way worse than the original studies (not to mention if a drug is off patent and shown as SAFE, well, no one's going to pay for FDA studies for a drug that's already considered generic, although patent laws for meds mean that if something has GONE generic, it's been tested in the real world for over a decade.) Etc.
Anan
Agreed.
C O N T R O L…is an insidious addiction, insatiable in its needs and as much delusion as the waves of an ocean in the desert. Its inescapable character is vanity.
Good luck.
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Agreed.
C O N T R O L…is an insidious addiction, insatiable in its needs and as much delusion as the waves of an ocean in the desert. It's inescapable character is vanity.
Good luck.
Congress has to have an output that makes people think they are doing their job. Constituent pacification is important, too. You have to consider the voters in your district. Make them mad and you are out of office in the next voting cycle.
“Political tags — such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth — are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number. The latter are surly curmudgeons, suspicious and lacking in altruism. But they are more comfortable neighbors than the other sort.”
―Robert A. Heinlein
And the politicians always weigh their vote in comparison with constituents at home. Don't want to aggravate the voters! Abstain or vote Yeah and let the rest of your cronies vote down that new job creator plant in your district! Tell lies about vaping and the non-vaping public will continue to believe them.
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Actually, I kind of feel rather the reverse is true, and has been ominously "building" for some time since Nixon when politicians first figured out, "Oh my, there is this independent thing called Journalism that actually has POWER."
Scares and desires of constituents are for the most part being "manufactured" by the media controlled by politicians (all sides). If you do not believe that, just compare the "debates" in the last presidential ELECTION. There was more interest, breathless commentary about freaking EITHER side of the PRIMARIES than the "debate" offered to the libertarian party. No one was interested, because no one was informed they SHOULD be interested, nor was it covered in such a way or presented in such a way as to GENERATE any interest.
If you think the media is not manipulating potential "constituents" and more or less similarly to Russia, I feel afraid for you. Because moms (the majority of them) don't get worried about the "Juul" until they actually FIND OUT ABOUT it, and trust me, it's not by digging through their teens backpacks it's by the kind of illegitimate puff pieces about "Juuling" which led to the kind of hysterical "you SHOULD be worried," by the media. The "crisis" was not created by the teens, let me put it that way.
There certainly may be a few key constituents left playing hardball and doing some lobbying (and they ALWAYS do it on both sides of the fence ALWAYS) but for the vast majority of voters it is about instilling the right kind of FEAR into the right kind of people, so they will vote and agree with the "right kind of thing."
Our free press began to truly die probably long before Nixon, but the day he got impeached, it was pretty much over. Including the rabid, intense directions to oh, not get news anywhere except for NPR or CNN, because then you, as a person, are engaging in anti-democratic experiences, not to mention being a kook, a liar, and many other epithets.
When journalistic head figures like Anderson Cooper and his "front hole," which is the latest "best PC way" to refer to a person's genitals because it "does not discriminate" against anyone makes an utterance, I'm not very inclined to trust that utterance at all, because frankly, a media governed and funded by the GOVERNMENT (and I'm sorry, you just can't argue that NPR is not exactly that) is not a free press. There is no free speech, and what little free speech is left is dismissed entirely by calling it "conspiracy" media, and well, it does have its disadvantages too.
But, I personally feel that media possessing the kind of power that CNN does is equally if not worse than Russian media. It's just as much selective facts, it's just as much "rhetoric" and it's just as frightening.
If you are funded and paid to report on news by interested parties, it's fundamentally no longer free speech even if the person engaging in the activity may not realize that fact. It is no different, and entirely equal to, a vaper giving a somewhat slanted review when given a piece of gear to review, because they want to continue "reviewing" products and they won't get free stuff if they give an unfavorable review.
Everyone can see this inherent bias in vaping, it is equally present in the media. Whoever owns the journalist controls the journalist, who then "reports" the news, generating the kind of wide, outspread outcry about vaping, and feeding the public's outrage about anything, including "vaping."
I had a long argument with my kid over this one, as he felt that Anderson Cooper's political biases should be included in his journalism. This is post-post modernism. Post modernism was really looking at how a person's inherent biases, cultural situation and whatnot impacted their body of work. Post-post modernism holds true that people should EMBRACER their values, notions and cultural space and treat them as important as fact.
The kid got really upset when I indicated that I felt it was quite reasonable for AC to do puff pieces and work with his biases, but treating different political candidates differently based on his biases was NOT acceptable and should NOT have been allowed. He kind of agreed in the end but it took me an hour or more to explain. It really disturbs me that kids are being taught this stuff and that my kid didn't know the term "muckraking." It really did.
If we ignore the good in our past while focusing on the worst and a victim culture, I really despair. I'm totally fine with my kid learning about slavery but I'd also like him to learn about how Nazism got its start, and the tools of mass propaganda that are being used, and used heavily today.
Pretty soon, if it continues, there will be no one left to "wake up."
The number one thing I actually like about Trump (although there are other things) is that he is authentic, or at least as much as possible given his own biases. That twitter feed that is rambling, sometimes contradictory, and often "offensive" to certain groups is who he is. I rather doubt at this point he is going to change that for ANYBODY.
I should stop.
Anna
Scares and desires of constituents are for the most part being "manufactured" by the media controlled by politicians (all sides). If you do not believe that, just compare the "debates" in the last presidential ELECTION. There was more interest, breathless commentary about freaking EITHER side of the PRIMARIES than the "debate" offered to the libertarian party. No one was interested, because no one was informed they SHOULD be interested, nor was it covered in such a way or presented in such a way as to GENERATE any interest.
If you think the media is not manipulating potential "constituents" and more or less similarly to Russia, I feel afraid for you. Because moms (the majority of them) don't get worried about the "Juul" until they actually FIND OUT ABOUT it, and trust me, it's not by digging through their teens backpacks it's by the kind of illegitimate puff pieces about "Juuling" which led to the kind of hysterical "you SHOULD be worried," by the media. The "crisis" was not created by the teens, let me put it that way.
There certainly may be a few key constituents left playing hardball and doing some lobbying (and they ALWAYS do it on both sides of the fence ALWAYS) but for the vast majority of voters it is about instilling the right kind of FEAR into the right kind of people, so they will vote and agree with the "right kind of thing."
Our free press began to truly die probably long before Nixon, but the day he got impeached, it was pretty much over. Including the rabid, intense directions to oh, not get news anywhere except for NPR or CNN, because then you, as a person, are engaging in anti-democratic experiences, not to mention being a kook, a liar, and many other epithets.
When journalistic head figures like Anderson Cooper and his "front hole," which is the latest "best PC way" to refer to a person's genitals because it "does not discriminate" against anyone makes an utterance, I'm not very inclined to trust that utterance at all, because frankly, a media governed and funded by the GOVERNMENT (and I'm sorry, you just can't argue that NPR is not exactly that) is not a free press. There is no free speech, and what little free speech is left is dismissed entirely by calling it "conspiracy" media, and well, it does have its disadvantages too.
But, I personally feel that media possessing the kind of power that CNN does is equally if not worse than Russian media. It's just as much selective facts, it's just as much "rhetoric" and it's just as frightening.
If you are funded and paid to report on news by interested parties, it's fundamentally no longer free speech even if the person engaging in the activity may not realize that fact. It is no different, and entirely equal to, a vaper giving a somewhat slanted review when given a piece of gear to review, because they want to continue "reviewing" products and they won't get free stuff if they give an unfavorable review.
Everyone can see this inherent bias in vaping, it is equally present in the media. Whoever owns the journalist controls the journalist, who then "reports" the news, generating the kind of wide, outspread outcry about vaping, and feeding the public's outrage about anything, including "vaping."
I had a long argument with my kid over this one, as he felt that Anderson Cooper's political biases should be included in his journalism. This is post-post modernism. Post modernism was really looking at how a person's inherent biases, cultural situation and whatnot impacted their body of work. Post-post modernism holds true that people should EMBRACER their values, notions and cultural space and treat them as important as fact.
The kid got really upset when I indicated that I felt it was quite reasonable for AC to do puff pieces and work with his biases, but treating different political candidates differently based on his biases was NOT acceptable and should NOT have been allowed. He kind of agreed in the end but it took me an hour or more to explain. It really disturbs me that kids are being taught this stuff and that my kid didn't know the term "muckraking." It really did.
If we ignore the good in our past while focusing on the worst and a victim culture, I really despair. I'm totally fine with my kid learning about slavery but I'd also like him to learn about how Nazism got its start, and the tools of mass propaganda that are being used, and used heavily today.
Pretty soon, if it continues, there will be no one left to "wake up."
The number one thing I actually like about Trump (although there are other things) is that he is authentic, or at least as much as possible given his own biases. That twitter feed that is rambling, sometimes contradictory, and often "offensive" to certain groups is who he is. I rather doubt at this point he is going to change that for ANYBODY.
I should stop.
Anna
Great video, DP.
I and others have been saying that for a long time. It's obvious that vaping is taking money out of the pockets of state governments. They aren't worried about health (or the children). They are worried about their addiction to tax payments. They need a new fix to replace dwindling tobacco tax payments. I wonder what that will be if they stomp out vaping. Will vapers start smoking again?
I have a lifetime supply of vape hardware and DIY supplies. I guess I need to order a couple more liters of Nic, though. I'm down to less than a liter.
ETA: I ordered another liter of Nic from MyFreedomSmokes this morning for $40 after Googling a 20% off coupon.
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Those ramblings on Twitter are not the real Donald Trump. They are carefully constructed messages to a certain demographic in America who admire his circus, and the personality we see is his stage persona. Did you notice that when Barack Obama was on the campaign trail he spoke with a slight accent reminiscent of Martin Luther King? That is a persona, and Trump uses one too. Filipino president Rodrigo Duterte uses the same technique of sounding ordinary and saying rude things to sound anti-establishment, and sometimes I wonder to what degree Trump and Duterte take cues from each other.
IDK, but I do know Obama was an excellent hypnotist. As was Martin Luther King. I don't look at this as necessarily a bad thing, but I will say that yes, Obama had the magic oratory, anyway.
He actually was probably one of the most private public personas I've even come across, especially for a president. I mean, the few times I saw his public façade crack, it was during the end of the "Obamacare" speeches when he was seriously fearful that his "legacy" was that he was just gonna be the first black president, not ushering in a "new era of healthcare" which, oh my he certainly did, the HIGHEST costing healthcare that was not remotely egalitarian in any way.
That, and when he got his underwear in a wad about his Supreme Justice Appointee being ignored. It wasn't like the first time Congress even did that and like, OF COURSE they were going to do that, but he was just that little bit too unhappy.
I kind of enjoyed those moments, the ones that reveal that being in politics is sort of like living in Judy Blume novel where they just turn into these little adolescents jabbing at each other.
My favorite president was "W". And by that I mean that all the publicity stunts and whatnot they made him do like the Codpiece after 9-11, he KNEW. He always had this perpetual look on his face of "WHY??" and even though some folks considered Cheyney the root of all evil, I think it was kind of smart of the "Great H" to hook him up with Cheyney because otherwise, "W" would at some point have never come back from "vacations" at the ranch, for reals.
His look during the inauguration kind of said it all if you ask me, "I'm just here because I have to be, I can't wait to get back to the ranch."
I genuinely think he wasn't frozen in fear as he was reading to those kids after 9-11 (I ALSO think it was smart to not jump up and yell, "OMG we're all going to die" at 5 year olds) but I do think he was musing a bit on the fact that it was now a time of "war." And that "no sitting president has EVER not been re-elected after a time of war, no one's going to beat me and I was REALLY hoping for 4 years, not 8.
Anna
He actually was probably one of the most private public personas I've even come across, especially for a president. I mean, the few times I saw his public façade crack, it was during the end of the "Obamacare" speeches when he was seriously fearful that his "legacy" was that he was just gonna be the first black president, not ushering in a "new era of healthcare" which, oh my he certainly did, the HIGHEST costing healthcare that was not remotely egalitarian in any way.
That, and when he got his underwear in a wad about his Supreme Justice Appointee being ignored. It wasn't like the first time Congress even did that and like, OF COURSE they were going to do that, but he was just that little bit too unhappy.
I kind of enjoyed those moments, the ones that reveal that being in politics is sort of like living in Judy Blume novel where they just turn into these little adolescents jabbing at each other.
My favorite president was "W". And by that I mean that all the publicity stunts and whatnot they made him do like the Codpiece after 9-11, he KNEW. He always had this perpetual look on his face of "WHY??" and even though some folks considered Cheyney the root of all evil, I think it was kind of smart of the "Great H" to hook him up with Cheyney because otherwise, "W" would at some point have never come back from "vacations" at the ranch, for reals.
His look during the inauguration kind of said it all if you ask me, "I'm just here because I have to be, I can't wait to get back to the ranch."
I genuinely think he wasn't frozen in fear as he was reading to those kids after 9-11 (I ALSO think it was smart to not jump up and yell, "OMG we're all going to die" at 5 year olds) but I do think he was musing a bit on the fact that it was now a time of "war." And that "no sitting president has EVER not been re-elected after a time of war, no one's going to beat me and I was REALLY hoping for 4 years, not 8.
Anna
I don't trust the DOJ anymore. They're as crooked as the IRS. They indict someone and I greet it with major skepticism.
It's all politics designed to get one or the other party back into action. Run the bum out and install one of their own bums.
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The DOJ was one of the few governmental agencies I had at least some faith in. That fell apart when Holder was appointed and it hasn't got better since.
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