There's this thread: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/5618-if-they-banned-ecigs-would-you-stockpile.html
Or are you talking about a black market type thing?
FDA issues notice of intent to propose "deeming" regulation by April of 2013 for e-cigarettes and other tobacco products
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There's this thread: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/5618-if-they-banned-ecigs-would-you-stockpile.html
Or are you talking about a black market type thing?
Because since Day 1, one of the false accusations we have been fighting is "Public health experts expressed concern that electronic cigarettes could increase nicotine addiction and tobacco use in young people."
FDA and Public Health Experts Warn About Electronic Cigarettes
In the media, these claims have been amplified, with the spokesperson usually a Public Health official or a doctor who has probably never seen a real e-cigarette in his life, or ever talked to a smoker who tried the recommended products and treatments only to fail over and over and over again.
A "concern" that they "might be" grew into declarations:
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The logic goes that fruit flavored (or other pleasant-flavored) liquids will make kids want to try out e-cigarettes, and then they will be addicted to nicotine, and then want more nicotine so they will switch to smoking. There is not a shred of evidence that any of these things have happened. But these accusations appear in almost every news story we see.
So please, please, don't call it something that might make a young child think you were being literal and try to drink it. You wouldn't call anything else that is poisonous by a name like "juice" or "ice cream" or "candy" that might make little ones think "I want some too."
"They even call it 'juice'," could be something that the ANTZ (Anti-nicotine and tobacco zealots) add to their arsenal of lies against ecigs.
Oh! I get it now. Thanks! Luckily I never talk to children. I only discuss ecigs on the forums or with adults irl.
I can't afford to stock pile, and even if I could I'd eventually run out. Yeah, black market, or something, anything. Or maybe it's best to not worry till the time comes? idk what to do to be honest...
I would also add to Elaine's great points that "juice" sounds like very strange slang to non-users, so it could bring to mind illicit drug or alcohol use, ie. "get juiced up." (Same reason I don't like people using "take a hit" and nicotine "buzz" in public discussions.) Additionally, "tobacco juice" is the stuff tobacco chew users spit into cups and sometimes on to sidewalks - another negative connotation for non-users to associate with e-cigarettes.
"What about the children?" has been a red herring in many arguments on different topics, it's designed to appeal to stupid people's emotions. The fact is, young people view these as something older people use to quit smoking. They're not 'cool' and unfortunately young people are still attracted to real cigarettes. But like the THR anti-lie blog posts says, logical, rational, truthful arguments consisting of facts is not the approach to use when dealing with antivaping psychotics. If truth and facts were taken into account, we wouldn't be having this discussion right now. I'm sure this is all about money in the form of cigarette taxes and Pharma stop smoking aids that don't work. The byline in the FDA's header that they exist to protect the public health is laughable. That's why I support CASAA - they know how to deal with the lunatics. Mass lame-stream media is also corporately owned and thus against vaping, so public info and public support is not there for us. We need to mobilize with CASAA and create a team that will get the job done.
"You better know it"...
The "I cant afford to stockpile" statement is a big problem....
Worrying about it when it happens, is a tad bit too late I'm afraid..
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The "intellectual progressives" believe they know what is best
and they will decide what will and will not be allowed.
Anything that is not politically sanctioned should be forbidden...
not because of the harm to the individual but enjoyment without
government sanction is considered wrong.
and they will decide what will and will not be allowed.
Anything that is not politically sanctioned should be forbidden...
not because of the harm to the individual but enjoyment without
government sanction is considered wrong.
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I think Vocalek summed part of my views quit well below…
Aside from the Potential Hazard of accidental poisoning by calling e-Liquids “Juice”, it doesn’t seem to convey the concept to people Exactly what an e-Liquid / e-Cigarette is to me.
And that is a Harm Reduction Device that has given me the ability to Stop Smoking and Improve my Overall Health.
BTW – I have No Problem using the term “e-Cigarette”.
Like was said in another reply. Tax money......but not only just tax money but jobs. Think about something, and I hate saying this, too. BT actually employs a LOT of people, from the tobacco farms, the the manufacturing plants, to the distributors, to the stores selling them. Then on the flip side BP employs a lot of people dealing with the downsides of smoking. Think about what would happen if everyone stopped smoking and just went to vapping. You would be putting a lot of people out of work. It doesn't take as much to create our products compared to cigs, and BP would not have to make as many NRTs or other items. So ironically by making it a *sin* but not making it against the law they are making big revenue and keeping jobs.
Ohhhhh Agree 100%...Whats REALLY sad is it may put a serious dent in the revenue generated by hospitals, doctors, hospice care,oncology, and such. To many Jobs lost, major upset to the economy.
Ahhh yes "Major Upset/Unbalance " to the economy....Love your Country-Hate your Government...
The "intellectual progressives" believe they know what is best
and they will decide what will and will not be allowed.
Anything that is not politically sanctioned should be forbidden...
not because of the harm to the individual but enjoyment without
government sanction is considered wrong.
Funny that 'they' have become what they despised most. That which sits in judgment of societal sins and promotes selflessness over self-fulfillment.
Maybe it is about this at all.
Not about Right or Wrong. Or Good versus Evil.
Maybe it is just about Money. Or should I say. Who gets the Money and what form it comes in.
Should I dare say, what I feel???
I'm thinking a good old fashioned revolution is in order. How much can the American people put up with from our government?
We have politicians who give themselves raises at the same time making sure they have healthcare for free for the rest of their lives,
not to mention a fat pension.
Nobody can agree on anything, thus nothing gets done...My God I love my country, even with all its faults but to be honest I think with our deficit cliff, and everyhting else that is taking a nose dive, its time for a major house cleaning...of 1776 kind.
That’s kinda the Sum and Substance of it.
The fine art of Compromise is a Dying (Dead) Breed.
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